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Created on : Friday, November 11, 2005, 05:35:34 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/18/05) Too many of us have that one family member whose rude, crude, obnoxious behavior gets under our skin and annoys us to death. Krista and Kim are sisters married to two brothers who they say are the most annoying husbands on the planet! They talk loudly, make inappropriate sexual comments and take pride in their bodily functions. See what happens when Dr. Phil turns the tables, and these guys get a taste of their own medicine. Then, Becky's daughter and sister say she has a mouth like a sailor and is always embarrassing them. Becky says she's just opinionated, honest and blunt. Will Becky learn to see their point of view and clean up her act? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 18, 2005, 10:21 pm PST

11/18 "My Annoying Family"

Quote From: mbrian

I feel that Becky has a lot to hide and that is why she acts out. She doesn't seem to like who she is so she portrays herself as someone else. As I sat watching the show, I could only imagine that when she is in a room all by herself that she is a very lonely person. If you noticed her eyes at the end of the show she was almost in tears. Was it because of her behavior or she was finally hearing what others had to say about her behavior. No matter what she says, she does care about what other people say about her. She wouldn't be human if it didn't bother her.

From my observation, Becky had a SPARKLE in her eyes for the whole show.  I noticed it immediately.  I commented on it to my husband and he agreed that she has a beautiful sparkle to her eyes.  I've only seen that from people who are lit up with LIFE.  I just had corrective eye surgery less than two weeks ago and I am very familiar with eyes and tearing.  It seems odd that there could be so much glisten in both eyes for that long without a tear dropping if in fact she was on the verge of tears.  I don't think she was. 

  

As for being lonely, this is obviously a guess but since I am a lot like Becky, I'm willing to bet someone that witty and intelligent doesn't feel lonely very often. 

 
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November 18, 2005, 10:26 pm PST

I can totally relate!!!

I can totally related to the married couple on todays show. I've been married for five years to an amazing man but his habits can get to me. To be totally honest, I thought all MEN peed in the shower! Even though it's disgusting......its all going to the same place, well that's his excuse. (lol)  

  

Krista and Kim, consider yourself luck, think about all the shows that Dr. Phil does on a day to day basis (cheating, divorce and unhappy)...........picking and peeing is really not big of a deal. I'm not saying your husbands are right but it's a drill knowing that my husband is not the only with "unique" tendency! 

  

    Flakka1626 

Queens, New York 

 
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November 18, 2005, 10:34 pm PST

11/18 "My Annoying Family"

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It's gonna hurt like hell when you fall off that high horse 

Hugs & kisses Becky 

ROFLMAO 

  

/hugs Becky 

 
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November 18, 2005, 10:50 pm PST

Sick of excuses

As I'm reading more of these posts, I'm seeing more and more of a similar ideology.  Basically along the lines that Becky is the way she is because of something else.  Why does there have to be an excuse for her behavior that just so happens to go against the grain of a few people?  Why can't it be simply her CHOICE because it makes her happy?  There are too many posts that are basically saying, "She's not like us.  Something must have happened to her.  Something must be wrong with her."   

  

I'm really sick of the excuse or victim mentality!  Get over yourselves and learn to recognize a choice. 

 
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November 18, 2005, 11:09 pm PST

becky

Ok dear, I am not a bible-beater, uptight conservative. What I am in fact is a hockey mom for the last 10 years, I've volunteered with my son's and brother's teams for the last 20 years and been around hockey players all my life, dealing with players from 6 yrs old to 60plus. I've heard all kinds of stuff coming out of the locker rooms and hallways and I've developed a fairly thick skin. Some of your behavior was offensive, take that as a strong hint if you can offend a hockey mom ;-) 

  

Now with that said, I don't believe being fun-loving and boisterous is a problem unless it hurts other people, calling your son in law a P...y in front of friends and family was way over the line. Just gear it down a bit eh? Loud and rowdy in a bar is one thing, loud rowdy and obnoxious to the people that love you is another. Keep it appropriate to the situation and you'll be in good shape :-) 

  

Good god I hope none of my son's teammates were watching or its going to be a hell of a year yikes! 

 
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November 19, 2005, 12:56 am PST

Let's go over the sex crimes battery definition again

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Note you 243.4 states is for the purpose of sexual arousal, sexual
gratification, or sexual abuse,
Grabbing the mother in law's crotch was for NONE of those reasons.

  

So, you missed the definition by law of sexual battery and you intentionally omitted the most 

important points.  For being so tough, so brazen, so hot-shot, so truthful...you certainly are 

quite the coward.  (By the way, I'm a woman violent crime victim who single-handedly  

changed California law for violent crime victims in California, and I don't tolerate predators, 

female or male. I don't really care what low-life excuse you give. I'd grind you into the ground so fast you wouldn't know what hit you.)   

 

Let's repeat the lesson for those who weren't paying attention the first time about SEXUAL BATTERY: 

 

1) Anyone [that includes females like Becky]  who touches the intimitate part  [that includes a person's crotch] of another person [that includes Becky's mother-in-law]; 

 

2) And the touching is against the will of the person touched [that means if your mother-in-law 

didn't want you touching her crotch it was against her will to have you lay your hands on her 

private parts,including crotch] 

 

3)  While that person [Becky's mother-in-law] is unlawfully restrained 

 

4)  including for the purpose of sexual abuse [that's for the police, prosecutors and a jury to 

decide and I don't think a jury would have any problem giving a "guilty" verdict on this kind of 

conduct] 

 

5) is guility of sexual battery. 

 

As the famous sex crimes prosecutor/attorney/author/child advocate Andrew Vachss says 

about " [ men and women] sexual predators they aren't just sick, but sickening."  Becky's response isn't just sick, but SICKENING...and her conduct is an arrestable, prosecutable, offense.   

 

We build jails and prisons for men and women sexual predators...who think that the world 

is for their taking, and that all of us are to be used and abused...because they (including  

Becky) feel like it!  We don't have to convince Becky to do the right thing; we only have to 

convince a jury that she did the wrong thing!  

 

Perhaps, before being on the Dr. Phil show, you should have talked to a criminal defense attorney.  Since you announced on national television what you did to your mother-in-law (i.e. grabbing her crotch), you do realize that if you ever touch somebody's private parts again, and they don't want you to (sexual battery) , that the tape of your statement on Dr. Phil can be used against you in a court of law?  That's called giving the prosecution enough rope to hang you! 

 

Does your fun and games include jail and/or prison time?  Does your fun and games include being marked as a sexual predator for life, including on the Megan's List of registered sex offenders, having your career hurt, reputation ruined, etc.?  And once you're marked as a sexual predator..you're legally not allowed to have kids around you (no parties, no holidays with family, 

friends and neighbors), etc. 

 

You're absolutely right: You don't have to voluntarily straighten up and fly right.  We have police, prosecutors, juries, judges, prisons and jails to do just that for people who have ZERO boundaries.  Your family may enable, the rest of society, thankfully, won't.   

 

And somehow, I just don't think you'd like it if some man grabbed your crotch.  You expect to treat other people like trash, when you would be completely offended and outraged if somebody did the same to you.   

  

  

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Dear Becky's relative,  

   

I don't get why you stand for an iota of Becky's behavior -- any of you?  If she was one of my relatives I'd practice "tough love" on her; and trust me I've practiced it on some of my own relatives.  Such as,  

"You're not invited to the party because you hurt people, everybody is angry with you, you are embarrassing.  We accept that you choose to conduct yourself that way. We don't feel, however, like  

being around you any more since you've choosing to conduct yourself this way. We want to have a nice party; you don't make it a nice party.  Therefore, you're not invited to this party."   Strip Becky of her privileges, just like a kid.  Trust me, she'll change her ways, just like a kid!  Let her WORK to  

get back in your good graces.  

   

I don't know what state you and Becky live in, but here in California grabbing somebody's crotch,  

as I read in the transcript of Dr. Phil's questioning of her, Becky grabbed her mother-in-law's crotch,  

is a crime in this state, and many others, and it's called: Felony sexual battery.  It doesn't matter if  

you're a man or a woman who commits this offense; if you do it -- you've broken the law and can  

be arrested, booked, jailed, and prosecuted for sex crimes!    

   

According to Becky and Dr. Phil, Becky grabbed her mother-in-law's crotch and told her that she  

should grow some br***sts.  Besides being completely horrifying and unacceptable, it's against the law in most states. [read the transcript of Dr. Phil's interview with Becky.  

   

What are you people thinking?  Why haven't you folks turned her into police, had the mother-in-law write up a police report, and had the witnesses write up police reports?    

   

And if Becky did this in front of me, in California, I'd call 9-1-1 so fast on her, and have her arrested  

for alleged sexual battery, that she wouldn't know what hit her.  If Becky doesn't want to face  

arrest and prosecution she should keep her hands to herself!!!  

   

Here's California's penal code on sexual battery. [Note: Why don't you call your District Attorney's  

office's sex crimes unit and ask them to read the applicable laws about sexual battery in your area.  

  

from www.findlaw.com  

   

  

243.4.  (a) Any person who touches an intimate part of another
person while that person is unlawfully restrained by the accused or
an accomplice, and if the touching is against the will of the person
touched and is for the purpose of sexual arousal, sexual
gratification, or sexual abuse, is guilty of sexual battery.  A
violation of this subdivision is punishable by imprisonment in a
county jail for not more than one year, and by a fine not exceeding
two thousand dollars ($2,000); or by imprisonment in the state prison
for two, three, or four years, and by a fine not exceeding ten
thousand dollars ($10,000).
  

 
 
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November 19, 2005, 2:23 am PST

Your 180 Degree change; Becky should listen

Quote From: rebeccalou

 Dr. Phil: I feel that you could have hit that obnoxious woman with a tad more reality. Of course she was hiding behind a huge defence! i have been there and done that. Whether she wants to change her ABUSIVE behaviour or not is irrelevant, she needs to know that she is putting her own needs and feelings ahead of her children and everyone else in the family. She also needs to be aware of the fact that if she isn't willing to be "real " and vulnerable, it has consequences, that could be catastrophic, eventually her family could and probably will make a decision to not have her around. Yes she has choices, but so do they, and they may exercise them. I hid behind being outspoken and sarcastic for years, not nearly as nasty as she was,  but as soon as i had consious knowledge of what it was doing to others, i stopped cold turkey. I valued my children above all else. I went into therapy and did my work. It was ten years of horrendous painful work, dealing with childhood sexual abuse, cult issues and  torture, but my kids were worth it. Hers are too !, Rebecca

Hi, 

  

I commend you for your brave post.  You're a big person for changing your ways, stopping your abusive behavior, and dealing with your childhood sexual abuse issues (that were at the root of your own acting out behaviors). 

  

Who knows where Becky's bottom is.  For all of her supposed bravado, she's a cowardly woman who is thin-skinned and can't take an iota of honest feedback.  She's slammed anybody on the board who has been honest.  I guess that means that far from being honest, Becky is fundamentally dishonest.  But then we all knew that. 

  

Becky's family should stop enabling her.  They are a part of the problem.  I don't allow anyone in my life who behaves like Becky.  Period.  I grew up with some pretty abusive women like Becky, and life is just way too short, and there are too many fun, non-abusive, people to have in my life.  (As I told 

one of my relatives, whom I haven't spoken to in more than 3 years because we're all sick of her abusive behavior toward all of us, "The price of admission is that you have to change."  So far, she hasn't wanted to pay that price.  Maybe at some point she'll be in enough pain, face enough losses, that she'll be sick and tired of being sick and tired.  So far she hasn't reached that point.  And I'm not waiting around in my life for her to change. 

  

Again, I COMMEND YOU FOR CHANGING YOUR BEHAVIOR!  How wonderful for you and your entire family! 

  

 
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November 19, 2005, 4:23 am PST

I was pulled to Dr. Phil's site because of Becky.

I was pulled to Dr. Phil's site because of Becky. I am very similar to her and have friends that she described, in other words I could related to her very much. Now, I dislike attention from lots of people, they are mostly annoying in fact, and to start with, they do not have what it takes to be a real person (be who they reallly are), then they tried to be who they are not (trying to be like friends or me to obtain some sort of recognition), and when things were unsuccessful, lots of them take a stand of opposition similar to Becky's relative, and according to the norm, the relatives win according to the normal individuals and yet Becky doesn't care, just like how I would react, although being in a similar situation would create myself stress and it is not a health situation emotionally because I do somewhat care. 

  

I also could have a mouth of a sailer, but I never fail when it comes to doing / saying the right thing at the right time. Becky reminds me of my family lawyer, including how she carry herself in the show and her responses to other people's issues. She carried herself extremely well and great for her. She has the ability that most people don't have: she could fit into more situations and talk to more people from all walks of like than most of the other ordinary people. I wish there are more people like her in this world, and I will then have a choice whether I would like to be her friend instead of my position now, which is "I would love to be her friend".  

  

  

 
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November 19, 2005, 4:38 am PST

Annoying Family

I am a 57 year old dairy farmer wife whose husband feels that it is my responsibilty to take care of his mother (73) who has fallen and broken her hip and now has dementia.  She is presently in Rehab; however, I am placed with the responsibility to get her onto Medicaid from Medicare and work with the lawyers on her assests.  During the time my father was dying with complications of dementia in another state he would not allow me to leave the farm to visit him and my mother.  Now that the tables are turned things seemed to be different.  I find this annoying and frustrating.  We have been married for 28 years and seem to be getting farther and farther apart.  He doesn't like leaving the farm for any recreation or fun time so I have started going out on my own to spend time at the camp we have 45 minutes from home; I have also by accident found a friend through the mechanic that works our vehicles and supplies us with parts.  He of course is married but we are able to chat via email and some times see each other alone.  This is wrong I know but I  have no female friends per the request of my husband.   Any suggestions???   bfarmer
 
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November 19, 2005, 4:48 am PST

Appeciate what ya got girls!

Your men may do some annoying things and they could work on cutting out the public embrassment.  You have two men that still know how to have fun in life and with you.  You are young and have children that are influenced by their dads.  They are going to remember all the fun they had and have a great sense of humor in their future.  It is some much nicer to laugh as much as possible through life.  When your husband jokes with you as he leaves the house each morning...smile....send him an email before he gets to work and say that you love him too.  Maybe even surprise him and be ready and naked one time and see how far that gets you and your relationship with your husband.  Marriage can get boring for both of you when you get in ruts, laughter and joking around and stupid things can help to keep your relationship fun and alive.  As I said the guys have things to work on and you can help them only if they are listening.  Each of you working on it with love and respect for one another, then it is growth.
 
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