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Imagine hearing voices that don’t really exist, thinking lasers are shooting through your walls or believing that people are coming into your home through electrical outlets. For people with schizophrenia, these types of delusions and paranoia are part of daily life. Mary sees angels and demons and has even believed her husband was a demon in disguise. Then, Ann Marie and Tim would give anything to help their mother. She talks emphatically to people who aren’t there and speaks nonsense to her own children. Watch her erratic behavior captured on camera and find out whether her case is beyond treatment. Plus, two sisters, Melanie and Rachel, want to know if their minds could be ticking time bombs. Talk about the show here.

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trixies

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November 23, 2005, 12:56 pm PST

11/23 Schizophrenia

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The worst part of dealing with this illness is the medical & insurance systems. 3 years ago I had to have my sister committed because of the illness. The kept her overnight. She was in and out of the hospital for several months. Each time she would come home, I knew she was still sick. She was delusional, hearing voices and paranoid & suicidal. The Dr.s said that until she "did something to harm herself or someone else" they could not keep her based on insurance requirements. So we went for months-----in the hospital 3-5 days and out again. It was a nightmare. My brother & I reconciled ourselves to the fact that she would kill herself & we would be helpless.

We were lucky, she won the battle but the medical & insurance companies didn't do much to help her.

the state does not want to help the mentally ill they want to push us asside they have cut programs that are essential. some of us have to choose beetween meds and our food that s what is happening with this new program. the hospital dont keep us because they arent allowed to . let me tell you a secret if u want to get them in tell them that theyve threatened to kill them self only do this if there really sick. thats the only way they will keep them more than five days.

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November 23, 2005, 12:59 pm PST

Dr Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. I think Schizophrenia is sad but it is mental Illness aswell in which the people have to-

go to the doctor or the hospital aswell in which it is not easy as you think. Doctor Phil people could-

die from these mental illness aswell because that is what Dave Doctor Hneida of Channel Four----

in Denver, Colorado. Belive me people could die from mental illness. Day Happy Thanksgiving.----

Friend Your. Russell Vlaanderen.----------------------------------------------------

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November 23, 2005, 1:03 pm PST

11/23 Schizophrenia

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I am quite surprised at your posting. I have a sister who suffers from this disease. I have been with her in the midst of this illness - when she was hearing & speaking with demons. I have knelt with her and prayed and begged God to help her. I have taken her to our church and had our priest pray over her.

Her delusions were also of demons ---- but I think this springs from the fact that her husband was physically & verbally abusive----- a real-life demon. Her life was saved not by a priest by her Dr. She has since divorced her husband & is now remarried to a great guy.

I believe in God and I believe in demons and I believe that we make choices on this earth. Our choice was to seek medical help and put our faith in God. God helps those that help themselves.

Do not encourage people who are ill, who cannot make rational decisions, to buy into their delusions. These people need medical help, they need their families support and they need faith in God to live a normal life, but don't lump it all on Gods shoulders. We have responsibilities to do our part also.

At first I was going to reply to the quote this quote address, but when I saw this one my view was altered someone. I do believe that people with this disease could be 'possessed' in some form. However, even if this is so, it is not to be taken lightly, and should firstly seak medical help! After getting proper medical help, then I believe that it could not hurt to also look into the spiritual aspect, and seek help there as well! I am Christian, and very aware of the spiritual realm.. a very real thing, and something I have experienced! I also have a husband who works with special needs children, and have a strong belief in the medical field. Though, I am no profesional by any means...

I do commend those on the show.. to talk and educate the public on this subject is a brave step. It was a most interesting show.

I dont think I could have said it better than this poster, and so I support their comment!

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November 23, 2005, 1:07 pm PST

Sons father poss. schizophrenic

Hi
My sons's father was hospitalized last year for a month and later rehospitalized twice for psychiatric evaluation. As far as I know he was never diagnosed with schizophrenia because of his age (32) but his symptoms at the time included thinking he was the reincarnated soul of Yasser Arafat, hearing messages through the radio, and going on a mission that later led to his hospitalization. This information was told to me by his family. As far as I know he was on medication but he refused to take them because he said it interfered with his creativity (painting, drawing and playing musical instruments). Since last June he seemed to get better so my son was allowed to stay overnight every week or so. Now, my son (who is 6) informed me that his father told him he was chased by police with a tazer gun and hit on the head with a baseball bat. These things did happen when he ran away from the hospital. He also told my son, who is having minor behavioural problems at school not to let me or the school put him on pills. I think these statements are highly inappropriate, and are making me wonder about the stability of my ex's mental health. My fear is that if I prevent my son from having any more overnight visits with his father, my ex's health will get worse. Can anyone shed some light on this situation, or offer advice? The last thing I want to do is put my son in a situation that my not be good for him.

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November 23, 2005, 1:16 pm PST

Schizophrenia from a victim of illness

Greetings..

I only caught last 10 minutes of the show's first airing (but it's on another channel in about an hour).. Wanted to comment that I have Schizoaffective Disorder -- which is a combination of Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder (manic-depression). I've experienced all the standard psychotic symptoms (small example -- satellites controlling my body, radio music being about me in a threatening or other way, radioactivity in places that were going to kill me, trucks on highway with signs that were telling me things, army pumping toxic agents into my air conditioning system, and I could go on but I won't).

Where was I going, oh yeah: My psychiatrist tells me that when prisoner's are held in solitary confinement, almost without fail they all become psychotic over time and show schizophrenia symptoms. It's probably no coincidence then that when I was first diagnosed in 1996, I had just started living on my own (for 6 months, I graduated college and started work in May 1996, and my first diagnosis in December 1996) and I didn't have many friends so I was more or less in self-assigned solitary confinement (my parents lived some 1,000+ miles away).

So, it's important to recognize (if it wasn't covered on the show) that there are causes for the illness (which doesn't make it any less of a 'real' illness) which are reality based that anyone can fall victim to if not careful.

-Rob

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November 23, 2005, 1:17 pm PST

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well not sure how to begin but ill give it a shot, i run a care home for the mentally ill, i look after 4 people in my home 24-7, 3 men 1 Lady I've been doing this for about 8 years now and i get so frustrated sometimes cause I'm trying to be a good wife a mother and a good care giver to these people i have in my home there are like family to me but the suffer from schizophrenia and its so hard fro me to be a good wife a lover a mother and a good care giver to everyone in my home i have to space to my self its like i cant breath at times but i try my hardest to get done what has to be done and then for me to have time to my self there is not enough time in a day left for me so I'm getting depressed or i should say exhausted not sure knowing what to do its hard to get staff into my home for me to take time for my self . its hard on my soon to be husband also cause i feel like i leave him till last and some nights i don't have time for us and some times i feel he will leave me cause i cant satisfy him cause I'm to busy with others. so any suggestions?

first off were are these people family. second you need to maybe get them to a day program they are out there they just dont advertise them find an allince for the mentally ill. get them self sufficient in like cooking evan if is microve waving maybe gett them to wash dishes then have a date night see if you can get someone to come in and over see them . or see about a program were they will be taught to be self suffient to take care of them selves . so u and ur husband can do more,

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November 23, 2005, 1:17 pm PST

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DR. PHIL I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT YOU DOING THIS SHOW ......WHEN YOUR GUEST WAS EXPLAINING HER CONDITION I ABSOLUTELY GOT NERVOUS AND CRIED. I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED BI POLAR AND I COULD FEEL EVERYTHING THIS YOUNG LADY HAD TO SAY WAS ME..................... ON MEDS BUT THEY ONLY HELP TO AN EXTENT ........I STILL HAVE TO FUNCTION EVERY DAY ON THE JOB.......... ON ABILIFY, LEXAPRO, AND SEROQUEL.............

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November 23, 2005, 1:22 pm PST

Mary? You're an inspiration to me!!!

Hi,

I just finished watching the show and hearing your story. I swear, it could have been me up there on the stage! I have been battling these voices in my head for 23 years and was too embarrassed to ever tell anyone. I'm sitting in tears here as I try to figure out how I'm going to bring this up to my hubby when he gets home. I'm scared...not about taking medication or anything (I've taken Prozac in the past) but about bringing this nightmare I call my life into the light. I suppose my first step is to find a therapist. Please pray that I can do this!!!!

And by the way....at the end of the first tape they showed, you were saying how you would rather be sane and heavy than (in)sane and a size 4. Honey, you are absolutely beautiful the way you are!! Thank you for sharing your story and for giving me the courage to share mine.

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November 23, 2005, 1:24 pm PST

11/23 Schizophrenia

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dont be go to ur doc first before you get ur self all worked up take it from someone who has major deepresion and slight mood dissorder.

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November 23, 2005, 1:26 pm PST

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I am the one with schizophrenia on the show. In response to your post, I got sick when i was 18. I had my first full psychotic break then. I was unmedicated for years struggling with this disease, self medicating with alcohol and running the streets. I was not medicated at all for anything when the schizophrenia started. I will wait for the show to air before sharing any more. I'm sure the show will cover alot of what I might say here.

Mary, Please, please, please see a priest! There are priests who are authorized by their local bishop to do exorcisms. You must see this kind of priest, not just any priest. I'm a convert from atheism. I never believed in the devil or demons or real evil. I thought people who believed in this stuff were wacky. My conversion to God is a long story... but today I know beyond a doubt that the devil, demons and evil are very present and active in the world. I trusted my doctor, my therapist, but they didn't believe in real evil either, so I suffered much longer that I should have with different issues. What you are describing sounds like demon possesion. Please, please, I'm begging you, don't wait one more day! May the angels of God, especially St. Michael, protect you... I am praying for you... Maddy

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