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Falling in love is easy. Falling in love with your new spouse's kids is not so easy. Actor Dennis Quaid, co-star of the new movie "Yours, Mine & Ours," joins Dr. Phil. He talks about how being a dad helped him prepare for his role as a man dealing with the difficulties of blending a family. Then, Juli says her stepdaughter, Samantha, makes her feel like the other woman. Her husband, Mark, says that Samantha is his best friend. Will Juli's jealousy tear their new family apart? Then, they have two dogs, two cats, four fish and six kids. Meet two parents blending their chaotic family under one very small roof.  Join the discussion.

 

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November 22, 2005, 3:51 pm PST

11/22 "Yours, Mine & Ours”

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I have been married for three years to a wonderful man who is good to me in everyway just recently his daugter came back in our lives and she is 21 but got evicted so we took hewr in as I feel our duty was I have 2 daugters and a stepson that blended well but all the kids are having a hard blending it seems we have strife in our house all the time on top of it I have a terminal illness and my husband work keeps away during the week I at the end of my rope I just want everyone to get alone before i die. my husband is so wonderful to me and me and him back each other up but he is at the point the one over 18 have to get with the program or move out because he says and the doctors agree the stress is making my illness worst but I feel I failed as a mom if i say that if anyone can suggestion something i would be very grateful. That not bad kids just used to be the certer of their parents lives  

I getting so depressed sometimes i pray not to wake up 

please help  

Kandygirl8 

Everyone over 18 needs to move out to let you and your husband deal with your illness and your under-18 kids. She is 21 and should be taking care of herself.
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:19 pm PST

Cut bait and go

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I truly did not know other people were having my exact same problem. I've been married for two years and I just don't know what to do. If I would have known my husband's love was so conditional based on two very angry children's approval, I never would have gotten into this mess. We have gotten to the point that I finally made the decision that I can no longer be a part of the children's lives because they are such a negative influence on my health and marriage. Sometimes I think at least if I left, I'd get out alive. I'm dying a slow death being in this house and marriage with such unsupportive and angy people. I want to chose me.  

  

I don't want to complain, I want some "real" advice that works. Please Dr. Phil, is it really as hopeless as it seems? Please keep in mind that in my case, my husband will absolutely not help. 

This is exactly the situation that caused me to break off my engagement to a fellow I truly cared for but who had no control at all over his then 8 year old daughter. We went thru therapy for a year trying to come to some common agreement, nope wasn't going to happen. I looked him in the eye and told him "We've got an 8 year old running the household and you won't control her. If she's this bad at 8 I'm not sticking around for the teenage years" My son's best friend goes to school with her and she is just what I expected her to be at 17: drugs, alcohol, school tramp.  She asked my son's buddy for our phone number! M. told her not a chance, Gar didn't want anything to do with her. She's turned into a rather frightening young woman. 

  

Sometimes no matter how hard you try, how much kindness you show, how much patience you practice, your partner still doesn't carry their part of the responsibility. It's time to cut bait when that situtation occurs; you can't fix it and he won't, run for your life. 

 
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November 22, 2005, 4:20 pm PST

ask yourself why

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I was real excited about seeing the show today and hoping to get some tips or advice but like usual, my circumstances are quite different than most that I have found and the show didnt help much. My husband has a 9 yr old daughter whom he gets visitation with every other weekend and now that she moved, every 3 weekends. In the beginning (she was 3 then), everything was great, we got along and I was building a relationship with the lil girl. When we got engaged and moved in together EVERYTHING seemed to change. Andy, my husband, would COMPLETELY ignore me when she was at our place for the weekend. I worked weekends then so I wasn't even there most of the time. The girl would roll her eyes and disrespect me and my personal belongings and Andy would say, "I didn't see her" or stuff like, "It's just a piece of furniture (or whatever it was that she destroyed)" At night I would get kicked out of my own bed and Andy refused to take her back to bed. He thought I was a "bitch" for not wanting her to sleep in our bed or hang out in the privacy of our own bedroom. The girl had no rules, no bedtime, nothing. Andy and I went to counseling over this issue. The counselor suggested we both make a list of rules, combine and agree on them and proper punishment. After making a list of my own, andy said that I covered them all and they were fine. When it came to enforce these rules, he said I was a dictator, they are my rules and to enforece them myself. Needless to say, she goes to daddy every time still to this day. I can't even tell her to please knock before entering our room without getting yelled at. There are hundreds of stories like this. THEN we got married and pregnant. Andy had nothing to do with my pregnancy but would brag and tell stories about him and the girl's mom (whom he never married) and how it was such an emotional moment and blah blah blah. I couldn't get him to help name our son. His excuse was, "I got to name "her" so you can name the baby" In Lamaze class he took magazines and work to do because lamaze class was "boring. I've already been through this before."  My heart was broken and my soul crushed because of it. Andy's mother was the same way. She told me when I was 7 months pregnant that Andy should've married his daughter's mother. It is now clearly evident that she shows favortism between her only two grandchildren, Andy's daughter and our son. Andy said that he doesn't want any more children because he already has two and so do I. I argued that I only have one child and he says he didn't even want our son to begin with...another stab in the heart. I'm always compared to his ex, by him and his mother. Andy ALWAYS does what his ex says. When, where, how, whatever the case. I'm always put on the back burner and have to change plans or wait around until the last minute until the ex decides what suits her best. She is really vindictive after 8 and a half years. She is married with 2 children of her own and lives in a nice house and always driving a brand new car. She continually tries to drain more and more money out of us. I used to not have a problem with her until my husband started treating me like I was "their" child and treats her like she's a queen and i'm, well, a nothing. To try and make this shorter.....Now it has been almost 6 years. NOTHING has changed but the fact that now I have resentment and anger towards the whole situation. Considering that I have no say so in the situation, I stay in my room the whole time that the lil girl is here. I make Andy watch our 3 yr old the whole time due to the fact that he was also getting ignored on visitation weekends also. My son and I hardly ever get to spend time with Andy due to him working and going to school all the time so when he drops everything on the weekends for the girl and totally ignores our son and I, I get really angry and hurt and more resentment builds. I've tried VERY hard to make Andy understand where I am coming from but his response is and always has been, "she's blood and you're not and if you don't like it, get your stuff and get the f*** out" That statement hurt so bad that when I see the little girl, it makes me cringe. My 3 yr old does notice a difference being made. He lashes out by acting completely different when she's here. He hits, screams, and acts as silly as he can to get his daddy's attention. It's all I can do to keep from bawling. Bawling is usually what I do, in my room, every visitation weekend. Andy does his best to try and make me think that my thoughts and feelings are abnormal about being a "stepmother." He's bought me books to read and has done a good job at making me feel like a horrible person. I have read plenty of books, went to counseling, and have done research on the subject. I have found that yes, I am perfectly normal for feeling this way in such a situation. There are things that I could do more of that would make the situation better. The thing is, I have done everything asked of me and more and I dont' get anything in return for it. At this moment in time, Andy says that this coming up weekend things have to change and I have to love his daughter or we are getting divorced. I have tried to explain to him that we have to build a relationship and grow into love with full support and understanding. Andy tells me the situation is my problem and I have to deal with it myself. It is SOOOOO frustrating. With that ultimatum, I don't know what to do or say. It's something that can't happen overnight. It's taken me 6 years almost to get to this point of resenment and I can almost say hatred.  I feel like that he's telling me that instead of being a supportive father and husband that he would rather divorce me, sacrifice not giving his son his mommy AND daddy's full time support and love just so he doesn't have to deal with this issue less than 48 hours a month. I don't know what to do. There are sooo much more heartbreaking  moments that I couldn't even begin to tell it all here and now. I don't want to get divorced and I don't want to spend any days away from my son. If Dr. Phil reads this, PLEASE give me some advice.
 After all you have written, finally at the very bottom of your message you say you don't want to get divorced. Why? What is good about  your marriage? If there is anything good, is it good enough to trade all the heart-ache you have for it?
My marriage was in deep crisis just  5 months ago. Over my husbands kids and his parenting. The best thing I could do for the marriage also helped me find some peace. You just have to find a way to forgive. Forgive all the acts against you whether your husband validates your pain or not. Forgive his little girl. She is just a child. She's operating out of a hurting heart. Forgive your husband for not being a better husband and father. The only person in the dynamic you have power over to change is yourself. If you make a change in the dynamics of your family, they will have to respond. It might take a long time, it might not be the response you hope for, but you can change your actions and quit locking yourself in the room crying. Are you being the kind of mother you want your son to have? Are you being the kind of step-mom you would want to have if you were the little girl? Yeah, kids manipulate, kids lie, kids try every thing they can think of to get their way, and yes guilt-ridden dads give in too easily. If you are so hurt, and I believe by your message you are, then either get into a less-toxic environment or change the environment you are in.
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:26 pm PST

hmm

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If you have to work full time to support your kids plus raise them on your own, looking for Mr Right does not take priority when getting the laundry each week probably evades you. 

  

I would rather spend a quiet evening playing board games with my kids then chasing a more complicated life. 

  

  

But you know, sometimes you find that special person when you least expect it. So why give them up when you've found the right one for you? I don't think life is meant to be complicated, no matter the situation. It's how you deal with it that makes it easy or difficult. So when two adults with children find one another and fall in love, why put it on hold? I think happy parents make happy kids. 
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:27 pm PST

support from the children is not about money

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I couldn’t agree with you more.  When watching the second family’s introduction video…I was thinking “Wow, why don’t you just come right out and ask for a new house.” 

  

 

Throwing money at people who make poor choices isn’t the answer! 

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Dr. Phil....I have tried to put this into words and I am having problems doing that...basically I love a man whose children are running our lives.  When I met him he was financially ruined, by his ex, his son 35 yrs old and his daughter 37 yrs old...we fell in love and when we got together made a nice life for ourselves...that life has now fallen apart because of the interference of his children....they have tried to control us from the beginning, continuing to push buttons on both of us...i have not fallen for the cons but their Dad has,....they have pushed so hard that they have caused a huge rift between us and at one time my partner ended up in the hospital...I believe that their Dad has left because he has been in the middle of a huge power struggle- his children against me, he isn't strong enough to stand up to them- i have heard him say on the phone; if you make me chose i chose my partner, but he can never seem to hold true to it and gives in...his lack of strength and not his love for me has caused him to give up...so my words to those that are struggling with younger children...do somethiing about this now or pay for it later...cause two people in love are no match for angry geeding manipulating children...
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:29 pm PST

I feel your pain

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I was real excited about seeing the show today and hoping to get some tips or advice but like usual, my circumstances are quite different than most that I have found and the show didnt help much. My husband has a 9 yr old daughter whom he gets visitation with every other weekend and now that she moved, every 3 weekends. In the beginning (she was 3 then), everything was great, we got along and I was building a relationship with the lil girl. When we got engaged and moved in together EVERYTHING seemed to change. Andy, my husband, would COMPLETELY ignore me when she was at our place for the weekend. I worked weekends then so I wasn't even there most of the time. The girl would roll her eyes and disrespect me and my personal belongings and Andy would say, "I didn't see her" or stuff like, "It's just a piece of furniture (or whatever it was that she destroyed)" At night I would get kicked out of my own bed and Andy refused to take her back to bed. He thought I was a "bitch" for not wanting her to sleep in our bed or hang out in the privacy of our own bedroom. The girl had no rules, no bedtime, nothing. Andy and I went to counseling over this issue. The counselor suggested we both make a list of rules, combine and agree on them and proper punishment. After making a list of my own, andy said that I covered them all and they were fine. When it came to enforce these rules, he said I was a dictator, they are my rules and to enforece them myself. Needless to say, she goes to daddy every time still to this day. I can't even tell her to please knock before entering our room without getting yelled at. There are hundreds of stories like this. THEN we got married and pregnant. Andy had nothing to do with my pregnancy but would brag and tell stories about him and the girl's mom (whom he never married) and how it was such an emotional moment and blah blah blah. I couldn't get him to help name our son. His excuse was, "I got to name "her" so you can name the baby" In Lamaze class he took magazines and work to do because lamaze class was "boring. I've already been through this before."  My heart was broken and my soul crushed because of it. Andy's mother was the same way. She told me when I was 7 months pregnant that Andy should've married his daughter's mother. It is now clearly evident that she shows favortism between her only two grandchildren, Andy's daughter and our son. Andy said that he doesn't want any more children because he already has two and so do I. I argued that I only have one child and he says he didn't even want our son to begin with...another stab in the heart. I'm always compared to his ex, by him and his mother. Andy ALWAYS does what his ex says. When, where, how, whatever the case. I'm always put on the back burner and have to change plans or wait around until the last minute until the ex decides what suits her best. She is really vindictive after 8 and a half years. She is married with 2 children of her own and lives in a nice house and always driving a brand new car. She continually tries to drain more and more money out of us. I used to not have a problem with her until my husband started treating me like I was "their" child and treats her like she's a queen and i'm, well, a nothing. To try and make this shorter.....Now it has been almost 6 years. NOTHING has changed but the fact that now I have resentment and anger towards the whole situation. Considering that I have no say so in the situation, I stay in my room the whole time that the lil girl is here. I make Andy watch our 3 yr old the whole time due to the fact that he was also getting ignored on visitation weekends also. My son and I hardly ever get to spend time with Andy due to him working and going to school all the time so when he drops everything on the weekends for the girl and totally ignores our son and I, I get really angry and hurt and more resentment builds. I've tried VERY hard to make Andy understand where I am coming from but his response is and always has been, "she's blood and you're not and if you don't like it, get your stuff and get the f*** out" That statement hurt so bad that when I see the little girl, it makes me cringe. My 3 yr old does notice a difference being made. He lashes out by acting completely different when she's here. He hits, screams, and acts as silly as he can to get his daddy's attention. It's all I can do to keep from bawling. Bawling is usually what I do, in my room, every visitation weekend. Andy does his best to try and make me think that my thoughts and feelings are abnormal about being a "stepmother." He's bought me books to read and has done a good job at making me feel like a horrible person. I have read plenty of books, went to counseling, and have done research on the subject. I have found that yes, I am perfectly normal for feeling this way in such a situation. There are things that I could do more of that would make the situation better. The thing is, I have done everything asked of me and more and I dont' get anything in return for it. At this moment in time, Andy says that this coming up weekend things have to change and I have to love his daughter or we are getting divorced. I have tried to explain to him that we have to build a relationship and grow into love with full support and understanding. Andy tells me the situation is my problem and I have to deal with it myself. It is SOOOOO frustrating. With that ultimatum, I don't know what to do or say. It's something that can't happen overnight. It's taken me 6 years almost to get to this point of resenment and I can almost say hatred.  I feel like that he's telling me that instead of being a supportive father and husband that he would rather divorce me, sacrifice not giving his son his mommy AND daddy's full time support and love just so he doesn't have to deal with this issue less than 48 hours a month. I don't know what to do. There are sooo much more heartbreaking  moments that I couldn't even begin to tell it all here and now. I don't want to get divorced and I don't want to spend any days away from my son. If Dr. Phil reads this, PLEASE give me some advice.
It is hard when the ex-wives try to get involved in your life because they think they know what is best for their kids. I am a ex-wife also but I have enough respect for my ex to stay out of his new marriage. They don't know what your life is like, they are not living with you. Why is it that one parent can go on with their life and the other gets punished for tring to move on? Kids work the system with both parents, telling them what they think the parents want to here. My best word of advice to parents that spoil their kids, IT WILL COME BACK TO BITE YOU IN THE BUTT!  Kids need love not everything you can buy them. I know how you feel I went through that situation for 2 years.
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:31 pm PST

tell your friend...

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 i just watched todays show on blended families.  i have some questions which relate to my best friend and her new relationship.  any input would be gratefully accepted for this unique family about to be "blended."  she is not only marrying someone with two children, she has 2 of her own and one foster child.  they are also blending different cultures and religions.  i would love to hear from anyone that may be in the same situation.
 run like hell!

But  when my friends said that to me, I couldn't hear them or even read their lips from the fog that was surrounding my head. Since then, I have had to take the advice of others... wear your knees out in prayer.

What I really wanted to say is that the little girl who is her dad's companion needs to have her dad's love, but he needs to put his wife first in the home. But by his expressions on tv, I think he kind of enjoys the position he's in and I wouldn't look for him to change anything. His wife seems very patient and cool-headed about it. She might need to accept it or tolerate it or move on down the road.
 
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November 22, 2005, 4:34 pm PST

the stepdaughter from hell

I had her!!!!! You would have thought that SHE slept with my husband instead of me. She could do no wrong and no one was allowed to say anything derogatory to her. I was not allowed to parent her yet he was allowed to parent my kids. My NOW -EX HUSBAND never expected HER to have any respect for me, yet I had to respect HER!  We took our respective kids to Disneyworld (she was a late add on) and she ruined the whole trip. She screammed at the top of her lungs in Downtown Disney, 'I HATE YOU" and stormed off. Think her dad did anything about it? NOOOOOOOOOOO  When the poor little princess had finally had enough and decided to move back in with her mother, I happened to be 7 months pregnant. As she was leaving my ex yelled at me, "IF SHE GOES, I WANT YOU OUT OF HERE TOO". Mind u, I was pregnant.  We did try counseling for this matter but since my ex never wanted to acknowledge the problem, it would never be resolved. She nailed MANY nails into the coffin of my marriage and I can only hope it comes back to bite her in the ass someday.  I also will never date or get serious with any man who has kids at home.
 

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November 22, 2005, 4:36 pm PST

It is not the 48 hours a month it is the other 678!

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I was real excited about seeing the show today and hoping to get some tips or advice but like usual, my circumstances are quite different than most that I have found and the show didnt help much. My husband has a 9 yr old daughter whom he gets visitation with every other weekend and now that she moved, every 3 weekends. In the beginning (she was 3 then), everything was great, we got along and I was building a relationship with the lil girl. When we got engaged and moved in together EVERYTHING seemed to change. Andy, my husband, would COMPLETELY ignore me when she was at our place for the weekend. I worked weekends then so I wasn't even there most of the time. The girl would roll her eyes and disrespect me and my personal belongings and Andy would say, "I didn't see her" or stuff like, "It's just a piece of furniture (or whatever it was that she destroyed)" At night I would get kicked out of my own bed and Andy refused to take her back to bed. He thought I was a "bitch" for not wanting her to sleep in our bed or hang out in the privacy of our own bedroom. The girl had no rules, no bedtime, nothing. Andy and I went to counseling over this issue. The counselor suggested we both make a list of rules, combine and agree on them and proper punishment. After making a list of my own, andy said that I covered them all and they were fine. When it came to enforce these rules, he said I was a dictator, they are my rules and to enforece them myself. Needless to say, she goes to daddy every time still to this day. I can't even tell her to please knock before entering our room without getting yelled at. There are hundreds of stories like this. THEN we got married and pregnant. Andy had nothing to do with my pregnancy but would brag and tell stories about him and the girl's mom (whom he never married) and how it was such an emotional moment and blah blah blah. I couldn't get him to help name our son. His excuse was, "I got to name "her" so you can name the baby" In Lamaze class he took magazines and work to do because lamaze class was "boring. I've already been through this before."  My heart was broken and my soul crushed because of it. Andy's mother was the same way. She told me when I was 7 months pregnant that Andy should've married his daughter's mother. It is now clearly evident that she shows favortism between her only two grandchildren, Andy's daughter and our son. Andy said that he doesn't want any more children because he already has two and so do I. I argued that I only have one child and he says he didn't even want our son to begin with...another stab in the heart. I'm always compared to his ex, by him and his mother. Andy ALWAYS does what his ex says. When, where, how, whatever the case. I'm always put on the back burner and have to change plans or wait around until the last minute until the ex decides what suits her best. She is really vindictive after 8 and a half years. She is married with 2 children of her own and lives in a nice house and always driving a brand new car. She continually tries to drain more and more money out of us. I used to not have a problem with her until my husband started treating me like I was "their" child and treats her like she's a queen and i'm, well, a nothing. To try and make this shorter.....Now it has been almost 6 years. NOTHING has changed but the fact that now I have resentment and anger towards the whole situation. Considering that I have no say so in the situation, I stay in my room the whole time that the lil girl is here. I make Andy watch our 3 yr old the whole time due to the fact that he was also getting ignored on visitation weekends also. My son and I hardly ever get to spend time with Andy due to him working and going to school all the time so when he drops everything on the weekends for the girl and totally ignores our son and I, I get really angry and hurt and more resentment builds. I've tried VERY hard to make Andy understand where I am coming from but his response is and always has been, "she's blood and you're not and if you don't like it, get your stuff and get the f*** out" That statement hurt so bad that when I see the little girl, it makes me cringe. My 3 yr old does notice a difference being made. He lashes out by acting completely different when she's here. He hits, screams, and acts as silly as he can to get his daddy's attention. It's all I can do to keep from bawling. Bawling is usually what I do, in my room, every visitation weekend. Andy does his best to try and make me think that my thoughts and feelings are abnormal about being a "stepmother." He's bought me books to read and has done a good job at making me feel like a horrible person. I have read plenty of books, went to counseling, and have done research on the subject. I have found that yes, I am perfectly normal for feeling this way in such a situation. There are things that I could do more of that would make the situation better. The thing is, I have done everything asked of me and more and I dont' get anything in return for it. At this moment in time, Andy says that this coming up weekend things have to change and I have to love his daughter or we are getting divorced. I have tried to explain to him that we have to build a relationship and grow into love with full support and understanding. Andy tells me the situation is my problem and I have to deal with it myself. It is SOOOOO frustrating. With that ultimatum, I don't know what to do or say. It's something that can't happen overnight. It's taken me 6 years almost to get to this point of resenment and I can almost say hatred.  I feel like that he's telling me that instead of being a supportive father and husband that he would rather divorce me, sacrifice not giving his son his mommy AND daddy's full time support and love just so he doesn't have to deal with this issue less than 48 hours a month. I don't know what to do. There are sooo much more heartbreaking  moments that I couldn't even begin to tell it all here and now. I don't want to get divorced and I don't want to spend any days away from my son. If Dr. Phil reads this, PLEASE give me some advice.

With 720 hours a month and only 48 spent with your step daughter and all this pain, it appears to me that the problem it not the fact that you are a step mom it is you appeared to be married to the wrong man.   

  

Why you still with this guy? 

What are you getting out of this relationship? 

  

 

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November 22, 2005, 5:03 pm PST

Well throw a bow on his head and send him on over.

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But you know, sometimes you find that special person when you least expect it. So why give them up when you've found the right one for you? I don't think life is meant to be complicated, no matter the situation. It's how you deal with it that makes it easy or difficult. So when two adults with children find one another and fall in love, why put it on hold? I think happy parents make happy kids. 

Well throw a bow on his head and send him on over. 

  

 

Ok if you insist just put a bow on his head and send him on over.  That way I’ll know he is mine.  As long as I can fold laundry and clean cat boxes and empty the dish washer while we “fall in love” I’ll do it. 

  

 

Actually I’ve done the single parent thing, blended family thing.  Now that I’m on my second batch of kids I’m finding the single parent thing works very well for me.  The risks are too high to disrupt my kid’s life’s to have some short lived fantasy thing.   Blending two careers, two families (plus ex’s), dogs, cats, birds, fish, frogs, rats, guinea pigs, rabbits (and what ever else needs a home) and two households is way to monumental task for my middle aged mind to grasp.   Makes me want to take a nap just thinking about it.  I’ll take good care of myself, eat healthy and live long enough to do the love boat thing when I’m ready to send the last one off to college.   It’s my life style choice and being single is a legitimate lifestyle choice.  I’ll role model that.  I seriously doubt any man I would give the time of day would sign up to live in my zoo anyway.   

  

 

Marriage is an optional thing on our society last I checked. 

 
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