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Created on : Friday, November 04, 2005, 02:51:01 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/10/05) Lies, deceit, sex and scandal. Dr. Phil speaks with husbands and wives who've been caught cheating — and are paying the price. Albert and Camille have been married 11 years, but she hasn't been able to trust him since his affair three years ago. Albert admits to cheating, and says he would do it again if he knew he could get away with a "freebie!" Camille is convinced he's still involved with other women, but Albert says he's not cheating. Then, Danielle and Chris were high school sweethearts, but less than three months after getting married, Danielle found herself in the arms of another man. Numerous affairs later, Danielle is pregnant with another man's child. Can these marriages survive this much betrayal?  Join the discussion.

 

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November 10, 2005, 7:59 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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  I know how confused you feel. My husband of 28 years cheated on me. I am still hurting but I find myself blaming the other woman. The difference is...the other woman was his therapist. He wasn't going there for marriage counselling. It was for help he needed for something that had nothing to do with our marriage.  I've been living with this pain and anguish for years and it just won't go away. That's why I snarl when someone recommends therapy. Some of them should go over their manual and read about ethics. 

 If a licensed caregiver - doctor, nurse, therapist, whatever the case maybe - crosses the line and has an affair with a client then that person should be reported to the state and have their license revoked and their business shut down.
 
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November 10, 2005, 8:00 pm PST

I guess this is directing at me

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  To the person who keeps finding evidence that your husband keeps contacting "friends" behind your back,  PLEASE take a serious look at whether you want to stay in this marriage before you have kids.  I caught my husband playing around with some one on the web before we had kids and forgave him.  Then after we had children I caught him having an affair with an old friend.  Believe me, if you think wrestling with what he is doing to you and what you should do is tough, think of how much tougher it will be if you also have to consider what is best for the chilren that are also his.

We already have children.  I had 2 children from a previous marriage and we now have one together.  His first child. 

  

Once he realized I had checked his email and saw what he was up to I guess he figured it woud look suspect if he changed his password so he hasn't.  But I still go in there from time to time it's what I realize is that if he gets an email from one of these friends, he replies to it and deletes any evidence of it immediately.  Or he's calling them on his breaks at work.  It's really frustrating.  I don't know that I believe he's sleeping with them because none of them live in our town or state for that matter.  But I've read in his emails where he made plans to meet them when they come to town or nearby.  The fact that he will make these plans and not inform me bothers me. 

  

Then he lies about the nature of the relationships with certain ppl.  He described one person as being his "best friend".  At first I believed it.  She lived 2 doors down with her husband and thought it was innocent although suspicious because she lived 2 doors down and she never came to our home nor did we go to hers.  They work together and we went to a Xmas party at their job once and we were seated with her and her husband.  He told me they were just friends.  Her husband's expression told a very different story.  I watched his expression each time my husband said something and he looked like he wanted to kill him.  Clearly there was more going on here.  Then one day I was on the computer and discovered a picture of him and her.  A pic taken at a photo studio.  Not the kind of pic or pose "friends" take.  This was a "we are a couple pic".  I confronted him about it and he lied again.  It's funny; I can always tell when he's lying or told a lie because he tries to atone for it via an expensive gift.  Very transparent. 

  

I really wonder if he thinks our marriage will last with this kind of BS between us. *smh* 

 
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November 10, 2005, 8:07 pm PST

Honesty is only in the eyes of the beholder

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Reading the posts have made me really think.  Just last weekend I got so mad at my husband because he plays golf  ALOT and I feel ignored.  I am expecting our first child and I know that our alone time is on the downward spiral. 

My husband is as honest as can be, if he is going to be late coming home from work he calls, when he goes out with friends he is always where he says he is going to be,  he has a long commute everyday, so he always emails me from work so I know he got there safely. 

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about being a "golf widow" when I see what some of you ladies have to live with. 

That is what I used to think.  My husband always called me when he was going to be "late".  Turns out he was with her instead.  Boy was I stupid.  Not saying you are and he is, but just to let you know.  Several of my husbands' "golf" dates were with her as well.  Not only that, but he always told me that the boss was paying, so I wouldn' bother to look for expenses.  He had his own checking account and credit card.
 

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November 10, 2005, 8:09 pm PST

Convenience??

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I have been dating my boyfriend for 4 years and we are currently both in college.  We attend seperate schools which are 7 hours apart.  Therefore we dont see eachother all that much.  When we are home and physically togehter thigns are wonderful.  But when we are away at school he lies, cheats, and decieves me.  It has gotten to the point where I just am tired of questioning him and alwasy feeling like hes up to somehting.  Last year was his first year away and since we are so young (21) and neither of us is ready to be 100% seroius it was left that the relationship would be open but we werent supposed to get consistent with anyone else and if we did we were supposed to break it off with one another.  Needless to say he started seeing someone behind my back for over 5 months.  I found out about her from her and then he admitted everything.  He then ended things wiht her in hopes that we would work things out.  He has made it clear to her that she is more for convienience and I am the one he is in love with but she is so insecure she will take whatever she can get wtih him.  This happened 2 or 3 times.  We always get back together and then its stressful becuase there is no trust and then I find out he is lying again. This time he says really he is changed and he would never wawnt to hurt me again.  

He makes me feel like I am the center of his world.  He alwasy tells me how much he loves me and we plan a future together.  But I dont want a future with a liar and Im so young I dont want to waste time. I just dont knwo if this is something that he will grow out of because he is immature or if this is one of those cases where I sound like an abused vicitim making excuses.   

I am sorry 'honey', but truth be told, She is not the one who is convenient. You are the One who is convenient to him. He knows that he can do what he wants when you are not around, and it's convenient for him that you are still there waiting for him despite what he is doing. Break him loose; break yourself loose. College is a time for one to find out who they really are, a transition period, not only by getting an academic education, but by gaining life experiences through meeting a variety of people and participating in experiences you'll never again get to experience before entering the real world. Once you both are done with college and want to meet up again, you'll both be better prepared to know what it is you really want. My guess is you will have wised up a lot and not feel you short changed yourself of opportunities by keeping yourself tied to a guy that is still trying to work through his own immaturity. Best of wishes,
 
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November 10, 2005, 8:23 pm PST

Danielle the Cheater

I saw Danielle on Dr. Phil today.  All I can say is that she has one beautiful face.  That woman could surely seduce any man.  She said that she liked the attention.  Well, if I was in a room with her, she would definitely be getting all she could handle.  That is one sexy woman!!! 

 
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November 10, 2005, 8:25 pm PST

I was there once

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I'm hoping someone out there in email land can give me some helpful advice. I am a strong black woman who vowed that she would never take having her husband cheating on her and was really very impatient with women that I know that have stayed with her men after finding out that the had been cheated on. You know the saying that if you think your man is cheating on you then he is, well I think he is. There has been one phone number that keeps popping up on his cell phone, when I ask him about it he says, "it's just something to do with work" now keep in mind that my husband works in a very large hospital in a totally different department than this woman who is a cafeteria worker, he is a computer anaylsis. When confronted with my questions he tries to turn it around on me to make me feel like a heel for questioning his fidelity. He will even either hide his cell phone or totally clear all of the numbers off, but every now and then I can get a hold of it before he has a chance to take them off. He has even said to me " I was intentionally doing things to make me look guilty just to get a rise out of you to make you communicate". What a crock, needless to say I told him that he would have to come up with one better than that. Any comments of advice out there? I just want to catch him soo bad and so good that he can't lie his way out of  it. He also uses the excuse of going to one particular store usually after 10"clock at night and come home sometimes midnight, sometimes 1-1:30pm, with no proof that he's been to the store and expect me to believe it!! 

Desparate to find the truth and get divorce proceedings in motion. 

  

You could follow him to the "store" or like the other post said, call the number and see who answers. If he's intentionally doing odd things to get a rise out of you then he doesn't have your best interest at heart, it's a very passive/aggressive thing to do.  My ex husband use to get off work at 11 pm but not get home until 2 or 3 am, his excuse was always that he was talking to a male buddy of his. Come to find out, he was with the buddy but not just talking, if you get my meaning. He cheated with both men and women during our marriage. When I divorced him I felt like a million bucks, he was and is a loser! So, if you have doubts about your man do a little investigating yourself, unfortunately you'll probably find exactly what your worried about. Be safe and stay strong!
 

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November 10, 2005, 8:46 pm PST

Irony is a bitch...

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I have a humorous and ironic tale about infidelity! 

  

Years ago when I was married to my first husband he cheated on me.  I had gone to a friend's dinner party and our roommate had a huge party.  I found the evidence (used condom) on the floor next to our bed.  At first he said the guys were just playing around blowing up the condoms (I didn't get close enough to it to examine it), but then when we were lying in bed he told me he had slept with someone in our bed during the party.  I became so livid I made him throw the bed away and buy me a new one.  He told me details about the encounter to try and make me feel better, things in extreme detail about her sexual skills that put her in a very bad light.  So the next day I went in to work and a dozen red roses showed up.  A lady I worked with asked what they were for.  I told her the whole story, going into the extreme detail about the sexual encounter as my husband had told it, how this girl wasn't very skilled and it was the worst sex of his life, etc etc. 

  

I kept asking him who it was (I really did want to know), but he wouldn't tell me. 

  

Several months later while we were living in a different place, he told me who it was.  Come to find out it was that coworker of mine who I had spilled the beans to, without realizing that she was the one I was talking about.  I started laughing really really hard.  He asked me what was so funny.  I told him, "Hey, remember the day after that party where you cheated on me?  Well, when I went to work the next day I told S all about the gory details!"  By this time I'm laughing so hard...but my husband was not so amused.  He was completely embarrassed and mortified. 

  

In short, I got my *revenge* without even realizing it!  

  

This was the first but not the last time he did this to me.  I'm not sure why people want to be married to someone they are planning on cheating on anyway (stability, I suppose).  If you want to play the field, be single for cripes sake! 

Your post was so funny, I about peed my pants. I am envisioning your co-workers face everytime she had to work with you. 

  

I loved it!!! 

 
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November 10, 2005, 8:54 pm PST

Real men...

I was recently having a discussion with a male friend (Nick) and I was making the point that sex with someone other than your spouse is only an extreme way of many ways to cheat, starting with looking at porno mags, lusting over stars, going to stripclubs, fantasizing about co-workers, flirting heavily with other women and having sex with another woman. He said that couldnt be true because "all real guys" do most of those things and it's not infidelity.  

  

My husband is a sailor and spends more time away from home than at home due to his ship's schedual. Last night he called me at 2am because his friends were all in some sex shop buying videos and picking up fliers for clubs, and he saw it as an excellent oppertunity to call and say he loves me while he had a minute alone.  

  

Real men dont do most of those things, lustful little boys do. and maybe if it wasnt practically expected of men by their peers to wish they were sleeping with someone other than their wife, there wouldnt be so many cheaters in this world. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 8:55 pm PST

WONDING!!

Quote From: cheyenne05

 when  I found out my husband was spending hrs & hrs on the phone with a coworker & I couldnt get straight answers from him I called her..she got real smart & hateful, said "I had no right to call her-that I "crossed the line calling her" then she tried to have me arrested for harrassing her!!! the bitch had talked to my husband for hrs & hrs but that was ok...it's so heartbreaking what we go through...the calls have supposedly stopped but can we ever stop wondering??????????

You can always check your phone records and see who is calling who, don't for get the mobil number, they can even tell you how many minutes the call was !!!, 

  

  You did say a co-worker, why don't you visit your husband office and take him to lunch just to see  

what kind of office, and get a look at the co-worker. this will also give your husband a wake up call. 

  

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November 10, 2005, 9:00 pm PST

THANKS!!!!

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Unless Dr Phil et al has a problem with it, you're welcome to the tape I have (I always have to leave before its over so tape whatever is showing for the day, just tape over the prior days show) 

Post your email addy in your profile and I'll contact you through it to find out where to send it. 

That would be great, thank you so so so much!! I added my email to my profile, but it is   heartoftheoc@yahoo.com     Send me an e-mail with your address and I will send you a money order for the shipping and the cost of the tape, and my address as well. Thanks again!!! I appreciate it a lot!!!!
 
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