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(Original Air Date: 11/16/05) Every parent believes his or her child is exceptional, but how do you know when you are pushing your children beyond their limits? Bridget is so determined to make her 9-year-old daughter the next LeAnn Rimes, she has had her singing every weekend for the last seven months, and she is constantly criticizing her performances and punishing her when she makes mistakes. The father of the biggest sister act in pop music weighs in. And, Julie is so obsessed with placing her daughters in hundreds of glitz beauty pageants, she has practically bankrupted her family. Her sister, Jamie, says she is forcing her 5-year-old to grow up too soon, and the pageants have torn their family apart. Talk about the show here.

 

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June 1, 2006, 7:52 pm PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

Quote From: lewilliams

I really feel bad for your 9 year old daughter.  I really have to tell you that she can't sing and she really should give it up.  YOu are seeing nothing but dollar signs in your eyes and you will do whatever it takes to get that money.  The chances of her getting a career out of this is slim to none and slim just left town.  Let her do it for fun and fun only...not alterior motives that you and your husband so obviosly have
I think it's really troublesome that they keep saying it's her decision...hmm...guess it's easier as a parent to absolve themselves of any responsibility.  I wonder if they have any opinions at all?   I found this couple extremely aggravating, particularly the husband, who refused to open his mind even a tiny bit to the possibility that maybe, just MAYBE he isn't 100% right about this.  When he said "Well what should I do, tell her to shut up?" I thought oh boy that was really mature.
 
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June 1, 2006, 8:14 pm PDT

i want my baby girl to grow up like a barbie-doll

 Lets see, when she grows up, I hope my baby girl is obsessed with clothes,  makeup, & jewelry.  I want her to  choose her  friends by how they dress,  and to judge people by their looks.
--other kids will think she's stuck-up and snotty, but she won't care, because she's got ME behind her- to PUSH her on to SUCCESS!
--Then, I hope she feels paranoid when her face and body begin to show signs of age (after 30)-  and nags her third husband for more money for plastic surgeries (after husbands one + two went broke)
--I KNOW !  I'LL ENTER HER IN BEAUTY PAGEANTS, then she can fulfill all my dreams!
 
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June 1, 2006, 8:21 pm PDT

Let our children grow up first

Does anyone remember Jon Benet Ramsey 9 years ago she was a pagent queen. Her parents had the money for security systems and I sure they did everything they could to keep her safe. but still some sicko got through and murdered her. Please let our children be queens for there familys and stop parading them around for these sickos . I think if Jon Benet's parents could do it all again they would have a different outlook. Don't wait until it's to late.
 
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June 1, 2006, 8:22 pm PDT

As adult friend of parent, what if you're wrong

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It seems unfair for you to say back off to this person. I don't really think they're attacking your friend. It was a general comment. There are SOME children who are absolutely miserable doing what their parents push them to do, and I do know that firsthand. I was a competitive tap dancer for 18 years, and I am a dance teacher now, and some of my kids (I call my students my kids :-) ) will actually come up to me and tell me that they like to dance, but don't want to do it competitively, but they can't tell their parents that because the parents would have a fit. Competitive dancing is really tough on kids, and even tougher if your heart isn't in it. Parents will be angry at me for not putting their little "Star" in the solo role or for not putting them in the front row, even if the child really shouldn't be there. The parents could care less if the kid actually likes to dance, or is even good, they just want their child to be the star of the show, and that is unfair. My youngest competitors are 7 years old, and there is one girl who literally comes to me crying every day the week before a competition and tells me how much she wants to play soccer, but her mom won't let her. Her mother was a dancer as well, and wants her daughter to do the same thing, and be better than she was. Her mother didn't get to compete very much and is openly bitter about that fact. I always tell her to let her mom know that she likes to dance, but doesn't want to do it 5 days a week, and would like to play soccer with her friends. She tells me that her mother absolutely won't allow that because "Mom knows best". It's really a shame to watch, and it breaks my heart. I wanted to dance, and my mom told me that whenever I wanted to stop, I could. It turns out that I love tap dancing, so I pushed myself. My mother always supported me, never pushed me. There is a difference between supporting your child's dreams, and pushing your own.

I understand the protective instinct of a friend, and it is a wonderful thing.  However, what if you're wrong.   

What if you are not aware of the whole picture.  Often we minimize the tantrums and dramas in front of others.   Maybe your friend is putting it all out there and is allowing her daughter to express all her feelings, both good and bad in front of you, her friend.  But what if you are wrong.  Has there ever been a time that you have any questions about this situation?  I doubt so many months later you'd still read this, but even if you do, please I don't need a response;  just think about it.  Can you say within yourself, that if this were to turn into a bad situation for this little girl, would you have the integrity and strength to be a real friend and say "stop, you've gone too far".  Yes, it is a risk to the friendship.  But it is the responsibility of EVERY ADULT  to put the needs of children first.  Yes, you are able to write in defense of your friend, but can you honestly say that you would speak the truth to your friend EVEN IF SHE NEVER SPOKE TO YOU AGAIN IN DEFENSE OF THIS CHILD.  Because now you are on record saying this little girl is happy and this is not a detriment to her developement, supporting your friend.  I hope to God you are correct.  But as an adult, how will you feel in 15 or 20 years if this little girl becomes a woman and tells you she was miserable, angry and it has scarred her.  Will you rest easy knowing you did everything you could for your friend, to help her maintain balance in the convoluted and difficult world of show business, to call attention to possible short sightedness and lapses in judgement:  to help her be the best mom she could be, raise the healthiest and happiest child she could raise.   Did friends of Dana Plato's mom and Judy Garland's mom, (endless list) have regrets?  Can you honestly say you are a true friend to mom, looking out for her when she may not have the vision, the love for her (mom) to say the tough things that need to be said despite her reaction and the integrity as an adult to do right by a child if needed, no matter what anyone thinks. 

Good luck. 

 
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June 1, 2006, 8:41 pm PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

Hmm...I guess the issue here is whether or not this is the parents  desire or the childs. 

  

I must admit that I really don't care for pageants, no matter the age...sometimes, it comes down to who can buy the best clothes or services...such as hairstylist, makeup artist, dance and singing instructors...at age 5..certainly this is the mother's desire, and not the childs.  It just so happens, that at this point, the child still thinks it's fun, and probably loves the attention. 

  

But when it comes to the singing girl...I think I would cut the mom some slack.  It is entirely possible that Kara *does* want to sing.  And found her passion. 

  

People who don't *have* have passion don't understand this.  If this is truly Kara's passion...she probably doesn't care if she sings in bars!  If the girl loves to sing...she will.  And if it's truly your passion...you really don't get caught up in the technicality of your craft...it's an art...and the quirks make it truly *your* art. 

  

My husband is musician.  When he was 14 he wanted a baby grand piano.  His parents didn't know where to put such a monstrosity in their modest home...he said he didn't mind putting it in his room...he'd sleep on it or over it...but music was HIS passion...and he got a job to earn a baby grand. 

  

When he was 9...this fire burned inside of him.  This is what he wanted to do...he practiced for HOURS. No one made him...no one pushed him... 

  

How sad..."life" dealt him a different hand of cards... 

  

But every now and then... 

  

My home is filled with lovely music, when he doesn't think anyone is listening. 

  

Kara...if this is what you want...go for it...I hope you reach the stars...just know...you are *already* a star... 

  

Marie 

 
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June 1, 2006, 8:59 pm PDT

Thank God for this kid's grandparents!

All I can say is this:  with parents like these, these kids don't need any enemies and thank God Bridget has grandparents!  What ARE they thinking?  AND, furthermore, they STILL don't get it--they do not have a clue.  How pathetic these parents are...what a shame for these kids!
 
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June 1, 2006, 9:04 pm PDT

parents living THEIR dreams

Why can't these parents look at the discussion with an open mind. I don't care if mom thinks you're only showing the negative parts...they are more than enough to offset ANY benefits. Let the girl grow up as a normal kid. If their daughter decided she wanted to go to a birthday party, would the parents agree? Not by what I saw on the show. And the father, even with advice from the Simpson's dad, said "if she asks me I'll tell her exactly how the performance was." I agree that there should be praise for her performance and use criticism for a later practice session. The parents have an un-natural compulsion to put everything into this girls future. Are they looking for 'easy street' down the way so they can live 'large'? And grandma...being a three time grandparent, I know the special bonds that exist between the different generations. Everything that grandma is doing is correct for the role she plays in this girl's life.  

I'm sorry, I just can't find anything positive in the statements from either mom or dad. I raised four children and they picked their professions as they developed skills or saw examples. they all turned out to be responsible and happy adults. I did try with one daughter to teach her piano because I loved the sounds. I found out from another daughter (after years of lessons) that this student actually resented the instrument and would rather be making mud pies. Would these parents let their daughter quit if she truly was tired of the charade?  

 
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June 1, 2006, 9:06 pm PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

Quote From: marychris5

I think it's really troublesome that they keep saying it's her decision...hmm...guess it's easier as a parent to absolve themselves of any responsibility.  I wonder if they have any opinions at all?   I found this couple extremely aggravating, particularly the husband, who refused to open his mind even a tiny bit to the possibility that maybe, just MAYBE he isn't 100% right about this.  When he said "Well what should I do, tell her to shut up?" I thought oh boy that was really mature.
I agree--the husband was particularly aggravating and ignorant, though his wife wasn't too much better.  Wouldn't you be embarrassed to be parents like these?  They aren't smart enough to know that they should be.
 
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June 1, 2006, 9:06 pm PDT

Leann Rimes??

I just got done watching the show.  The only thing I have to say is that her PARENTS contacted Dr. Phil for his advice, and once he gave it to them, they looked as though he was offending them!  You asked for it?  Why did you come on the show if you were not prepared for some criticism?  Maybe they were just trying to get her some more exposure?
 
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June 1, 2006, 9:08 pm PDT

"I'm not gonna lie to her"

 I understand, admire, and respect the father's desire to be open and honest with his daughter, in fact, more fathers should be. However, I think he should look at her questions a bit more carefully before answering them. He said that when she comes off stage, she asks how she did and honestly wants to know his opinion. And this is where he said he's not gonna lie to her if she did badly. Well, Dad, she did not come off stage and say, "Dad, Mom, what did I do wrong?" Right? She comes off stage and says, "How did I do?" If she says, "How did I do?" then, like Dr. Phil said, just take the time to point out the good things and leave the things the bad stuff to be reviewed at practice time. And if, like Dad said, most of the time she already knows what she did wrong, and SHE brings them up, then he can tell her, "Yeah, that note was a little off, but don't worry about it, we'll work on that tomorrow. For now, let's get some ice cream!"  Just a thought  :)
Good luck in pursuit of ya'll's dreams!
 
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