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Topic : 11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:33:38 am
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Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared early last summer during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. On a recent show, Dr. Phil joined the search for the missing teen and broke new ground in the case. He called for a boycott of Aruba and put his own investigators on the trail. Now, two months later, Natalee's mother feels there is a strong chance her daughter is still alive. Hear, for the first time ever, the evidence she reveals to Dr. Phil. Also, learn how effective the boycott is and why a pair of Dr. Phil's rescuers found themselves in need of a rescue.  Plus, Natalee's disappearance bears similarities to the case of another young woman who went missing in the same region. Meet the parents of Amy Bradley and see what strong evidence has them holding onto hope that their daughter is still alive.  Join the discussion.

 

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December 9, 2005, 9:11 pm PST

Aparently no real criminal pass...

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Just wonder if they could find any pattern of behavior of Joran or the others in any other girls they know?. Or if they might tell the story to someone else at some point. The way they described Natalie that time was so crude ,showed they felt kind of entitled. Just strange.and gave me chills . Why did they not have several of her friends come with her in the car too ? Because they wanted to take advantage of the situation and sometimes the simplest answer is the truth. They  knew it was rape and then things went bad somehow. Son of prominent judge screws up and Paulus VDS uses his boat to get rid of the body and cover up for son. They said too much in the beginning that they can't take back. I think what they are doing now is blaming the victim because she's not here to defend herself. (aruban press,etc.) I wouldn't go there if they gave out free tickets . I feel for the honest hard working people there at the hotels, etc. Let them get mad at the perps, not the victim.

However because of Daddy Van D ' Sloot's position it could have been hidden or expunged.  I don't doubt it for a minute.  He does have a reputation for being a little party animal, and drinking too much, and having a lot of sex with whoever he can get, then he brags about it.  This is typical of almost every 17 year old boy,but does this make him a murderer.  

  

But the circumstances surrounding this case are all too weird, and does resemble the botch cases of O.J. and JACKO the WACKO.  But in this case it is the dad pulling the strings, and not so much the authorities botching up the case.  I don't think the authorities here had a case to batch up as it has been so neatly covered up.   

 
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December 16, 2005, 1:17 am PST

Navy guy that Saw Amy

 How hard is it to track down where this Navy guy found Amy and go back there and search for her? I was looking at the picture that Dr. Phil showed on the air, and it looks just like Amy.
 
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December 19, 2005, 5:29 pm PST

Amy Bradley

The picture that Dr. Phil and Amy's parents aired on the show--do we know how old it is? The woman sure does look like Amy! I think she would be about 31 now, correct? I have not been able to get this show out of my mind, and seeing that picture of the woman that could be Amy has awakened new hope in me that her family will be able to find her and bring her back home. 

  

I pray that both Amy and Natalee are still with us and will be found and brought safely home. I cannot even imagine the heartache, frustration and anger that these families, and all families of missing children/adults must feel. Please keep us updated, Dr. Phil. 

 
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December 19, 2005, 9:40 pm PST

Amy and Natalee

 I feel that there should be more shows done on Amy and Natalee's disappearance (along with other missing persons as well). I feel that we need to keep the public informed and keep them from forgetting missing people.
I feel that making the public more aware of there cases would help to find more missing people.
What about posting pictures of these missing people on billboards so people will take more notice? Because not everyone watches tv, listens to the news, reads the news paper, or checks out information like this on the internet.  I just learned about the Amy Bradley case a little over a year ago and she has been missing for approximately 7 years. I happen to turn it on a channel that was airing about missing persons and one being Amy Bradley, this was just by chance that I seen this.
Some how the information, last known whereabouts, and most recent pictures of these people need to be made more public.

We need to get it out there so that there are more chances of finding these missing people.
Something has to be done!
We need to come up with an idea that will get this information out there for more people to see especially in the areas where these people go missing.

I just can't stop thinking "what if that was me?"
I would want to return home and be with my friends and family and catch up on all the things that I missed and I know my parents would be thinking the same. These families of the missing people must be going through hell just wondering if their children (or parents) are okay and wondering if they will ever see them again and the same the the person who is missing.
Maybe we should start feeding some ideas about how to make this more public??
What are your opinions on this??

 
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December 20, 2005, 8:37 am PST

Amy

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 How hard is it to track down where this Navy guy found Amy and go back there and search for her? I was looking at the picture that Dr. Phil showed on the air, and it looks just like Amy.
I read somewhere that by the time the Navy guy reported the incident the brothel had burned down. I hope with all my heart Amy can be found, I think about this case all the time. I can't imagine what her parents are going through and what Amy herself must be going through if she is alive and being held against her will.
 
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December 20, 2005, 5:25 pm PST

Amy, Natalee and other missing persons

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 I feel that there should be more shows done on Amy and Natalee's disappearance (along with other missing persons as well). I feel that we need to keep the public informed and keep them from forgetting missing people.
I feel that making the public more aware of there cases would help to find more missing people.
What about posting pictures of these missing people on billboards so people will take more notice? Because not everyone watches tv, listens to the news, reads the news paper, or checks out information like this on the internet.  I just learned about the Amy Bradley case a little over a year ago and she has been missing for approximately 7 years. I happen to turn it on a channel that was airing about missing persons and one being Amy Bradley, this was just by chance that I seen this.
Some how the information, last known whereabouts, and most recent pictures of these people need to be made more public.

We need to get it out there so that there are more chances of finding these missing people.
Something has to be done!
We need to come up with an idea that will get this information out there for more people to see especially in the areas where these people go missing.

I just can't stop thinking "what if that was me?"
I would want to return home and be with my friends and family and catch up on all the things that I missed and I know my parents would be thinking the same. These families of the missing people must be going through hell just wondering if their children (or parents) are okay and wondering if they will ever see them again and the same the the person who is missing.
Maybe we should start feeding some ideas about how to make this more public??
What are your opinions on this??

I agree. We need to turn the heat up on these stories. Plaster the missing person's pictures all over where they were last seen and any other place where leads are found, and not just when it first happens. Amy might have been rescused long ago if the divers and sailor had seen her picture sooner. It is a tragedy that the ship's captain on the Rhapsody of the Seas did not want to risk upsetting the passengers over a missing person. Amy had only JUST gone missing. She was probably still on the ship and could have been found. I read somewhere that only the common areas and crew's quarters were searched-not every single cabin, and the family did not learn that until later on, when they had already gotten off the ship. If I were a passenger on that cruise, I would have gladly borne the inconvenience of a search and even helped if I could.  

  

I remember hearing about Amy's disappearance way back when it first happened, but then after a few months, the story disappeared from the media. There have been at least a couple of people who saw Amy, and she reached out to them for help, or would have if she had not been prevented from doing so. Clearly she wanted to be rescued and reunited with her family. If she is still alive, I pray she has not given up hope of being found. I pray that she knows that her family have never stopped looking for her, even after all this time, and that there are other people out there who want her to be found and reunited with her family. 

  

The same for Natalee, but Natalee's story seems to be dropping out of the spotlight now, too. That can be a death knell for a missing person's story because it falls out of the public's eye and attention.  

  

There have also been a couple of missing persons from cruiselines this year alone. The newlywed man on the Mediterranean cruise (whom has likely been murdered), and just a week or so ago, a woman from another cruise. How long will their stories be fresh in our minds? 

  

One of the problems with finding people who are missing is the cost involved in following leads. Unfortunately travel and information is not free for would-be rescuers. It would be great if all of the authorities involved cooperated and worked together to find missing people, but obviously that is not the case. 

  

Okay, I've rambled on long enough, I suppose, but yes, I agree. We need to find a way for these stories to stay fresh in people's minds, even as long as almost 8 years or more after someone's disappearance. If Amy and Natalee are still alive, we all owe it to them to keep looking, keep praying and never give up until they are found. Here are some links that may help: 

  

FBI Missing Persons  

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/kidnap/kidmiss.htm]FBI 

  

UK MIssing Persons 

http://www.missingpersons.org/ 

  

Hurricane Katrina Missing Persons 

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2077 

  

Hurricane Katrina Missing Persons Forum 

http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/ 

  

Another 

http://www.nowpublic.com/node/17228 

  

Tsunami Missing Persons 

http://tsunamimissing.blogspot.com/ 

  

Missing Persons Throughout the World 

http://www.mispers.com/ 

  

Obviously that is not all-inclusive, but it may help to bring someone home. 

  

 
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December 23, 2005, 3:14 pm PST

Ty Ritter

Mr. Ritter, 

I can't tell you how much this show touched me.  I wish I could help find the "babies" that you so desperately want to bring home.  I bless and pray for all of you each night.  There is a song that I would like to share with you.  It is by the group called Mercy Me.  The song is on the "Almost There" cd and is called "Here Am I."   You have, undeniably, been chosen to do His work.  You have gone to foreign lands and to the ends of the earth for this cause.  You have my admiration and my thanks.  There is another song that has struck me so.  It is on the same album and is called "I Can Only Imagine."  You need a soft place to fall, I'm sure, at times.  You are dealing in a very disturbing and harsh reality.  I hope that you find comfort in their music and find it an inspiration.  My prayers to you all. 

  

Mary 

 
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December 25, 2005, 7:06 am PST

Missing Natalie Halloway & Amy Bradley

25 Dec 05 

  

Merry Christmas to everyone and Happy New Year 2006 coming! 

  

A special prayer for all those that are missing from their families over this day of Christ being born.  We pray that Miss Natalie Halloway and Miss Amy Bradley can be with their families.  That whom so ever knows anything about these two cases come foward and give the gift of life by joining these two loved ones with their dear families over the holidays!   May there be light in the darkness and joy come to these families on their girls safe trip home.  I can only hope this prayer touches anyone that can help find these two women and share the good will of life.   

 

To think over 2005 years ago there was a star shining for the birth of Jesus.  I can only hope and pray that there is a star that shines for the missing people on earth.  I pray for the families and for the many blessing of life that Jesus gives us.  Always have the faith, to belief in God's will and to know that our prayers are with you everyday in our hearts!  

 

I say to those who know what happened to these women, to seek redemption, to do the right thing and call authorities and bring these women back to their families now!  

 

In the name of Jesus, I pray that it happens and everyone on earth can live in peace!  

 

A-MEN! 

 
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December 27, 2005, 11:03 pm PST

How Dare He!

Speaking to Diario Newspapers, Joran Van Der Sloot said he would have sued Dr. Phil for damages had he been in Deepak's position. It is unclear if Joran has kissed and made up with the Kalpoe Brothers. Joran, who has been carrying a low profile since returning to Aruba, said he enjoyed spending christmas with his family and believes the Aruban boycott is unjustified. Sources say Joran has been offered protection by the Government of Aruba to ensure his safety. - http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com
 
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January 23, 2006, 8:22 am PST

Lost in the posturing

It seems to me that the missing person Natalee has gotten lost in the politics and press releases.  

  

On one hand you have the island's paid "spokesperson" going on about what's "expected' to be done and seemingly not much is being done. The good point he made though is the island is bound btyDUTCH law not American. 

  

Then you have mom's lawyer with his lock em all up(suspects and witness's alike) till they give you answers.  How would that wash in L.A. or NewYork ?  We think you're a witness so were holding you till you talk come on get real here. The ACLU and every  ambulance chasing lawyer would be filing motions and lawsuits from coast to coast. 

  

Dr Phil these two will never work together because it's obvious both are more interested in their own agenda's than Natalee and her family. 

  

Maybe just as a final comment, people just have to realise that the law of the land where you are applies not  necessarily the law of your homeland.  You go to places such as Aruba or Mexico or less developed nations you get their level of protection . 

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