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Topic : 11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:33:38 am
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Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared early last summer during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. On a recent show, Dr. Phil joined the search for the missing teen and broke new ground in the case. He called for a boycott of Aruba and put his own investigators on the trail. Now, two months later, Natalee's mother feels there is a strong chance her daughter is still alive. Hear, for the first time ever, the evidence she reveals to Dr. Phil. Also, learn how effective the boycott is and why a pair of Dr. Phil's rescuers found themselves in need of a rescue.  Plus, Natalee's disappearance bears similarities to the case of another young woman who went missing in the same region. Meet the parents of Amy Bradley and see what strong evidence has them holding onto hope that their daughter is still alive.  Join the discussion.

 

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November 18, 2005, 12:46 am PST

ASHAMED OF MY SHIP MATE.

I am a woman in the U.S. Navy who is so ashamed that the man who left  Amy in that situation is part of my Navy. If he would have taken her with him or even just reported the situation the only punishment he would have recived is a two week ship restriction! Can you believe that? To be honest with you, he probably would not have recieved any level of punishment in the event that he could have saved her from a tremendous amount of torture not to mention her life, the navy would not have punished him. He should be dishonorably discharged for not fulfilling the oath he took to protect  Americans.  All that Amy has endured since his point of contact with her rests on his hands.  

 
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November 18, 2005, 1:50 am PST

Aruba

For those of you writing from Aruba and saying how upset you are that we would boycott your country, etc. please realize things are not as nice there as you would like to think.  When we live in a country, the nasty underground things are often hidden from us.  It is only when an atrocity occurs that our eyes are opened. 

  

Someone mentioned the Red Light District of Aruba and how the girls are seen by drs., blah blah blah.  No one was talking about the "legal" sex for sale in Aruba.  Everything that was mentioned on the boards or on the show today was about the illegal sex trade going on in that area of the world.  Does it happen just in Aruba?  Heck, no.  It happens all over the world.  Could it be happening in the U.S.?  Possibly.   

  

Please understand that the U.S. is a nation of people wanting to help Beth and do anything we can to find Natalee (and Amy).  The only thing we can do is to spend our money elsewhere...so that's what will happen until Natalee and Amy show up at home. 

  

Jenn 

 
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November 18, 2005, 2:20 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Dr. Phil, 

  

I am giving you this information in hopes it may help you in the investigation for Natalee Holloway and Amy Bradley.  Or any other female taken and placed in the sex slave market/trafficking. 

  

A young man I have spoken to, from Aruba, told me that it is very easy to get into Venezuela from Aruba by boat without anyone knowing.  Also, that all you have to do is pay someone off to get into Venezuela without question.  Can get ID and Passports in the same manner.  He has friends that help him get into Venezuela all the time.  They go their to party, fish or what ever. He said that Natalee is no longer on the island of Aruba and claims she would be in Venezuela and probably sold there.  It sounded like to me he was saying she went there on her own and got into trouble.  But then again, reading between the lines, she may of been taken there and sold.  He get's a little upset when we talk about Natalee Holloway as the tension in Aruba with American's right now is thick. 

  

Also, someone else I talk with, from Aruba, stated that if Natalee Holloway was taken to South America, the only place they can truly take her and hide her without ever being found would be Paraguay.  I asked how was that, and the comment in reply was that, "it is where all organized criminals and Nazi's go to hide and are never found".  Then that person left shortly after stateing this to me in a private message.  I talk with this person often and find the person legit.  This person lives and works on Aruba with law officials it seems from the way this person talks. 

  

I tell you this because it may be another venue to look for Natalee Holloway.  I have a gut feeling Natalee was taken out of Aruba and in South America very deep in the forest where most people don't dare to go. 

i suggest if you have this kind of info (the kind that you imply that you have), that you provide some information to the authorities. Why would you have this info and not act upon it? I have to wonder if you are not just someone blowing hot air. i must wonder if you know the ramifications of your alligations. if they are in fact true, then do the right thing and talk to the authorities. 

                                                                     a concerned mom that hopes Natalie come home. 

 
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November 18, 2005, 2:27 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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That picture looks like the girl who works in the nightspot frequented by underworld type persons named Cuko's. This place is not open at a regular basis. You can find it in Salinja next to the Vandis Gas station and next to Sunshine Car wash in Curacao 

Please contact authorities!
 
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November 18, 2005, 2:39 am PST

additional search strategies

I lived in Taiwan for a total of 7 years. I would suggest using the expatriate communities overseas because they have inside info on the prostitution scene. Many expat communities have websites and chatrooms/message boards. Also, when cable TV first came to Taiwan (around 1995?), I remember seeing a sickening Japanese porn film of a blonde haired woman with clips pinching her entire body and a Japanese man. It didn't look like she was acting. So I also suggest looking into Asia where blonde hair and blue eyes are highly sought after, and in the porn film industry there. Men who see prostitutes are selfish and don't want to consider if the women they are using have been forced into the work or not. This would be something worthwhile to address on your show as well.
 
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November 18, 2005, 2:46 am PST

Ty Ritter

God Bless Ty Ritter.  What an amazing man with a heart of gold.
 
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November 18, 2005, 4:19 am PST

Root Problem

The cause of all of this pain and horror is SIN! 

That is:  the seperation of a person from the direction of his/her Creator. This seperation plunges the person into deeper and deeper spiritual darkness. Because sexuality is an integral part of our spiritual connection to one another, it is one of the first places that is affected by this division from all that is good and holy. Over time the person becomes increasingly depraved, perpetrating increasingly wicked acts. It leads to such debauchery as the child sex trade (including the filming of rape, torture, murder and necrophilia, known as "snuff" films). Unfortunately we all pay the wages for these sins, particularily children, ours and theirs. 

The cure? Reconciliation of ourselves to our true purpose as set out by God (whichever name you use for him/her).  

All else is like a band-aid on a large festering wound. 

My heart is with the families of both girls and all those who grieve for their missing ones. My prayer is that you will find a measure of peace in all this sadness. God bless you always. 

 
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November 18, 2005, 4:39 am PST

There answer is to not have any children

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I HEARD THE MOST DISTURBING THING I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE TODAY ON THE SHOW.  JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I COULDN'T THINK ANY WORSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THIS WORLD AND HOW DANGEROUS THIS WORLD IS BECOMING FOR OUR CHILDREN... 

  

...I HAVE A 19 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND I DON'T WANT HER TO HAVE CHILDREN...I TRY TO BE POSITIVE BUT AFTER WHAT I HEARD TODAY I AM IRREVERSIBLY JADED. 

  

I LOGGED ONTO WWW.FAMILYWATCHDOG.US AFTER OPRAH TALKED ABOUT THAT SITE A WHILE AGO ON HER SHOW.  IT SHOWS ADDRESSES OF REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS.  I AM FROM CANADA SO I TYPED IN THE ADDRESS OF THE WEBSITE ITSELF DISPLAYED AT THE BOTTOM OF THEIR HOMEPAGE...66 SEX OFFENDERS WITHIN A FEW MILES RADIUS OF THE FAMILYWATCHDOG.US'S OWN HEADQUARTERS.  I REALIZED IN THAT MOMENT THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS ISSUE OF OUR CHILDRENS SAFETY...WHO CAN YOU TRUST???? NO ONE...LIKE OPRAH SAID...PEOPLE WHO MEAN YOUR CHILDREN HARM ARE GENERALLY GOING TO BE NICE TO YOU...WE HAVE BECOME A SOCIETY THAT CAN'T TRUST ANYONE...ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING NICE TO US...HOW DO WE RAISE A CHILD IN THIS??????  MY HEART IS BROKEN...IT IS BROKEN FOREVER FOR MY CHILDREN AND THEIRS AND THEIRS AND THEIRS IF THIS GOD FORSAKEN WORLD LASTS THAT LONG.   

OPRAH CALLS IT "THE DEFINITION OF EVIL"  WHAT THE HELL ELSE COULD IT BE?  I CRIED HARDER TODAY THAN I HAVE IN A LONG LONG TIME.   

  

THERE IS NO EMOTICON THAT COULD DEMONSTRATE MY EMOTION TODAY...I DONT' EVEN THINK I'VE EVER FELT THIS EMOTION BEFORE SO I DONT' KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT . 

None of my grown kids has any children. They have all purposely decided not to add more misery to the earth. Life has become so cheap over the last 30 years. There are no guarantees "your" children are going to be safe. No matter how powerfully protective "your" hormones make you feel, the facts are that all  children will be exposed to some degree of exploitation and danger in their lives now. Whether that exploitation comes from clothes, entertainment, music, or travel, there is a lot of money to be made in revving up your and my child's sexual feelings. Life is cheap, cheap, cheap. and no one has any respect for it anymore. 

  

All we have to do is look at the medical industry. These people are in the FLESH TRADE for the big bucks as well. There isn't any real difference when you look at it, and we are all prey to doctors, nurses and hospitals who might have a selfish reason to harm us. 

  

See this website.  

  

http://mashcan.org/ 

 
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November 18, 2005, 4:42 am PST

boycott is not the sollution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear dr phil, 

  

normally I really like watching your shows and when I saw that your show was going to be about nathalee, I was deperate to see it. At the moment I am doing an internship at Aruba (I study law in the Netherlands) and I followed the case ever since it started. I think it is great that you try to help the family with investigating all options and especially the sex slave industry (because I believe that is a more realistic place to look, than murder) but I was shocked to hear you say one again that all americans should boycot aruba, that is total bullshit!!!!! Just because one rich american girl went missing here and the police was not quick enough in finding her, everyone should boycot aruba? Of course mistakes were made, but this is just an absurd statement!!! In america, hundreds of people get killed every year en hundreds of black girls for example disappear every year without the police doing very much to find them. Does that mean that everyone should boycot the US, because it is such a dangerous place and because the police isn't doing its job either? NO!! Dutch girls went missing abroad in countries were the police forces were not that cooperative, but our government never made a declaration on tv that we should boycot those countries, of course not, because that doesn't make sense!! I do feel sorry for the family of nathalee and of course I hope that she is ok, but I strongly believe that this case gets so much attention because her mother is just overwhelming the media. There are so much girls missing, why just focus on this one? I hope that she will be found soon and alive, but please stop blaming and punishing the people of aruba, who can do nothing about it!!!! It is a great island, that people should keep visiting!!!! 

  

 
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November 18, 2005, 4:47 am PST

Getting Natalie Back

 
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There is only one way that you will find out for sure if Natalie is in the situation that you claim.

Let me explain how you can make it happen:

There are alot of ex US Army soldiers or Marines that are from Central America. Hire 4 or 5 of them to go back to Venezuela or wherever and search for Natalie. They will blend in alot better than us gringos, they speak the language and know the territory. Equip them with silenced 9 Mills for thier own protection and if they find her they can use them to help get her out.

I suggest using ex-military because we are very nicely trained with 9 mills, and other weapons.

Also...Please be aware that if Natalie is still alive, the people who have her would know that you are looking for her. That puts you and your family in danger. I am sure they would be monitoring this web-site also.
 
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