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Topic : 11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:33:38 am
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Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared early last summer during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. On a recent show, Dr. Phil joined the search for the missing teen and broke new ground in the case. He called for a boycott of Aruba and put his own investigators on the trail. Now, two months later, Natalee's mother feels there is a strong chance her daughter is still alive. Hear, for the first time ever, the evidence she reveals to Dr. Phil. Also, learn how effective the boycott is and why a pair of Dr. Phil's rescuers found themselves in need of a rescue.  Plus, Natalee's disappearance bears similarities to the case of another young woman who went missing in the same region. Meet the parents of Amy Bradley and see what strong evidence has them holding onto hope that their daughter is still alive.  Join the discussion.

 

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November 17, 2005, 7:19 am PST

Dr. Phil and Mrs. Halloway are ridiculous!

Of course it is a tradegy for a young girl to go missing and never be found. But no one seems to be giving Natalee any responsibility whatsoever for what happened to her. When you go out of the country, and you are that age, you don't get into strange cars with people you don't know, and you always stay with a classmate. I went to France on a school trip when I was 15, and they told us to NEVER go out by ourselves. Did Natalee deserve to be killed? Absolutely not. But let's be realistic about the situation. The other thing that is absolutely ridiculous about all of this is the call for a boycott of Aruba. GIve me a break! The people of Aruba were the ones who were out there combing the beaches and the dump sites. If America boycotts Aruba, we will be hurting the people of Aruba, not their police force who may or may not have done a sub-par job. They are the ones who will suffer, seeing as they are the ones who thrive on the tourist economy. There are thousands of unsolved murders in the United States, yet people aren't calling for a boycott of this country. Aruba does not have to be held to the legal and investigative standards of this country. Again, it is terrible for a young girl to be missing. It is terrible that something bad may have, and probably did, happened to her. But, let's get real, as Dr. Phil would say. It's not fair to boycott a country just because they can't find your daughter. And when you go out of the country, be smart about what you do. Stay away from strangers.
 

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November 17, 2005, 7:28 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Boy, these stories make me even more determined that I will not give my kids trips for graduation or spring breaks and such.  I always thought that even the best of kids could have trouble on them and now I see it can happen.  I just don't think they have the maturity yet to permit such trips.  I know this kind of thing could happen to anyone though.  Don't get me wrong, I do not think Natalies family is to blame.  Absolutely not!  They were just doing something nice for their daughter.  Boy, what a shame that something so simple as a vacation can turn out so wrong.  My heart goes out to these poor families and these girls.  I hope that they find them not only for their sake but also for the sake of others.  Bringing it out into the open by actually finding these girls can be a devastating blow for these countries who pretend it does not happen.  Hopefully that could make a huge difference because travel would slow and therefore their financial status would too, resulting in maybe new and tougher laws regarding these things.

I hope you don't act on your statement that you won't allow your children to travel.  At some point they will travel without sitting in Mom's lap.  If they are completely inexperienced when that happens, they will be very vulnerable. Supervised group trips are one of the best ways to prepare them safely for that transition.   

  

 
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November 17, 2005, 7:28 am PST

Just for the record...

I just want to make clear that here in Auba we can't make our laws all by ourselves because we are part of the Dutch kingdom. Holland, The Antilles and Aruba are equal partners and therefor they work together. So if our laws are the way they are, it's not because we did it on purpose to not solve the case. Let's get some things straight: We as the citizen's of Aruba did all we could to help find Natalee. We all felt horrible thinking what could have happened to her and how it would be if someone we cared about disappeared in a foreign country. I don't think it's a good idea to start being rude/mean towards Americans but you have to understand that we get mad thinking that our income is in your hands and you will use that to try to destroy us. Did we all go to Carlos'n Charlies with Natalee? Did we all step into a car with her? Do we all know what happened to her? Don't think so. 

We want this case solved as much as you do. We will be the same nice and friendly hosts we are known for and we'll prove to all that come to visit our island that we're good and caring people.  

 
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November 17, 2005, 7:35 am PST

She is not the only one

             I feel for Natalee and understand that her family is searching for her. I would do the same if my child was missing. What I don't like is just because her family has the money to get things done she is on all the headlines. There are so many other children whos parents can not afford to keep the news interested. These girls should be treated like the rest of the girls who are missing. Noone deserves "special" attention just because their parents can pay the media to keep it alive.
 
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November 17, 2005, 7:35 am PST

Seems important

I think my mom may know the name of the reporter who approached Mrs. Halloway with information about Natalie. A few years ago my mom and her friend were vacationing in Aruba when all of their jewelry was stollen. A reporter approached my mom and her friend with infomation about their stollen stuff and they went riding around with him in the slums of Aruba for a week in search of their jewels. He was able to get info from the "chollers," homeless people who live in the slums. Mostly they paid for the info, but the Chollers seem to be the eyes and ears of all hte shady things that happen there. Anyway. They found out the names of the men who stole their stuff but when they went to the police, the police wouldn't do anything because they didn't want Aruba to get a bad reputation! I think this hellpful reporter has got to be the same man who approached Mrs. Hal;lowell. Mom thinks she must have his name written down somewhere. Should I call the hotline? Jodie Perry
 
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November 17, 2005, 7:40 am PST

Arrogant Americans

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Americans are boycotting Aruba due to the fact that the government would not allow the FBI or our own investigators to help in the interrogation and gaining information on the island.  If Aruba had been more helpful and forthcoming I highly doubt that Americans would be taking the stand they are now against Aruba.  Why should we allow our families to go there when we know that if we did go missing the government there would not do everything possible to help find us!   I agree with our decision to boycott the country on this premise.  We are not boycotting the country as a personal affront to the people that live there, we are doing it to make a point to your government. 

The world is not safe.  Not in the small towns nor on a small island out in the middle of nowhere.  As long as there are demented sex crazed individuals we are going to be fighting things like this.  As parents we cannot let our guard down where our children are concerned and we need to be vigilant in trying to find these kids and putting criminals like this away and throwing the key away!  My heart goes out to the parents that have missing children.  May they all be found and returned to their loved ones. 

If Aruba wants our business they should be more open to help and assistance from our officials who know how to get results and aren't looking to cover their own butts! 

  

  

I see now why other countries think Americans are so arrogant. To think that our law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI, can solve a crime so much better and more efficiently than another country is so arrogant it is laughable. We have so many cold cases in this country the networks and cable TV have enough shows (Cold Case Files, etc.) for years to come. There are mistakes made in most if not all investigations in this country so do not think we are infallible just because its the FBI doing the investigating. You and your family are far more likely to come to harm right in your own hometown as opposed to outside the US as there is probably a convicted sex offender (or two) living right in your neighborhood. If you chose to live your life in fear by not traveling or allowing your children to experience other cultures and countries that is certainly your perogative, but do not expect everyone else to follow suit and boycott a beautiful island just because of the remote possibility of becoming a crime victim.
 
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November 17, 2005, 8:06 am PST

Hair is dyed!

Hi, 

  

Dr. Phil, I appreciate your pursuing a topic that will help others! 

  

1.  On the show, the men were looking for a blonde, but they also said Natalaie's hair was dyed, so they shouldn't look for a blonde but keep looking the same, otherwise. 

2.   Perhaps Amy Bradley's parents were meant to help many other families. 

  

Thank you so much for your show! 

  

 
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November 17, 2005, 8:23 am PST

Call For Prayer

I feel such sorrow for both the Holloway and the Bradley family.  I am asking all christians to pray for these families and the families of all the victims that fall prey to the sex trade.  Pray for God to stop this perversion.  Listening to the show today, I cried and prayed for God to let these families find peace with their terrible situations and for God to lead these young women home.  God does answer prayers. 

  

Wendy Ritchie 

 
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November 17, 2005, 8:25 am PST

There is still Hope

WOW!  There is still hope for Natalee.  I had not ever heard the story of Amy Bradley though.  I can't do anything to actually help the cases, but I do have prayer.  Natalee, Amy, other missing kidnapped children are in my prayers.  I have started a chain mail that I hope can make a difference in the continued effort to boycott Aruba travels.  It may or may not make a difference, but its the least I can do.  For the men who are actually going over there and looking for these girls, who have laid their lives on the line by going undercover, my heart and prayers are with all of you as well.  I hope you can find all the missing children that you can.   

 

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November 17, 2005, 8:29 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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I just want to make clear that here in Auba we can't make our laws all by ourselves because we are part of the Dutch kingdom. Holland, The Antilles and Aruba are equal partners and therefor they work together. So if our laws are the way they are, it's not because we did it on purpose to not solve the case. Let's get some things straight: We as the citizen's of Aruba did all we could to help find Natalee. We all felt horrible thinking what could have happened to her and how it would be if someone we cared about disappeared in a foreign country. I don't think it's a good idea to start being rude/mean towards Americans but you have to understand that we get mad thinking that our income is in your hands and you will use that to try to destroy us. Did we all go to Carlos'n Charlies with Natalee? Did we all step into a car with her? Do we all know what happened to her? Don't think so. 

We want this case solved as much as you do. We will be the same nice and friendly hosts we are known for and we'll prove to all that come to visit our island that we're good and caring people.  

I think that everyone's reaction to a story like this is to villianize the place where it happened.  It is much easier to imagine that it was just the location that put these children at risk.  Otherwise we would have to face the fact that are children are all at risk. 

  

Obviously Aruba is a safe place. Millions of people visit your land every year and there isn't a constant stream of cases like this. The sad fact is that there are horrible people who prey on children everywhere. Children living in the US and Canada have been grabbed out of their beds or from their back yards.  There really is nowhere that we can just let our guard down and know our children are safe.   

  

We all need to keep our children safe by preparing them for life.  Every child needs to know not to go with strangers.  I teach my children to stay in areas where there are other people and to scream, yell, kick and fight if someone tries to move them from the first contact scene to another place.  Even if they are being threatened with violence. I even tested them a few times about what to do if someone asked for help finding a lost pup or something. But even a well prepared child can be lost-there are very skilled manipulators at work.   

  

All we can do is keep our eyes and ears open for anything suspicious. If everyone is alert and willing to walk up to a situation and ask about what is going on, children would be much safer. 

 
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