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Topic : 06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:29:55 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/16/05) Every parent believes his or her child is exceptional, but how do you know when you are pushing your children beyond their limits? Bridget is so determined to make her 9-year-old daughter the next LeAnn Rimes, she has had her singing every weekend for the last seven months, and she is constantly criticizing her performances and punishing her when she makes mistakes. The father of the biggest sister act in pop music weighs in. And, Julie is so obsessed with placing her daughters in hundreds of glitz beauty pageants, she has practically bankrupted her family. Her sister, Jamie, says she is forcing her 5-year-old to grow up too soon, and the pageants have torn their family apart. Talk about the show here.

 

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June 1, 2006, 3:26 pm PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

these parents need a real dose of reality. or actually they need a hit up side the head with an iron skillet. then they need the trade places with their children and have to be pushed as hard as they push their children good advice dr. phil 

 
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June 1, 2006, 3:29 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. IS KID MY STAR. Are you kiding me?  I like the Idea but not for long because she is 09-- 

years old. But Doctor Phil kids have to wait untill they are 16 year olds not when they are 09 years--- 

old. That is not going to work at all. See you tomorrow Afternoon. Well I had better close now.--------- 

Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

 
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June 1, 2006, 3:34 pm PDT

Who is in charge here?

I am getting really sick of these parents saying "It's not our decision it's hers"....it is just like Dr. Phil said -  it's the tail wagging the dog.  It is ridiculous for a parent to say that it is NOT their decision.  The decision most certainly is their's ... it is a parents' responsibility to love, protect and set limits for their children, not let the child run the show.  So what if they throw a fit or get upset?? Who said parenting was going to be easy?? Parents have to make the hard decisions and sometimes those decisions aren't popular. Give me a break!
 
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June 1, 2006, 3:37 pm PDT

The show was all about the parents not the children

I was on the stage all through my childhood. I saw atrocities with stage mothers that would make your hair stand on end. It was so obvious to me that the parents on the show were not in the least sensitive to the emotional needs of their children. The mother of the little singer was bordering on evil in her treatment of her child. She is not a professional coach. She is not a professional musician or performer, yet she feels qualified to criticize and amend her child's performance. She was putting on an act through the whole show, flirting and smiling and trying to joke around, and basically lying about her behavior. The pageant mother seemed to be in another world, oblivious to what anyone was saying to her. I doubt that anything will change. These two women are too obsessed with living through their children and having something to brag about. The day will come when their relationship with their child is nonexistent. . Bridget is a super colossal stage mother, absolutely uncaring as to what she is doing to her child. Does she not realize that a child who makes a mistake on stage or has not given her best performance knows what she has done? Does this woman have to rub it in and punish her? Why?  Who appointed her to be lord high executioner when she has never been on the stage herself? The father was just as insensitive. That child's face when she was being tortured in the car was enough for any one who has children to see that it was wrong. What is the point of a 9 year old having a "career" if it is made into a nightmare  by someone who does not have a show business background? What nerve. Why not hire a professional coach to help the child and stay out of it.?  I would also like to know if the little girl gets paid for her performances or is she doing this gratis? I certainly understand that a large investment of time and money is put into these endeavors, but perhaps it would be wise to remember that children also say they want to be cowboys and fireman. However, no one makes them go around in a fireman's suit or cowboy outfit or makes them practice being cowboys or fireman for years. I am particularly worried about Bridget's child. She is very sensitive and emotional and is quite talented. Whether or not this will develop into something that she can carry into adulthood is another story altogether. Her voice is not yet developed, no one knows if she will have a career at this point, and for her childhood to be stunted and for her to be tormented by a mother who should be supportive is tragic for her.Her parents might like to remember how many children in show business have run away, gotten into drugs or killed themselves due to the pressure and the low self worth that has been given to them by their parents. However, I know nothing will change. The parents do not seem to have even been touched by anything that was said. I wish them luck.  

 
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June 1, 2006, 3:39 pm PDT

STOP living VICARIOUSLY Thru your KIds

These parents are so pathetic. Let kids be kids. Childhood is so short. You have plenty of time to pursue adult endeavors. No child under 12 should be pressured into anything. Grow up Parents!
 
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June 1, 2006, 3:40 pm PDT

Kara's Mom Please Read...Don't worry...

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I am Kara's mother.  I appreciate all the concern you guys have expressed but let me assure you everything you see is not always how it truly is.  My daughter is an extremely talented kid.  She plays soccer and softball and sings almost every weekend at venues across the states of Tx. and OK.  She is in the 4th grade and maintains straight A's.  Her father and I noticed at an early age that she had an interest in singing and also dancing.  We enrolled her in dance lessons but she soon realized that she liked to sing the songs rather than dance to them.  We then enrolled her in voice lessons.  She was a natural and she loved it.  Now 2 years later at 9 years old her goal is to be the next Leann Rimes.  We did not push her into this decision.  She pushed us.  Every weekend she is ready to go .  She loves to meet new people and to see the friends she has made.  The punishment part comes down to this.  It is just like practicing for a basketball game.  You would not let your child play in a game that he or she was not prepared for.  Kara has to practice.  Sometimes she doesn't want to but she has to.  It's like making your kids brush their teeth. your kid doesn't want to brush their teeth but you make them.  Punishment??  We realize that she is just 9 years old, but this is her decision not ours.  Their are times when our family does not want to travel 200 miles for a show but because she loves it and and we believe you have to back up your kids and help them live their dreams, we load up and go.  Is this PUNISHMENT?  We have 2 other children and we would do the same for them.  We just want to see our kids  do what makes them happy.  Yes i agree their are some parents that live through their kids and their are some that go to extremes where some people are concerned but We are not those Parents.  At any time, if my daughter decides she does not want to sing we will support her decision, but we do encourage our kids to finish what they start and not to be quitters when the going gets tough.  And as far as critisism goes, we do not put her down we give her constructed advise because she asks us for it. Check out karahawkins.com and see for yourself!!

I just finished watching the show and i have read what a lot of people have said regarding your parenting and your daughter.  First of all, I want to point out that you and your husband obviously love your daughter a lot and many children would be lucky to have parents like you.  Encouraging your child to excel and to endure adversity is what every parent in the world should do.  My parents encouraged me to play sports, get involved in extracurricular activities and to go to university.  I did all that and i thank them for that.  BUT...my parents never criticized my performances.  There is enough criticism in the world already and the last thing i would have ever wanted to hear was a negative reaction from MY PARENTS!!!  Again, i want you to know that i am not against you like so many other people are in this message board.  I think that you should just try to see it from an outside perspective OR the perspective of your daughter.  Dr. Phil mentioned that your daughter might be so energetic about getting another show booked because it could be a measure of her self-worth.  I think that he really hit the nail on the head.  One day she may not want to pursue this singing career anymore but may feel as though she can't quit because she wouldn't be "worth" as much or she may not have anything else to offer.  I think that the main thing to take from other people's opinions is that positive reinforment is better than negative.  When the majority of people (including mental health professionals such as Dr. Phil) say things that are completely opposite from what you are thinking, its sometimes beneficial to step back and see what all the fuss is about.  See if there is any validity in what other people are saying about the way that you criticise your daughter after "a poor performance".  Even though you guys sound like you are loving and supportive parents...even the best still need to step back and improve THEIR OWN PERFORMANCE as parents.  And as for your mother-in-law, she is probably so lenient with your children because you are SO NOT.  She sees you at one end of the parenting spectrum and she wants to be at the exact opposite end.  I bet if you stopped being so critical of your daughters performances and eased up, she would stop being sooo lenient with your daughter.   

  

Anyways, i just wanted to try to help you see a different perspective and i hope you know that i see you guys as loving parents.   

KEY POINT:  I was using constructive criticism to let you know that i don't neccessarily agree with what you guys are doing.  I first told you what you were doing right and then i pointed out diplomatically what i thought could be improved.  I imagine that my posting was a lot easier to read and maybe you might be able to see my point better because of the way that i addressed it.  Maybe if you were to use the same technique with your daughter, you wouldnt encounter these problems. 

  

Anyways...Best of Luck!!! 

  

  

  

  

 
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June 1, 2006, 3:49 pm PDT

Kids are too young to make the decisions

It was distressing to hear both sets of parents say that the choice (pageant or country singing) is that of the child. Parents are supposed to guide the choice of the child not enable every wish. Parents shouldn't just give in to the child because he or she wants something. BTW, I think that children love making mommny and daddy happy and that they love the attention that is received. Of course repeating what gets love and attention will be eagerly sought Of the dad of the 9 year-old country singing girl: Wake Up! Give praise when it is most effective. Give correction when it is most effective. If you are going to coach, then do it in the most effective manner. I also think both sets of parents are living vicariously through their children. Stop it. Let them develop into the people that they were meant to be.
 
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June 1, 2006, 3:58 pm PDT

Singers' parents STUBBORN

How many times?  How many different approaches by how many different people did it take to get through to those two??!  They were so STUBBORN AND DEFENSIVE, I wanted to cry. 

  

There were enough contradictions in her reporting on their lives and when the Good Doctor would call her on something, she would just do a "re-write!" (As I call them.) 

  

They came on the show, they asked Dr. Phil what he thought and then when he didn't deliver what they wanted to hear, they set their mental gears in BACKTRACK mode.  Frustrating! (Secretly, I wanted to slap that mom!) 

 

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June 1, 2006, 4:00 pm PDT

More inane parents

All these "mothers" did was argue with Dr Phil,and his expert advice fell on some very ignorant and deaf ears..These are selfish and shallow inadequate parents who  want sucess for their own benefit,not the children.I am sure by the messages here,it is obvious they did NOT fool the nation.Poor kids
 
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June 1, 2006, 4:00 pm PDT

Surprised with the dad

I was very distressed with this little girl's father.  He was very competitive with dr. phil and was like a bully almost.  I personally think these people are not very bright at all.  I feel very sorry for this little girl who will be a very nervous and insecure woman someday.  I hope the father doesn't bully his daughter like he was with dr. phil.  They sure hate criticism  why can't they see how their daughter must feel?
 
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