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Topic : 06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

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(Original Air Date: 11/16/05) Every parent believes his or her child is exceptional, but how do you know when you are pushing your children beyond their limits? Bridget is so determined to make her 9-year-old daughter the next LeAnn Rimes, she has had her singing every weekend for the last seven months, and she is constantly criticizing her performances and punishing her when she makes mistakes. The father of the biggest sister act in pop music weighs in. And, Julie is so obsessed with placing her daughters in hundreds of glitz beauty pageants, she has practically bankrupted her family. Her sister, Jamie, says she is forcing her 5-year-old to grow up too soon, and the pageants have torn their family apart. Talk about the show here.

 

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June 1, 2006, 1:24 pm PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

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Let me state that this is just my opinion. Attack it all you like. 

  

Why did these people go on the Dr. Phil show? From what I saw and have read here, they are convinced that what they're doing is right and nothing he said seemed to make any difference to them. Even the advice of the Simpson girls' father seemed to fall on deaf ears. 

  

Was this just a way to give their kids some free publicity? Looks that way to me.  

  

  

  

    I THINK YOU JUST HIT THE NAIL RIGHT  DEAD SQUARE ON THE HEAD! IT SEEMED TO BE MORE OF A PUBLICITY STUNT THAN TO TRY AND CHANGE THE PARENTS WAY OF THINKING. 

 
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June 1, 2006, 1:28 pm PDT

My Kid's A Star????????

 I am more dismayed than "blank"....there wasn't an "emote" for that, but there should be.  I am dismayed that the parents of these two little (and I stress little) girls were not even close to listening to the "experts'" nor you....It was especially evident in two places. One, the father who, after the discussion of  accolades as they come off the stage...my two brothers and a sister were all in the entertainment industry.  At 5-years-old, my sister was in her first Series.  When she went to interviews, it was always" you did your best and it was great!"  My sister and my brothers all went on interviews.  When they did a job, they got nothing, from my mom (or dad) but praise for the job they did.  Later, like the next day, IF my sister or my brothers wanted "feedback" mom would tell them what they "might want to do or work on" for the next time.  What has happend to childhood?  Isn't childhood lost, early enough in life, for parents to do this to their own children?  No 5-year-old "knows what they want"....their 5-years-old! No 9-year-old wants to hear how badly they did.  Be punished for NOT doing what the parent thinks they should do. NOR be told they can't go to a birthday party because their "booked for the weekend". These parents are doing nothing more than telling their children they are "not good enough". How very, very sad.
 
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June 1, 2006, 1:37 pm PDT

Obsessive Julie

"Julie is so obsessed with placing her daughters in hundreds of glitz beauty pageants, she has practically bankrupted her family. Her sister, Jamie, says she is forcing her 5-year-old to grow up too soon, and the pageants have torn their family apart"

Julie's lack of self-esteem is oozing from her. She has to use her children as props to make herself feel better. Without her children (child), she would have nothing to be proud of. To her, her children's success is building up her own. I can tell she probably was fat herself or got picked on growing up. She really pushes her daughters to be 'beautiful' because she probably didn't feel that way growing up. She might have envied other girls growing up like cheerleaders, Barbie look-a-likes etc. These children unfortunately don't know the meaning of true beauty. Their self worth is now measured on their looks. Once puberty hits, there could be a chance of weight gain (or even loss) but if its a gain I'm sure the mother won't have the mental capacity to understand that. Financial debt for pageantry is selfish, stupid, and she should probably have her kids taken away until she learns to put her family first. Let's even say the girls pitched fits and cried everyday to do them, if your going to ruin your family by continuing to enter them in pageants then you need to put your foot down and teach your children some disappointments. I guess things like saving for college aren't really important to this mother. Maybe she should put more money into a self esteem program, a workout schedule, & some financial counseling. THEN she might have some things to be proud of and take that weight off her children. Again, therapy recommended. Also, she should try to find girls in their 20's and 30's whose parents pushed them and see what troubles they ran into mentally. Pageantry is not a bad thing, but throwing away your family to mold a future trophy wife child IS a bad thing. I don't think any of those mothers are bad I think they have made some bad choices and lifestyles.......
 
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June 1, 2006, 1:38 pm PDT

Pushing your kids is Damaging!!

I came from a family of five siblings we showed   horses  every weekend at horse shows.  I know how it feels not to get any praise for a job well done!  Every night that we showed all we ever heard was every thing we did wrong even if we brought home the Blue ribbon for 1ST place!!!  We could never do anything right in our parents eyes.  Many a nghts we cried and felt like failures! It scars a child for life!  I cried when I watched that mother berate her child today!!  To this day our mom is a very lonely woman, we resent her for the damage they did to us as children.  Our dad died of cancer sevearl years ago and only on his death bed did we ever hear him tell us he loved us after we voiced it first. That woman reminded me so much of my mom it was unreal.  I agree with you Dr. Phil PLEASE focus on the good things. If You dont have anything good to say dont say anything at all!! 

 
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June 1, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

A Child's Point of View

I am 16 yrs old, and I have been singing all my life.  I love to sing, but when my daddy criticizes me I feel sooooooo bad about myself.  I could have done a beautiful job, I mean people would be crying in the audience, but my dad always put me down.  There was even a point where I refused to sing for anybody.  Coming from a child's point of view, we really need encouragement to help our self esteem levels.  My mother always encouraged me, and she would wait for the right time to tell me if I needed to do something differently.  Her encouragement helps me overcome my dad's criticism. I'm still dealing with my self esteem today.  But I talked to my daddy about the way he made me feel, and things are better now.  I still feel lousy about myself at times, but parents really need to think about what they do to their kids.  Just one time of bad criticism and not enough encouragement can damage them for years.
 
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June 1, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

me and my mom

well, when i watched the show i immediatly thought of me and my mom.  I have been singing for 12yrs. So i did start at 8 yrs old.  anyway.... i wanted to be famous when i was young, i would make my mother take me to all my singing classes, and to all the auditions i knew of.  I loved it. but i did have a little stage fright, and whenever i went to a family event i would HAVE to sing, and i hated it.  if i didn't sing my mom would punish me!  singing and whether i sang good or made a mistake was all that mattered.  i thought that performing in everything in my town and practicing for auditions was  what i wanted to do, but i was wrong.  All the pressure eventually drove me to become extremely depressed.  Im just saying from my experience, it may seem that singing is all that the child wants to do, but like dr. phil said, the child.... is a child, and singing should be fun, and serious to a certain extent.  just the least bit of critisism could turn the child off.  i know that these "stage moms" care a great deal for their children, but SOMETIMES it starts as the childs obbsession and then evolves to the parents obbsession.   i would say to just be there for your child and support them, but let them be a child as well.
 
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June 1, 2006, 1:52 pm PDT

RE: MY KIDS A STAR

I HAVE TO SAY I WAS INSULTED BY THE FIRST MOTHER JULIE ON TODAYS SHOW I WANTED TO COME THROUGH  MY TV AND SLAP HER SAYING THAT 5 YR OLDS ARE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, 5 YR OLD BARELY MATCH THEIR CLOTHES TOGETHER FOR THE DAY AHEAD, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOUR 5YR OLD BORROWED YOUR CAR TO RUN TO THE GAS STATION FOR CANDY. 

         AND POINT TWO ARENT THERE ENOUGH SICK AND DEMENTED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HUNTING OUR KIDS ANY WHERE THEY ARE AND WHEREVER THEY GO IS IT REALLY NECASSARY TO PARADE THEM AROUND AND SAY HERE THEY ARE COME AND GET THEM.. 

   

SICKENED IN IL 

 
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June 1, 2006, 2:00 pm PDT

Can you say "living vicariously?"

I'm surprised that there are actually parents that behave like this.  

   

My parents always encouraged me to pursue my interests, particularily music, which I am very talented at and could have pursued professionally.  They got me started at a very young age, but there was no pressure on me or my sister who was also talented at music, but was a much better artist.  I taught music lessons and performed and played with a variety of groups around the city where I was from.  

   

I was always a monster before a show and extremely critical of my own talents and performances, but my parents always supported me and encouraged me to have fun and work on my skill.  When I see parents like Bridget it troubles me becuase I feel like those kids are working for their parents, and not for the love of performing and sharing your talent.  It is obvious that she's a great singer and I think that she would be a real showstopper is she was allowed to go out on stage and just have fun.  

   

Parents need to understand that their children aren't adults and don't think like adults.  They can seem to understand things like criticism and such, but they are vulnerable to damaging their identity and self esteem.  It seems almost abusive that a parent would scold her child for holding a mike the wrong way, and the silent treatment is soooooo uncalled for.  Way to shut your children out Bridget - I would spend more time positively reinforcing your daughter and building a positive relationship with your child so they still talk to you when they're adults.  

   

I don't mean to judge.  I don't feel like it's really my place, but when you go on national tv with stuff like that, you've got to be prepared for some sort of public opinion.  Isn't that one of the reasons why people go on shows like this, to be tried in the court of public opinion?  Bridget obviously thinks she's not doing anything wrong, and even when people (including the heaviest opinion - Dr. Phil) say that she's scarring her child, then shouldn't you just suck it up and consider laying off a little bit?  

   

The pagents are perverted for children of that age.  That woman is delusional about those kids in the pagents.  That child is basically walking around with a huge "sexual predator target" that her own mother put on.  I'm extremely troubled to hear that she didn't have any change of heart after the show.  Especially when you get someone on the show that is involved with pagents (something I'm not too crazy about, but that could be because I'm Canadian and we don't really do the pagent thing - but that's okay, I think they can be allright if they are in the right doses and situations) that says that it's twisted to set children, still considered to be in their formative years in those hideous outfits and dress them up like sexually mature individuals.  Kinda twisted.   

 
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June 1, 2006, 2:02 pm PDT

My Kid Loves to Perform Too!

I have a daughter who loves to perform.  She does so in her school plays, church choir, and school choir.  She has been in one professional theatre production, and it was a thrill for her.  She goes to school full-time, plays basketball, takes piano, voice, and dance, goes to sleepovers, watches videos, listens to music, and spends a lot of time with us and her sister.  She does all her performing in the local area, and manages to attend all of her friends' birthday parties!  She performs if she wants to and if it fits in with school work and doesn't keep her up too late.  It is her decision, and as her parents, we make sure she has good teachers, eats well, and has plenty of emotional support from us for everything in her life. 

  

I was so sad to see the criticism of the 9-year-old country singer from her parents.  They would be better advised to get their daughter a good singing teacher and stay out of it.  Their job is to love her and care for her.  The daughter should also be sleeping in her own bed on the weekend, rather than traipsing around the state singing for her (and their) supper.  Children aren't meant to earn income; they will have to soon enough, so let them be children as long as you can. 

  

Incidentally, I have another daughter who is very talented vocally, but she doesn't like performing, so guess what?  She doesn't do it!   What a concept.  She likes swimming, so that's what she does. 

 
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June 1, 2006, 2:04 pm PDT

guide don't criticize

THE WOMEN WHO FORCE THEIR KIDS INTO PAGEANTS ARE SELFISH. THEY ARE TRYING TO RELIVE THEIR LIVES THROUGH THEIR KIDS.  THEY NEED TO TEACH THEIR KIDS INNER BEAUTY BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO WEAR ALL THAT MAKE UP & BIG HAIR TO BE BEAUTIFUL YOUR IN BIG TROUBLE WHEN YOU GET INTO THE REAL WORLD. 

  

MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN A NATURAL BEAUTY (EVEN MY GIRLFRIENDS ARE JEALOUS BECAUSE MY GIRL IS PRETTIER THAN THEIRS) OF COURSE, I WOULD NEVER TELL THEM I'M AWARE OF THEIR OBVIOUS FEELINGS.  WHEN PEOPLE GO ON ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE IS I TELL THEM "SHE'S MORE BEAUTIFUL ON THE INSIDE".  I ALWAYS TELL HER INNER BEAUTY IS MORE IMPORTANT THE OUTER BEAUTY.  SHE IS VERY WELL ADJUSTED. EVEN AT 13. 

  

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICIZING THEIR DAUGHTER FOR NOT BEING A PERFECT PERFORMER AT NINE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET IT. THEY DON'T WANT TO GET IT.  ONE DAY THEIR CUTE LITTLE NINE YEAR OLD WILL BE A TEENAGER, AND THEN LOOK OUT REBELLION HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 
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