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Topic : 11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:33:38 am
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Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared early last summer during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. On a recent show, Dr. Phil joined the search for the missing teen and broke new ground in the case. He called for a boycott of Aruba and put his own investigators on the trail. Now, two months later, Natalee's mother feels there is a strong chance her daughter is still alive. Hear, for the first time ever, the evidence she reveals to Dr. Phil. Also, learn how effective the boycott is and why a pair of Dr. Phil's rescuers found themselves in need of a rescue.  Plus, Natalee's disappearance bears similarities to the case of another young woman who went missing in the same region. Meet the parents of Amy Bradley and see what strong evidence has them holding onto hope that their daughter is still alive.  Join the discussion.

 

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April 16, 2006, 7:32 am PDT

Recent Trip to Aruba

I am an avid viewer of Dr. Phil & a mother of 4 children.  Recently, my husband and I went on a cruise that had Aruba as one of its ports-of-call.  Having watched with baited breath all of the Natalee Holloway stories and interviews, I was troubled that we would be stopping there--wanting to follow through with the boycott.  However, I figured that since I WAS going to be there, I would make the most out of it and be yet another pair of eyes looking out for this dear child and another set of lips reminding the people that we have NOT forgotten her.

My husband & I booked an all-day excursion that included extensive touring of the Northern side of the island in Landrovers--going through the dunes where the latest news has said that there have been leads to her location there.  The whole day was shrouded in an errie feeling.  Although the weather was hot and the island arid, that notorious wind was blowing a mournful feeling across the island.  I could not think of anything else.  As a mother, my heart panged for poor Ms Twitty and her anguish for the uncertainty of her daughter's wherabouts.

While touring the dunes past the Calafornia lighthouse and near the goldmine fort, we saw a helicopter with the supposed "Dutch men" searching the shores for Natalee.  The were about 10 feet above the ground with various long poles protrouding from the rocks that they flew back and forth towards--obviously as some markers of where they have been.  I have quite a few picture of this--as a reminder to myself and anyone else that sees my vacation photos--of the determination of a parent's love. 

We got out of the Landrovers at the mine site and I was struck by the "rock formations" that have been placed all over the island near the shores.  I asked our tour guide what they were.  They seemed to be just various rocks stacked in different piles...but hundreds and hundreds of them!  The guide said "case of 'monkey see, monkey do,' but some call them the wishing garden.  Visitors stack a pile of rocks and leave their wishes with them."  I followed suit and found scattered rocks at the natural pool and built a "wish" for Natalee...and wrote on the side of a black rock with a lighter one "we have not forgotten you Natalee."

There was a vendor at the goldmine selling t-shirts, bags and sodas out of his van to tourists.  As the helicopters approached the stretch of beach near this spot, he and his wife waved their hands at them in disgust and said "go home, go home!"  I was appaulled.  This is the sort of thing that the American people should know about when they hear of Aruba and their claim to be "One Happy Island."  Happy as long as no one raises any questions!

Their were four other tourists with us on this land-tour that day (March 31, 2006) who had been staying on the island all week.  They said that they had heard all sorts of talk from the locals.  When our guide heard us talking about it he said with a certainty of voice and knowing look "she is not on the island anymore."  We inquired more into his theory and he commented that "the girl had over $10,000 cash on her and was spending money all over town.  All of her things were left behind in her hotel room.  She was running away.  Venezuela is only 17 miles away."  I was not convinced of this whatsoever.  However, having toured the entire island myself and seen the raging waves of the waters hitting that Northern coast, my heart tells me that it would not take much at all to carry someone away into the sea...either by accidental misstep, or by dubious murder. 

My thoughts and prayers are with this family.  I just wanted to write and say that although I did not boycott Aruba, I took the opportunity to be yet another reminder that we have not stopped looking.  God Bless!

 
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April 25, 2006, 10:37 pm PDT

I'm a survivor of Human Trafficking

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I'm truly concerned about Natalee and her well being.  How sad and frustrated her family must be.  Her mother has got to be the most courageous person I have ever seen.  This is someone who is putting everything out there to find her precious daughter.  She has stood up to the Arubian government and their officials to try and get answers and find her daughter!  Why can't Pres. Bush step in and help this family find their daughter.  We had the military find Saddam; let's get their help and assistance to find Natalee as well as the other girls who may be held against their will in sex slavery.  Donny Deutsch's show "The Big Idea"  on MSNBC just did a show on this very subject and had a young girl tell of the horror's of being kidnapped and sold into the world of sex slavery.  She REALLY believes that that's what happened to Natalee.  This young girl was extremely lucky to have escaped.  If a young girl just "THINKS" about being let go, she is beaten to death in front of the other girls.  How sick is this?!!!  Let's hope and pray that in time Natalee can be found and find peace again with her family.   

Hi there,

I saw your post and I had to respond.  I was the girl on the show with Donny Deustch and I've been following the Natalee's story since the beginning.  I just want to say as a survivor, I'm very pleased to see that people are getting involved to do something about it.  I don't know what else to say, but thank you for hearing my story and I just want to let you know that if you have any questions, you can e-mail me or look on my profile.

Many blessings!
Kim
 
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May 9, 2006, 6:37 am PDT

Prayer-chain

Hello everybody that read this message! 

  

Today this show about Amy and Natalie was aired in Norway, halve a year after it was showed in US. Still it moved me a lot. As a prayer- women and a christian, I would like to make a prayer- chain for these to girls and other that have been kidnapped and are kept captives as sex-slaves. In Norway (a small country with only 4,6 mill. inhb.) this is a big problem too, and many african and east- European girls are sold as sex- slaves here.  

  

The Bible says that we shall ask spesificly about things (pray), and I want all of you Gods Children to pray for detailed things in this matter. 

  

Pray for: 

  

- that the police shall open their eyes for theese two cases and recieve a supernatural strenght and motivation to work with them 

- that the government and police in Aruba and areas around shall break down the liga that are responsible for theese actions, and find theese two girls alive 

-that the girls will maintain their healthy mind and self-awareness, so that they not shall become robots in the hands of the criminals, and that they will manage to break their bonds to their abusers and escape. 

-strenght and options to escape 

-Gods mercy for theese two girls 

-angels to protect them daily until they are found 

  

In God ONLY, there is hope. 

  

Give this prayer-chain to all your sisters and brothers in Christ, and things WILL happen! Don't loose your faith. 

  

With Love,  

  

Liz 

  

  

  

  

  

 
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May 24, 2006, 7:46 am PDT

WHERE IS DR. PHIL

  

Can someone tell me if Dr. Phil is still working on Natalee Hoolloway?  He said he was going all the way with this.  I haven't heard anything in months.  I think we owe it to the familes to email Dr. Phil and make him hold up his end of the promise he made.  I know i'm boycotting Aruba and holding up my promise.  So whats up Dr. Phil?????????  Did you give up like everyone in Aruba and in our own country???? 

 
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May 24, 2006, 6:37 pm PDT

what has government done????

i watched the show in november and still wonder to this day,why hasn't the story of this sex slave trade appeared on the front of magazines or newspapers-or been the topic of top news shows???...it is people selling,buying and killing...it is just so unbelievable to me that this was discussed without any comments from news shows of any kind(even the rag mags)..when the story of how those business men bought girls,shot them in the forehead and had sex with them while they were dying aired i got very sick-this is beyond criminal and sick-what is being done to find these rich,wealthy sick people who do this????...this story was worse than any horror movie i ever saw-we are at war in the middle east and this behavior is allowed to go on????....i still can't get over that these people are out there getting away with this...frisco
 
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June 16, 2006, 4:08 am PDT

Search for Amy

 We finally saw the Achive Show here in Switzerland yesterday about the Search for Natalee and Amy. Does anyone have an update on any of these searches? What about the picture that Dr. Phil showed of Amy? Was it her or a hoax? I hope he is still trying to search for these young women. They are in all of our prayers.
 
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July 7, 2006, 10:34 pm PDT

oh please

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this REALLY MAKES FOR A NICE STORY, EVEN A MAKE FOR TV MOVIE. 

  

IN REGARDS TO YOUNG WOMEN BEING FORCED INTO THE SEX TRADE AND SOLD AS SLAVES HERE IN ARUBA IS COMPLETELY LUDICROUS.  There are so many beautiful Latin American ladies and young girls that would do anything to get off the streets from mostly Colombia and get the Visa necessary to work as a legal prostitute here on the island for 3 months.  In the ABC islands and the rest of the Dutch Kingdom and Holland, and quite a few states in the US this is legal.  Here on the island the rules are a little more strict than mainland Holland, but you need to pass all the necessary exams and if selected for a Visa and this 3 months permit you are only permitted to work in a specific Red District Bar which all of them are at one end of the island by the ex Exxon Refinery, now a Valera one, .  These ladies are checked every week by the doctors and need to leave the island in 3 mo. when their permits expire. 

  

Now to say that Nathalee was abducted in Aruba and be sold into sex trade is not true.   It is my personal believe that the Dutch boy and the tree Surinamese brothers are responsible for her being missing.  But in any case the sex trade is very much regulated and very  sought after by LA girls mostly Colombians and Venezuelans,    .  Now if you open any yellow pages in the US you will see many massage parlors with drug addicts prostituting and spreading VD's UN regulated. 

  

That is why I say the comment by Mr. Sherlock 007 here will make for a good story, which he will find right in his back yard. 

  

Dr. Phil please be objective in your pursuit of  Nathalee and or ratings.  I hope, and everyone in Aruba wants this case to be solved.  You do not need to destroy a whole island nation doing that. 

It is not fair for anyone involved or not. 

Oh please.  Aruba is one of the places that is middle ground for transporting illegal activity such as drugs, so why not potential victims as a sex slave.  The fact of the matter is Human Trafficking exists in this world.  People will travel and pay to have sex legitamately with young women and children.  In America it is not legal for prostition (except in parts of nevada).   The unfortunate thing is  "sex sells".  People will pay for it.  Take this under consideration as well:  Who wants to grow up and be a prostitute.  i doubt people aspire to do this.  That is what men (and some women) should take under consideration when comments are made similiar to yours Not in Aruba.  You can easily access other islands via the water from Aruba.  Don't discount that because this is fact.  I am not saying that Arubians did not help in the case with Natalae.  I think we are angry at the way your government handled the investigation.     
 
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July 7, 2006, 10:45 pm PDT

i agree

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I believe I saw another Dr Phil show (not related to this topic) where Dr Phil said he did not believe in psychics because of a lack of scientific evidence to support their abilities.   

  

However, this was quite some time ago so his view may have changed.   

  

I know a few other posters have mentioned this alternative.  I wonder if that is something Beth has ever considered or has done? 

i was wondeing about psychics being used as well.  John Edward is suppose to great with connecting witht he dead etc.  I believe that Allyson Dubois is assisting with Natalee's case but the Holloways' do not believe in psychics.  Well, this is my thought.  It certainly would not hurt to try.  There are psychis who are good and do not charge for their services in missing person cases.  Like anything else in life get references.  I pray that both Natalee and Amy have a safe return.  I have been following both cases since the beginning.  No offense to Dr. Phil but some people do not believe in psychiatrists or psychologists either.  Some people do.  Some people believe in psychics and some do not.  Can't hurt in trying. 
 
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July 11, 2006, 9:37 am PDT

Nice People in Aruba?

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this REALLY MAKES FOR A NICE STORY, EVEN A MAKE FOR TV MOVIE. 

  

IN REGARDS TO YOUNG WOMEN BEING FORCED INTO THE SEX TRADE AND SOLD AS SLAVES HERE IN ARUBA IS COMPLETELY LUDICROUS.  There are so many beautiful Latin American ladies and young girls that would do anything to get off the streets from mostly Colombia and get the Visa necessary to work as a legal prostitute here on the island for 3 months.  In the ABC islands and the rest of the Dutch Kingdom and Holland, and quite a few states in the US this is legal.  Here on the island the rules are a little more strict than mainland Holland, but you need to pass all the necessary exams and if selected for a Visa and this 3 months permit you are only permitted to work in a specific Red District Bar which all of them are at one end of the island by the ex Exxon Refinery, now a Valera one, .  These ladies are checked every week by the doctors and need to leave the island in 3 mo. when their permits expire. 

  

Now to say that Nathalee was abducted in Aruba and be sold into sex trade is not true.   It is my personal believe that the Dutch boy and the tree Surinamese brothers are responsible for her being missing.  But in any case the sex trade is very much regulated and very  sought after by LA girls mostly Colombians and Venezuelans,    .  Now if you open any yellow pages in the US you will see many massage parlors with drug addicts prostituting and spreading VD's UN regulated. 

  

That is why I say the comment by Mr. Sherlock 007 here will make for a good story, which he will find right in his back yard. 

  

Dr. Phil please be objective in your pursuit of  Nathalee and or ratings.  I hope, and everyone in Aruba wants this case to be solved.  You do not need to destroy a whole island nation doing that. 

It is not fair for anyone involved or not. 

If you are a spokes person for Aruba, then I would rather not go there and pay my American Dollars to your port.  I really Love your quote "Really Makes For a Nice Story, Even A make For T.V. Movie."  

Amy Bradley happens to be my cousin.  This family is grieving for Amy!  No one has profited from this tragedy.  You do not know her Mom and Dad and how they have suffered over this.  You are a cruel hearted human being.  Do you know how Natalie's family have suffered?    

My prayer is this that you and your family never has to go through what Amy's parents or Natalie's parents are going through.  That you will not have to suffer pain so unimaginable in your heart.  Or suffer by being kidnapped from your family and sold in the perverseness of people who don't care about your well being only about how much money your body can bring to them.  Many of these women are tortured and killed in such cruel ways.  It is not Aruban people in general it is about a few people who are cruel and mean.  So watch what you are saying when you talk about real lives.  We want Amy back home..................We want Natalie back home with her family...........................We want all the people sold in this perverseness home with the ones who love them.  

Thank you  

 
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July 21, 2006, 9:12 am PDT

I WiLL DO ANYTHING

 

FINDing NATALEE is not just about finding her, but finding HOPE! 

 

i have been searching the internet for tons of sites that might get me closer to finding natalee - i might even have gotten several viruses from enter sites like that, but that does not matter - finding NATALEE is much more important. 

 

doing the show i was terrified, worried, scared, sad, angry - feelings i've never had before, and it has created an emptiness- i want to help out finding her.  

 

let me know if there is anything i can do.?  

 

Please let me know how things are going on the hunt for NATALEE! 

BEST WISHES FROM DENMARK! 

 

 

 
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