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Topic : 11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:33:38 am
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Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared early last summer during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. On a recent show, Dr. Phil joined the search for the missing teen and broke new ground in the case. He called for a boycott of Aruba and put his own investigators on the trail. Now, two months later, Natalee's mother feels there is a strong chance her daughter is still alive. Hear, for the first time ever, the evidence she reveals to Dr. Phil. Also, learn how effective the boycott is and why a pair of Dr. Phil's rescuers found themselves in need of a rescue.  Plus, Natalee's disappearance bears similarities to the case of another young woman who went missing in the same region. Meet the parents of Amy Bradley and see what strong evidence has them holding onto hope that their daughter is still alive.  Join the discussion.

 

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November 17, 2005, 9:08 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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I see now why other countries think Americans are so arrogant. To think that our law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI, can solve a crime so much better and more efficiently than another country is so arrogant it is laughable. We have so many cold cases in this country the networks and cable TV have enough shows (Cold Case Files, etc.) for years to come. There are mistakes made in most if not all investigations in this country so do not think we are infallible just because its the FBI doing the investigating. You and your family are far more likely to come to harm right in your own hometown as opposed to outside the US as there is probably a convicted sex offender (or two) living right in your neighborhood. If you chose to live your life in fear by not traveling or allowing your children to experience other cultures and countries that is certainly your perogative, but do not expect everyone else to follow suit and boycott a beautiful island just because of the remote possibility of becoming a crime victim.

One of the nice things about living in the US is that you and your children can travel and experience different cultures and beautiful places without ever leaving our borders.  Heck, in New York City, you can do that in a 10 block radius!  You are right when you say that harm can come to you right here at home as well as anywhere else.  But there are certain things you can do to protect yourself and your children from harm.  I don't allow my children to engage in behavior that significantly raises their chances of getting hurt.  I don't allow them to juggle knives.  I don't allow them to play in traffic.    I don't allow them to ride their bikes on the block where a registered sex offender lives, and I don't allow them to travel to a country where young girls get abducted and disappear.  Yes, I know, that can happen here in the good ol' U.S. of A. as well, but it is my responsibility as a parent to protect them in every way I can.  So no, my children will not go to Aruba while they are under my care. 

  

As far as myself, I wouldn't go to Aruba if it was free.  That is a personal decision, it has nothing to do with the boycott.  Do I support the boycott?  Absolutely.  But I really don't think refusing to travel to Aruba constitutes living my life in fear.  I think that's just inflamatory rhetoric. 

 
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November 17, 2005, 9:11 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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 Worldwide america is looked to having loose values. THis would never happen in American and the citizens around do nothing about it. It seems as the citizens of these countries know what is happening and by their actions of doing nothing are supporting what is happening to these girls. It breaks my heart to know that anyone could experience that kind of pain. I pray and hope for the safe return of amy and natalie.  Why can the US goverment not go into these brothels were there are known Americans being held and break them out??

When will Americans understand that the Sex Slave Industry occurs in your own country????   

  

And your comment: "Why can the US government not go into these brothels where there are known Americans being held and break them out" is so typical.  It's all about the US.  What about destroying the whole industry.  What about freeing every girl of every nationality that is being treated as a sex slave?  Why does everything come down to what's best for Americans.  What about caring for all people who are being treating unjustly against their will.   

 
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November 17, 2005, 9:26 am PST

Keep our kids safe......

I am just blown away by today's show.  I had no idea that these places that are marketed to us as "paradise", and particularly sold to our college-aged kids as great school break destinations, might also be places of such disturbing potential danger.  I helped (and encouraged) my beautiful, totally naive 19-year-old daughter go on a vacation trip to the islands - she would have been such an easy target for anyone wanting to do her harm.......I am sick just thinking about it.  I guess I am just totally naive, too.  And abducted on a cruise ship!!!!!?????  It never would have even occured to me.   I will not travel anywhere again, especially with my children, without thoroughly researching the destination - and I don't mean reading the tourism brochures. 

  

The information on the sex slave operations was extremely, extremely disturbing.  These crimes against children ARE worse than murder.     The heroic work that  man (Ty?) does finding and rescuing  these kids is unbelievable.   The emotional toll on him must be enormous.   If the slave trade problem is as big as it appears to be, then I pray that there are alot more of him out there, but sadly, I doubt there are.   

  

Dr. Phil, keep educating us about how to protect, nurture and educate our kids.  And keep making a racket about these issues that need to be addressed, not ignored. 

  

My heart goes out to the families of Natalee and Amy.  And if there is any chance that these daughters are alive in such a horrible situation, they simply MUST be rescued, and those perverted scum involved (and I mean both the sellers and the buyers)  must be exposed and severely punished. 

 
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November 17, 2005, 9:32 am PST

Natilie is thought about

I have been trying to keep up to date with this case.   It concerns me that the Aruba goverement is not doing more.  It amazes me if they are tired of hearing from Beth.  Then why do they not do more.  Break down the three suspects.  I think boycotting Aruba is a great idea.  I think we should also take it a step further and not let the aruba people over.  Make just bump it up a notch.  There has to be someone who knows the truth.  Beth keep up the good work.  As for Amy's family I iknow it has been 7 years but I pray that you get your daughter home soon.  Thank you Dr phil for giving these families hope.
 
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November 17, 2005, 9:41 am PST

Boycott just Aruba?

Thank you Dr Phil for all the shocking information on today's show about Natalee and Amy.  After watching this show, I have sworn off of any Caribbean island or cruise.  Since abductions and sex slaves are all along the Caribbean, we as American's should boycott all of the Caribbean islands entirely until they get rid of the sex slave industry all together.   God bless our children.
 
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November 17, 2005, 9:52 am PST

sting operation

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I would like to say thank you to Dr. Phil for this show. The Holloway case is one I have follwed in the news. I must say, that the subject matter covered was a surprise to me. I honestly didn't know that the sex slave industry was as big as it is and that people who kidnap the girls have such an easy time doing this! I hope that both Amy & Natalee are found alive, but even if that is not the case, their disappearances have at least brought this horrible modern day slave trade into the public eye. This is something that does not get a lot of attention in the media. Dr. Phil and the guests did a great job informing the public. And, it made me recall something a colleague once told me. He was on a cruise ship that stopped in Cancuun.  He and a family friend were having drinks at restaurant while waiting on their wives to do some shopping. As they sat at the bar, what appeared to be a local man approached and asked them if they would like to have sex with a 10 yr old girl! He pointed to a girl across the street. My colleague said he was absolutely horrified, and when the man saw their reaction, he quickly disappeared and the child did as well. Now this may not have been part of a larger slave trade, but it is an example that the attitudes toward young women is certainly not what we are used to in America and that any tourist anywhere must practice caution.  

  

I pray for and commend those who are diligently trying to find Natalee.  

Hi everyone, 

I'm a huge fan too!Great show today!My heart goes out to the families and their beutiful daughters.I have a gorgeous 19 yr.olddaughter,who resembles Drew Barrymoore,if any thing were to happen to her I'd be devestated too!What about setting up the guys in Aruba using a wired ,extremely brave girl,agent?Is there a possibility that she may unfold and discover this sex slavery scandall? 

Hopeful they'll find the girls.If anyone can it's you Doc Phil.Ozzie was right,you could run for president! A fan,Mary 

 
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November 17, 2005, 10:00 am PST

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First off, let me say to the people of Aruba--I wouldn't worry about Americans boycotting your country. We can't get organized enough to form a picnic or any other activity, much less a boycott. 

  

I watched most of the Dr. Phil show today; and I have to say that quite a bit of it was misleading talk. Sentences like, this happens all the time in Aruba--but yet, they can only come up with one other case and the person wasn't even kidnapped in Aruba; the ship had already set sail the night before. 

  

Then we have the "ace investigators". Yeah, it's real subtle to get off a plane and the guy renting you a car just happens to know where you go to buy underage kidnapped prostitutes. Then when you get there, the "supposed madam" just starts shoving girls at you. Yeah, I'm believing that one. <rolling eyes> 

  

As for the FBI; there is no reason they could do any better a job than any other police agency. We don't own everything in the world and being an American citizen doesn't mean your so special that we can just send in whomever we want to take care of your case. Besides, those men were held 30 days or longer; the law here is that you have to be formally charged with a crime by a grand jury to be held longer than about 72 hours--which pretty much means you actually have to have SOME EVIDENCE--which the Aruban authorities didn't even have; it just so happens their law states they can be held longer while the authorities decide whether or not to charge you with something. 

  

I also would like to disagree with something that was said about this "supposed" phone call that Natalee's mother recieved. Dr. Phil stated that his expert analysts could not identify it as her voice because shows like CSI make people think that the FBI can do these things when they really can't and that only the person's mother would know whether or not it was their voice. If that is the case; then how can we trust the government (FBI & whomever else) to analyze these terrorists tapes and say that it is definitely Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden that is sending us the message? (Although I will say that CSI and shows like it do give people the sense of police and agencies being able to do forensics at a record clip when, in reality, that is not the case & also that they do some things that would never actually stand up in a court of law.) 

 
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November 17, 2005, 10:01 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

Quote From: kairshea

When will Americans understand that the Sex Slave Industry occurs in your own country????   

  

And your comment: "Why can the US government not go into these brothels where there are known Americans being held and break them out" is so typical.  It's all about the US.  What about destroying the whole industry.  What about freeing every girl of every nationality that is being treated as a sex slave?  Why does everything come down to what's best for Americans.  What about caring for all people who are being treating unjustly against their will.   

I don't think you should be so opinionated toward Dr.Phil regarding all his genuine efforts to help these poor desperate families find their daughters. If their are other nationalities over there,and there's a happy ending to this unsolved ,sick industry,I'm sure Dr.Phil won't leave standing their naked! If you pay attention to the negatives it does no good. Everyone should be thankful that there's a GOD and a Dr.Phil and Robin and family!
 

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November 17, 2005, 10:05 am PST

I meant unsupervised trips

Quote From: judyblue22

I hope you don't act on your statement that you won't allow your children to travel.  At some point they will travel without sitting in Mom's lap.  If they are completely inexperienced when that happens, they will be very vulnerable. Supervised group trips are one of the best ways to prepare them safely for that transition.   

  

Yes, my children will go eventually but not on teenage trips without good supervision.  I will not be sending them on trips without supervision as teens with my money and they will not be going with their own until they are of an age that I cannot say no.  We put too much confidence in our children today and think they can reason as adults when in their teens and they cannot.  As doctor Phil and his experts say, even as teens when they appear to be adults, their brains are not fully developed in the logical reasoning area.  GOOD supervision even as teens is necessary.  They also do not need to do anything they want.  We still can say no.
 
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November 17, 2005, 10:07 am PST

Watch the Enemy at Home

Quote From: delmonny

One of the nice things about living in the US is that you and your children can travel and experience different cultures and beautiful places without ever leaving our borders.  Heck, in New York City, you can do that in a 10 block radius!  You are right when you say that harm can come to you right here at home as well as anywhere else.  But there are certain things you can do to protect yourself and your children from harm.  I don't allow my children to engage in behavior that significantly raises their chances of getting hurt.  I don't allow them to juggle knives.  I don't allow them to play in traffic.    I don't allow them to ride their bikes on the block where a registered sex offender lives, and I don't allow them to travel to a country where young girls get abducted and disappear.  Yes, I know, that can happen here in the good ol' U.S. of A. as well, but it is my responsibility as a parent to protect them in every way I can.  So no, my children will not go to Aruba while they are under my care. 

  

As far as myself, I wouldn't go to Aruba if it was free.  That is a personal decision, it has nothing to do with the boycott.  Do I support the boycott?  Absolutely.  But I really don't think refusing to travel to Aruba constitutes living my life in fear.  I think that's just inflamatory rhetoric. 

According to World Vision a quarter of all who travel internationally so that they may solicit sex from children are U.S. citizens

  

Don't for one minute think your children are safe in the good ol' U.S. of A.   

 
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