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Created on : Friday, November 18, 2005, 03:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/25/05) Parents, listen up! Dr. Phil tackles parenting problems before they become big challenges. Victoria Gotti has let America see firsthand her challenges raising three boys on her hit reality show, Growing Up Gotti. Can Dr. Phil help her learn not to be such a pushover? Next, Michael Rapaport, star of the The War at Home, gives Dr. Phil a behind-the-scenes look at the controversial sitcom and asks him for help with his personal parenting dilemmas. Plus, the spanking debate continues with a couple at war over the issue. And, Dr. Phil offers advice to parents of a 5-year-old who is so friendly with everyone, she has even gotten into a stranger's car. Talk about the show here.


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November 26, 2005, 11:56 am PST

you are in the wrong forum

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I didnt see any other post for the woman that was the mom of Victoria and Hunter! I am appalled at her. I can not believe that she can treat her daughter that way. I am a daughter of a 7 year old girl and it broke my heart. I would take that baby in a second.  I hope she listened and took to heart what Dr. Phil said. That poor little girl my prayers will be with her!

That show was on like, 2 months ago. Did you tape it or something??? 

 
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November 26, 2005, 4:02 pm PST

what are parents thinking

hello i saw Friday show and i cant believe that mother who just lets her boy spit hit or yell at her and then gives him a big hug after are you kidding me what in the heck is that teaching him that its OK to treat people like crap if he doesn't get what he wants . I can guarantee that when hes at school and he does not get what he wants the kid or teacher he hits or spits on won give him a big hug and tell him its OK . I have four kids three 10 year olds and one 4 year old the little one has had her days of hitting biting and just being nasty well she did not get a hug thats for sure and when she was put in for a time out and her favorite movie was taken away and she had a fit the last thing i was worried about was if she was happy I love her very much and she is a very fun to be with but i wont let any one spit on me even if its my precess baby. This lady has to grow up and take control of this rascal before he stars running the house
 
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November 26, 2005, 4:34 pm PST

11/25 Biggest Parenting Problems

Happy means that the child is peaceful, calm and comfortable and can predict the consequences of his actions" (hopefully I got that right) which is what Dr. Phil said to the couple where the father spanks and the mother does not and it is something that I agree with totally and I do not have a problem with spanking as I have used it on rare occasions. My children fit those descriptions and are very well mannered children who are loving and gets along with every one, very pleasent children and know that they are loved and cared for. I think the problem with this particular couple is the fact that they are not in agreement with discipline and the mommy is trying too hard to be her little ones best friend, and that little boy, though as young as he is, is catching on to that really quickly and it is gonna get worse if this couple doesn't sit down together and figure out the house rules and boundaries together. I believe parents need to be on the same page when it comes to the discipline and rules of the home for if they don't then kids will play one parent against the other and their marriage will suffer. Parents need to back each other up and if their is a disagreement, then it needs to be discussed in private. As far as this Gotti lady goes. ( I do not watch tv, therefore I have no clue who she is, I read the show on the sight). She needs to start stepping up to the plate and sticking up for her self or those boys are gonna get worse. Does those two older boys work? They need to be and if they can't respect their mother and the house rules then it is time to get them out of there and into their own apartment, they are old enough, they can be room mates and share expenses. I am sure they will treat other women in their lives with this same disrespect that their mother has taught them as acceptable if something doesn't change. The time out thing is a good discipline for young kids and it does work if the child is in a space that is boring and nothing to do or look at. So what if they are kicking and screaming, the few times that my girls have done this, I looked at them and said "o well, your still in time out" and walk away from them and they hate being ignored.
 
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November 26, 2005, 5:31 pm PST

You can't know the whole story

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I find that a big parenting problem is that some parents want kids but they don't want to be "parents".  You know the type.... the ones that you see in malls that let their kids run amok and they don't even do anything to stop them because they're too lazy to discipline them.
As the daughter of a 3 1/2 year old, I'm wondering why you would assume that these people "dont' want to be parents". You cannot possibly understand the thoughts of the parents you see that define their actions.  They may not feel this way or be lazy, they may just believe in a different type of parenting - a more free approach.  They may also have had poor parenting themselves.  To say that they don't want to be parents or are lazy is an assumtion on your part, that is in my opinion, a bit lazy as well.  Lazy and assumptive thinking. 
 
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November 26, 2005, 5:38 pm PST

Judgemental of other people

I've found some of the comments on this board to be very judgemental.  Being a parent is very hard work, and an almost impossible task to get perfect if you've had poor parenting in the past yourself.  These people have come to the show for help (even Gotti).  Do you think they want their kids to do this?  This is not how they dreamed it would be. 

All they asked for was help and tips.  These parents want to do better and should be commended for recognizing the problem and asking for direction.   

So, if you are a parent with perfect kids...congratulations.  Use your knowledge to help in a kind way - or not at all.   

 
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November 26, 2005, 7:25 pm PST

11/25 Biggest Parenting Problems

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That show was on like, 2 months ago. Did you tape it or something??? 

Re-run.
 
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November 26, 2005, 8:06 pm PST

Very good comment. Give credit to these parents.

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I've found some of the comments on this board to be very judgemental.  Being a parent is very hard work, and an almost impossible task to get perfect if you've had poor parenting in the past yourself.  These people have come to the show for help (even Gotti).  Do you think they want their kids to do this?  This is not how they dreamed it would be. 

All they asked for was help and tips.  These parents want to do better and should be commended for recognizing the problem and asking for direction.   

So, if you are a parent with perfect kids...congratulations.  Use your knowledge to help in a kind way - or not at all.   

As a parent, I can tell you it was hard for me to ask for help.  I did not want nobody prying into my personal world.  Looking at it now, the decision I made to cooperate 10 years ago, has given me the daughter I always wished for.  I pray all the parents that need help, and direction, ask, and accept the ideas from non-judgmental people.  Kids, like mates, don't come with instruction books, 30 day return policy or 2 year no lemon laws offered by the state they were born in  

  

Good luck, and don't be afraid to ask, there will be parents here that went through a lot, and not be judgmental.  

  

Jose' 

 
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November 26, 2005, 8:11 pm PST

That is very true...

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As the daughter of a 3 1/2 year old, I'm wondering why you would assume that these people "dont' want to be parents". You cannot possibly understand the thoughts of the parents you see that define their actions.  They may not feel this way or be lazy, they may just believe in a different type of parenting - a more free approach.  They may also have had poor parenting themselves.  To say that they don't want to be parents or are lazy is an assumtion on your part, that is in my opinion, a bit lazy as well.  Lazy and assumptive thinking. 

As I said before, perhaps they are following parenting advise from a very liberal source.  And perhaps that liberal practice is not what works with that particular child.  Every child is different.  Not just because of their age, or sex, but because of their personality type, or if they have their own agenda.  Heather at almost 7 years old was very manipulative, and testing to see how far she can push the new step dad, and let me tell you she almost pushed me right out the door.   

  

Now she turns 18 next month, we are closer than any biological child - dad I know, and she is the apple of my eye.  She will tell you, she has me wrapped around her little finger, but that is O.K. because I rather have that than the war I lived through back then. 

  

My son 10, is very sweet, patient and sentimental.  He cries at anything, suffers from ADD, but is otherwise a fun kid to be around.  He does not like me as much as he likes his mom, but that is o.k. too, as Heather does not like her mom as much as she likes me. There is a balance, but it took 11 months in therapy to find it.  Very well worth it. 

 
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November 26, 2005, 8:21 pm PST

Wow, what a coinsidence...

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What a wonderful idea!  I'm certainly open to trying anything and since this approach was successful with you and Heather it might just work for us!  I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my message.  It was so heart warming to see a step-father that cared enough to make changes.  The other part to my story is that I had a child when my husband and I married.  He was very strict with her and she rebelled as well.  She moved out two days after her 18th birthday, already pregnant.  Now, almost 8 years later, she's given me a lot of insight on things and I'm determined not to let this happen to my 12 year old.   

  

I'm so glad that you and Heather has such a wonderful relationship.  Best of luck to you and again, thank you so much for the idea! 

Heather is a peach, she will be going to Columbia College, just got accepted, in August of 2006.  She has the opportunity to dorm there, and refused.  She does not want to be to far away from home.  So she an I have come to a plan to make this work for her.  The two days that she will have 12 hour days, I will drive her there and back, as I don't want her falling asleep at the wheel.   

  

The other two days, they are shorter 5 to 6 hour days, she will driver herself, or take Metra Train from our home in the Burbs to Downtown Chicago.  It is going to be an exciting four years for her. 

  

I hope your husband sees this as an opportunity to make amends with all his children.  Our family counseling started with the whole family, including my mom that lived with us at the time.  The therapist selected who to see the following week, every time.  After 4 weeks, she discharged my mom, and my wife, and Heather and I gave each other a look that was priceless.  We knew we were in the doctor sites now, and there was no more hiding.  It was the beginning of what is today a very remarkable relationship.  So remarkable, our local newspaper wrote an article on us, called "Dancing Steps", it started focusing on our dance group that Heather and I started 3 years ago, and then quickly focused on a step parent relationship that actually worked out after much work on everybody's part.  I pray your family will be just as blissful. 

 
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November 26, 2005, 8:33 pm PST

Does souned like withdraw...

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She's never been a toy player, even since she was little.  She's more people-oriented than thing-oriented.  She'll watch TV once in a while, and on the weekends some, but she's at gym from 4-7pm twice a week, and the other days the TV just doesn't come on until I want it on for me.   Her having friends over is just a time issue, and an energy issue for me (being a solo parent).   

  

She loves her class at school and has many friends there, and has many friend at the gym.  She's dealing with her dad's death 18 mos. ago from cancer, and is seeing a counelor for that.   

  

Thanks for your advice -- I completely agree with you regarding respect and obedience.   I still, though, am completely hesistant about taking away gym, since she's competing and has to be there.  But, I can make her pay for the practice that day.   

  

Never a dull moment! 

  

  

As a dance director, and a step dad that had to go through counseling to learn to deal with my little princes, I beg  you don't take gymnastic away.  Perhaps this is the only thing she likes to do, and taking it away will push her further into withdraw.   

  

Talk it over with the counselor and seek other ideas.  If the counselor does not help, consider finding one that will see both of you, as we did. A family counselor that focuses n kids.  

  

As a dance director I can tell you that I often receive calls from my girl's parents telling me they have this problem or the next.  I have a talk with them with the parents permission, and usually it helps.  Try confiding in the gym coach the problem you are having, see if he or she give you a different idea.  Take care, and good luck.  

 
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