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Created on : Friday, November 04, 2005, 02:51:01 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/10/05) Lies, deceit, sex and scandal. Dr. Phil speaks with husbands and wives who've been caught cheating — and are paying the price. Albert and Camille have been married 11 years, but she hasn't been able to trust him since his affair three years ago. Albert admits to cheating, and says he would do it again if he knew he could get away with a "freebie!" Camille is convinced he's still involved with other women, but Albert says he's not cheating. Then, Danielle and Chris were high school sweethearts, but less than three months after getting married, Danielle found herself in the arms of another man. Numerous affairs later, Danielle is pregnant with another man's child. Can these marriages survive this much betrayal?  Join the discussion.

 

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November 10, 2005, 3:29 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I have been with my kids father for 10 years and I know that He had cheated on me 2 times caught one time I know hee cheated the first time I was preg 2 weeks before my e.d.d. he left me living in a motel with some friends of his for another woman that he informed me he had been sleeping with her about 3 months then while preg with our second child i went in for my 27 week check up and found out that I had an std which he denies he had cheated yet again.then past time i was living 150 miles away while i went to school we were having problems but I believed we were togther then found out that the reason he would not move us back down here when i finished school was because he was having another woman living with him then i moved back down closer for the kids to b able to see thier father more he informed me that he wanted to work on his family yet againso he moved back in with us he informed me his girlfriend was being abused so being from an abusive relationship myself i allowed her to move into only for them to go to a motel then i caught them kissing on my couch where my children could have walked in too see he moved out shortly later now he is home yet again i want to trust him so much i love him i love our family but i feel so ugly inside i cry 24/7 and i dont know what to do

  

Yes You Do That Is Why You Are Crying. 

  

Kick his ass to the curb. 

  

You don't love him, Hell you don't love yourself. 

  

Take Your Power Back. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:32 pm PST

Finding Yourself

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I have been dating my boyfriend for 4 years and we are currently both in college.  We attend seperate schools which are 7 hours apart.  Therefore we dont see eachother all that much.  When we are home and physically togehter thigns are wonderful.  But when we are away at school he lies, cheats, and decieves me.  It has gotten to the point where I just am tired of questioning him and alwasy feeling like hes up to somehting.  Last year was his first year away and since we are so young (21) and neither of us is ready to be 100% seroius it was left that the relationship would be open but we werent supposed to get consistent with anyone else and if we did we were supposed to break it off with one another.  Needless to say he started seeing someone behind my back for over 5 months.  I found out about her from her and then he admitted everything.  He then ended things wiht her in hopes that we would work things out.  He has made it clear to her that she is more for convienience and I am the one he is in love with but she is so insecure she will take whatever she can get wtih him.  This happened 2 or 3 times.  We always get back together and then its stressful becuase there is no trust and then I find out he is lying again. This time he says really he is changed and he would never wawnt to hurt me again.  

He makes me feel like I am the center of his world.  He alwasy tells me how much he loves me and we plan a future together.  But I dont want a future with a liar and Im so young I dont want to waste time. I just dont knwo if this is something that he will grow out of because he is immature or if this is one of those cases where I sound like an abused vicitim making excuses.   

College123, you are experienceing what so many college students experience. You and your boyfriend are both young, and meeting alot of new people while trying to maintain a long distance relationship. When you throw cheating in the mix, it might look like there is no hope. Your bf might actually love you and want to stay with you. However, this is unfair to you if he continues seeing other girls. Maybe he will grow out of it. Ultimately the decision is yours. Tell him what you need in order to be happy in your relationship. If you want him to be exclusive, ask him if he can be exclusive. If he says yes and you think he is sincere, move forward with him. Look at the possibility of counseling to sort through your hurt and anger. If you don't believe he can be exclusive, maybe you could change your relationship. Either break it off or become less exclusive, depending on what you feel is right. Just so you know my boyfriend and I are working through infidelity in our relationship. It is possible, but its not easy. If you want to talk to me about my experiences or tell me more about yours, just email me. Good Luck!  

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:34 pm PST

Chris & Danielle

I watched the show today. I would like to know what Danielle is going to do after the baby is born? Is she going to let the father of the baby be in it's life? And I would like to know how Chris will react to that? Does the babies dad know she is  having his baby? If so Danielle not only is messing up her family but what about the guys family!!!! Is anyone else thinking this?? I would like to have a follow up show!!!!
 
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November 10, 2005, 3:34 pm PST

Problems everywhere!

  

     To all you people who are having problems in your marriage,  the only way to make it work is to do what it takes TO BECOME BEST FRIENDS!   Would you desrespect your best friend or talk to them like they are stupid or embarass them etc...   NO!    

    So turn the TV off have a drink together go for a walk together talk about everything that comes to mind share secrets date each other compliment each other be thankful for what the other is doing for you,  hold each other be funny be helpful.  I'm sure you can come up with more yourselves.   

    Just dont be  too surprised if it doesnt all lead to awesome feelings and awesome sex!   What more would you want in life than to feel happy?  So work at it!  Most of all let your kids see you laugh and hug!    

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:37 pm PST

GO!!!

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I found out 6 months ago that my husband had been cheating on me.  We are married over 30 years.  He became friendly with a woman and after a long time they began an affair which has lasted over 3 years.    He ended it when I found out, and since then he has done everything to make amends.  However there are so many questions that I have, and he is getting very tired of answering them, he says it is time to move on.  I just do not believe that he has told me the whole truth and while I do not think he is seeing her at the moment , i think in time they may meet and it will start all over  We live so near to each other.  I keep wanting to go and ask her her side of the story and then I stop myself.  What do others think, should I go and ask her or should I leave it.  I am so upset and I feel so betrayed by my husband and I want to move on and forgive but I am stuck.  I can think of nothing else but his betrayal of me and my family. H e swears it is all over but how do I know. 

What experiences do other wives have about talking to the "Other Woman" 

 -----You know what,  until you know EVERYTHING about what went on and how everything happen from the beginning  with your husband and that woman, you will never have a peaceful night of sleep! My partner cheated on me for 3 months and he end it before i found out and just 5 days later after he end it,  i found out!! he didn't tell me everything and like your husband he was getting tired of answering my questions, so i let it go but everyday, every single second of the day all i can think about was 'what happened?' , 'how did it happened?'  it killed me to think about stuff like that and finally 4 months later i called her and confronted her and she told me everything and even sent me e-mails that he sent her!!!  Now i know everything and you know what i still think about it but it's not that bad and i think that knowing what happened from her point of view helped a lot. so yes i think you should go and get her side of the story and make her tell you what happened and how it happened, but don't be confrontational with her just let her know that you have some questions that needs to be answered! Believe me it will kill you slowly and you will regret it if you never go and find out what happened and what that woman has to say. Good luck to you!!!
 
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November 10, 2005, 3:37 pm PST

Don't give up

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Watching the show today I felt compelled to share my story - the first time I posted on this site. 

  

My family is a victim of infidelity. I caught my wife involved in an affair back in 1997 and it tore my insides apart, I felt like I was going to die. She claimed to still love me, but felt that we needed time apart to figure out what we wanted to do. In the meantime she continued to talk to and see her 'boyfriend". We were married 10 years at that time with three young children and a succesful business that we both worked in. I had always been a good child growing up, was the smartest in my class, did not smoke, do drugs and only an occassional drink. I was respectful of my parents and others. I met my wife in 1986 and she was my first love, I had remained a virgin waiting for my wife. We were married in 1987 and shared a very exciting passionate relationship. We did have ups and downs, but minor things and we had lots of great and wonderful times. 

  

After the affair, nothing was the same - she seemed focused on affairs, those other people were in, or might be in. I really don't know any longer if she was faithful to me up until I caught her, or if she was faithful to me after - i just don't know any more. Shortly after, perhaps due to stree - I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, and high cholesterol. Me and my kids rode a roller coaster with that woman for most of the last 8 years. She left me a total of 3 times, the last time in December of 2000 and she often left the kids to live with me because I believe she wanted her "freedom" to be with other men. I was caught in it and were the kids. It ended up putting me in the mental health section of the local hospital after two suicide attempts. I am still in counselling today and on anti-depressants. I have been separated from her since Dec 2000, but the roller coaster has run until only recently. I have finally gotten enough strength to admit that no matter how much I may love her (and I do) and no matter how much she may love me - that she is very bad for me and for the childrenn and I cannot be with her. I fight this every day, because inside I would still give anything to be happy with her and the kids the way things were before all of this happened. I see her often the way that I want to see her, and not the way that she actually is!! 

  

Through out all of this - I spent a month in hospital for my depression, had a couple incidences with the police, lost my business with over $1.3 million in assets, lost my job, have had virtually no income in the last 3 + years, filed for bankruptcy, had my children kept away from me even though I was their pimary care giver, now paying child support when I can't afford to, watched my oldest son quit school at age 14, and not get a job - he has had suicide attempts, he has suffered greatly. In addition during this time period, my father and grandmother both died and I was extremely close to both of them. 

  

What keeps me going today??  Some days I know - my kids - number 1, I don't want to leave them behind thinking I don't care about them. Other days, when I struggle - I don't know. Can' find the right job, don't have any money, not succesful after a life filled with success, my health is poor. 

  

I just hope that the good days outnumber the not so good days and that I don't have many not so good days back to back. 

  

My kids are everything to me - they need me, and I need them. God, do I need them!! 

  

I read your post and felt compelled to respond as I sensed the pain behind your words. I too was cheated on and terribly wronged as were my 2 children. Yes, it seriousl;y affected them and me also. No, life will never be the same. But, truthfully, life never does stay the same. I understand that you were a "good boy" as I was always a "good girl". I was taught that the guys in the white hats always win. Not true. Life isn't fair. Life is hard. I look back on the "good years" and am grateful for them. I often wonder why things couldn't have worked out differently. I have come to the conclusion that some people just have no conscience and are emotionally detached from thier families without necessarily being obvious about it. If you allow yourself to get some enjoyment from the small things in life and to enjoy your children and participate in their lives fully, you will tend to not focus on your pain as much as you are now. I also found that volunteering helped alot. Helping others took my mind off my own hurts many times. Yes, I am still lonely and yes I am still angry, but, I know there's nothing I can do about it. The damage has been done. It can't be undone. I refuse to create more damage than their father already has. You are the one that you rchildren need. They need you to rely on and look up to. You can't do that when you're an inpatient. Life and health is a lot about an optomistic outlook. I know it doesn't solve all our problems, but it does help. Try to look forward, not back. Your children need you to not desert them, either physically or emotionally. I will pray for you and your children. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:39 pm PST

Money and excuses

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If you were talking in response to me.  Thanks.  I have started putting money aside.  Right now I don't have enough nor am I in a position to go.  We are talking of moving again, this time to the midwest (job related) which would make it less expensive for me to live and be closer to my family (still several hundred miles, but not over a thousand anymore).  I figure if things don't change soon, I'm going to have to get out, but I do need to be prepared.  I'm beginning to get things going to start doing that, but it is a slow process.  I know my husband loves me, of that I have no doubt, it's just that I also know he doesn't understand love and respect as it should be.  His mother cheated on his father (who divorced her), but he (my husband) obviously didn't learn anything from it.  All I can ask for is prayers that I can turn his life around (I've made a lot of progress on other fronts with him) and get him to realize how much he hurts me and how much he will be hurting the children as they get older if he doesn't change.
One reason it was so easy for me to leave was my savings I had aquired.  I in no way need him financially, I can support myself and my child without any help.  It was a realief and truly made the decison so much "easier".

My now ex grew up in a household where his dad cheated around on his mom regularly.  I let him use this as an excuse for a while, but in reality I say "you are 36 years old you know better than that!".  I have friends who grew up in abusive households and they do not abuse their partners or children etc.  To me the way they grew up is an excuse, they should instead  be using it as a model of how not to treat someone they are with.  "He doesn't understand love and respect as it should be" - he understands from growing up what they ARE NOT!  From this statement I would gatehr he disagrees with his mother's actions so why would he do them to someone else?

You cannot change anyone, but people can change themselves.  He has to want to change himself and this take a good long hard look in the mirror and some bitter taste of reality to accept personal responsiblity.  You can support him through this period but you will never be able to change him, unfortunately that is all up to him.
 
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November 10, 2005, 3:40 pm PST

Ironic thing

I have a humorous and ironic tale about infidelity! 

  

Years ago when I was married to my first husband he cheated on me.  I had gone to a friend's dinner party and our roommate had a huge party.  I found the evidence (used condom) on the floor next to our bed.  At first he said the guys were just playing around blowing up the condoms (I didn't get close enough to it to examine it), but then when we were lying in bed he told me he had slept with someone in our bed during the party.  I became so livid I made him throw the bed away and buy me a new one.  He told me details about the encounter to try and make me feel better, things in extreme detail about her sexual skills that put her in a very bad light.  So the next day I went in to work and a dozen red roses showed up.  A lady I worked with asked what they were for.  I told her the whole story, going into the extreme detail about the sexual encounter as my husband had told it, how this girl wasn't very skilled and it was the worst sex of his life, etc etc. 

  

I kept asking him who it was (I really did want to know), but he wouldn't tell me. 

  

Several months later while we were living in a different place, he told me who it was.  Come to find out it was that coworker of mine who I had spilled the beans to, without realizing that she was the one I was talking about.  I started laughing really really hard.  He asked me what was so funny.  I told him, "Hey, remember the day after that party where you cheated on me?  Well, when I went to work the next day I told S all about the gory details!"  By this time I'm laughing so hard...but my husband was not so amused.  He was completely embarrassed and mortified. 

  

In short, I got my *revenge* without even realizing it!  

  

This was the first but not the last time he did this to me.  I'm not sure why people want to be married to someone they are planning on cheating on anyway (stability, I suppose).  If you want to play the field, be single for cripes sake! 

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:41 pm PST

Infidelity Among the Military

My husband and I have been married for 7 years and 5 of those years he has been in the military.  Because of the military we haven't spent a full year together since he enlisted.  We have 2 kids together ages 5 and 1.  He was deployed when I was about 6 months pregnant with my last child and he came back after she was about 7 months old.  He came back from that deployment and a few months later he was sent to Iraq for another year.  I recently (last week) found out that he had an affair during his last deployment.  Though he has yet to admit it, I know that my husband must take ownership of what he did.  I am so confused.  I have good self-esteem and I love myself.  That part of me tells me that I must end this marriage, but the mother part of me tells me that I need to work things out.  I've spoken to several people and most all of them say that all men cheat and I should just work things out because he is the father of my children.  Is this so?  Am I just going to find myself in the same situation if I leave and eventually do find someone else?   

  

  

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:41 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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 Zero tolerance! You don't have children and you are still young enough to go forward and make a life for yourself. Dump him. Period. End-of-story. In this day and age, can a woman AFFORD to risk her health with a cheater??? I say NO, absolutely not. And that's exactly what you are doing if you stay married to a man who cheats. In this day and age with all the sexually transmitted diseases going around -- how could you ever, ever be sure of him? This guy is a dog. You deserve much better. Dump him.

  

Amen! 

 
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