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Created on : Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 03:23:42 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/28/05) What if your husband tricked you into getting pregnant? What if your wife lied to you and got pregnant? First, Stacy didn't tell Derek she went off birth control until after she got pregnant. He thought he was doing the right thing by marrying her but now feels trapped. When Stacy reveals the real reason she went off birth control, will Derek decide to stay in the marriage, or is it over? Next, Steve got Mary pregnant so that she would marry him. Since they've had more than one unplanned child, how does he keep getting her pregnant, and is he trying to trap her? Share your thoughts.


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November 29, 2005, 2:47 pm PST

Responsible sex

My concern is why you didn't talk about responsible sex for both partners. With the spread of STD's I think both parties should be responsible and use protection. Why should the woman be entirely to blame when the man could very easily have used a condom because of the spread of disease. In the second case, the woman did not want to get pregnant - why was birth control pills not mentioned? I understand that the children pay the price but I feel both partners lacked responsibilty. We try to tell our young people that they must use protection and this example goes against that advice in a big way.
 
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November 29, 2005, 2:53 pm PST

baby,marriage, and now abuse

Hi all, 

I just wanted to write my thoughts down....I have a six month old , and a husband who calls me dirty names almost on a daily basis.The other day he was burping her, and he was doing it rather hard, and one of the burps made her cry......I dont believe it. He hugged her and said sorry, but how could this happen in the first place? I was always known as a STRONG woman. and now............. 

I wanted to know how the fighting and name calling will affect my little baby. I know it cant be good. And I cant leave. I am not american, and if i cross the border to canada, my husband WILL claim kidnapping. I told him that we need counselling, but he refuses. I am scared, and I dont want my child to grow up thinking this is ok. Nor do I want her to feel scared in her own home. He takes everything away from me if he suspects that I want to leave, and says he will take her away too. So, my loving husband turned monster has me hostage.(so I feel) I want to get out. I cant see her cry. I need to bring her to my family where it is safe and healthy for the both of us.. He wants me pregnant again.... I cant get a professional opinion without him knowing, I need to know if there is a way for me to get away....I know there has to be. Please let me know.......thank u 

 
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November 29, 2005, 4:28 pm PST

You got it all wrong...

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Stacy, 

  

Dr. Phil made me very angry by being so harsh to you.  He didn't even pretend to be interested in the fact that your husband spit on you and the baby.   Derek is a cold, pompous jerk.  What you did is nothing new, and your husband should have been in charge of the birth control if he was so worried about pregnancy.   In fact, he shouldn't have been having sex with you at all, as he was obviously not that into you.  Why would you want to be with that ass anyway, when you could be with someone who loves both you and your son, unconditionally.  Let your husband go off into his plastic, superficial world.  I once had a cold, selfish, judgmental husband like yours, and was shocked at how quickly I got over him as he ran off with his girlfriend, leaving me with two babies.  Thirty-five years later, my ex has never changed and has never been able to give himself heart and soul to anyone, and my guess is that creep you are married to is the same way.  

My husband and I both agreed that we wanted our first child.  When she was four months old,  I became pregnant while using contraceptive foam.  My ex left me because he couldn't stand the fact that our son was born retarded.  His remarks:  "I'm embarrassed by him, don't love him, and never want to see him again."   

  

Don't be so quick to make assumptions. 

 
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November 29, 2005, 4:33 pm PST

You don't need a professional...

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Hi all, 

I just wanted to write my thoughts down....I have a six month old , and a husband who calls me dirty names almost on a daily basis.The other day he was burping her, and he was doing it rather hard, and one of the burps made her cry......I dont believe it. He hugged her and said sorry, but how could this happen in the first place? I was always known as a STRONG woman. and now............. 

I wanted to know how the fighting and name calling will affect my little baby. I know it cant be good. And I cant leave. I am not american, and if i cross the border to canada, my husband WILL claim kidnapping. I told him that we need counselling, but he refuses. I am scared, and I dont want my child to grow up thinking this is ok. Nor do I want her to feel scared in her own home. He takes everything away from me if he suspects that I want to leave, and says he will take her away too. So, my loving husband turned monster has me hostage.(so I feel) I want to get out. I cant see her cry. I need to bring her to my family where it is safe and healthy for the both of us.. He wants me pregnant again.... I cant get a professional opinion without him knowing, I need to know if there is a way for me to get away....I know there has to be. Please let me know.......thank u 

You don't need a professional to tell you that your situation is just wrong.   I raised my children alone and couldn't be more proud at how they turned out.  My ex acts as though our  kids never existed, but his mind is warped and twisted.  I'm so glad that they didn't get influenced by him.    

 
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November 29, 2005, 6:19 pm PST

So because Stacy's deceit was not new it was okay?

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Stacy, 

  

Dr. Phil made me very angry by being so harsh to you.  He didn't even pretend to be interested in the fact that your husband spit on you and the baby.   Derek is a cold, pompous jerk.  What you did is nothing new, and your husband should have been in charge of the birth control if he was so worried about pregnancy.   In fact, he shouldn't have been having sex with you at all, as he was obviously not that into you.  Why would you want to be with that ass anyway, when you could be with someone who loves both you and your son, unconditionally.  Let your husband go off into his plastic, superficial world.  I once had a cold, selfish, judgmental husband like yours, and was shocked at how quickly I got over him as he ran off with his girlfriend, leaving me with two babies.  Thirty-five years later, my ex has never changed and has never been able to give himself heart and soul to anyone, and my guess is that creep you are married to is the same way.  

I wonder how you can justify this woman's lies by sayijng what she did was not new.  

So should that be the standard? As long as someone else has done a bad deed it is okay if we do it?  

Derek could have been more responsible and you label him cold and pompous. 

  

But you don't label Stacy lying and manipulative. I find that sad 

  

I wonder if you have had a similar experience and that is why you can justify Stacy's lies so easily. What if Derek was your brother, son, etc.? 

 
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November 29, 2005, 8:43 pm PST

Mary, in my thoughts

Mary, 

  

I really hope you read this.  I just want to tell you I am thinking about you and praying that you will find the strength and healing you need. 

  

This may sound strange, but I really appreciate you having the courage to go on the show and share your story.  I am currently 9 weeks pregnant from my husband having sex with me while I was asleep.  I don't know how many times it happened, but I woke up one night and he was in the middle of it...we hadn't had sex in over a month and then I got pregnant.  Before I found out, I had already left him.  Obviously, there were other problems.  But I had married him and stayed with him for four years for our first son's sake.  I see that was a mistake now. 

  

I don't know what I really want to say.  I know how you feel, or at least think you might feel like I do, confused, betrayed, angry, and like you can't trust anyone.  I pray that both of us find a way to heal and be strong Mom's. 

  

Again, thank you for sharing your story because now I know that I am not alone.  I really felt like this was all so unreal.   

  

I hope you are OK and I really will be praying for you. 

  

 
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November 29, 2005, 9:04 pm PST

11/28 Conception Deception

Of course I think deception is a horrible thing.  It makes no sense to trap someone into a marriage. You can't  make someone love you. 

  

With that being said I think their is more significant issue at  hand.  WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SEX BABIES CAN RESULT.  It seems like a simple statement but judging by all this shock and surprise over the resulting Pregnancys maybe it is still unclear.  SEX  is not free or simple ever.  We as a culture have to stop trying to pretend it is all about pleasure with no responsibility.  If that guy wanted to play  golf instead of having a family he should have been abstinent.   I don't  feel sorry for him one bit. He knew he  was in a risky situation.  Why else would he consistantly ask if she was on birth control.  "Honey are you taking those things that increase your risk of Heart attacks and or strokes so that I can enjoy your body as much as  I like for as long as I like and walk away without any ties? You are good Let's have at then"   I find the whole thing ridiculous.  He is selfish and mad that he could not continue to be as selfish as he wanted.  

 
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November 29, 2005, 9:17 pm PST

11/28 Conception Deception

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I wonder how you can justify this woman's lies by sayijng what she did was not new.  

So should that be the standard? As long as someone else has done a bad deed it is okay if we do it?  

Derek could have been more responsible and you label him cold and pompous. 

  

But you don't label Stacy lying and manipulative. I find that sad 

  

I wonder if you have had a similar experience and that is why you can justify Stacy's lies so easily. What if Derek was your brother, son, etc.? 

IF he was my brother, son etc I would tell him to not use women for sex.  No one can trick you into a pregnancy if you are not sleeping with them.  He put  his immediate pleasure before his long term plans.
 
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November 30, 2005, 2:28 am PST

conception deception

I just wanted to write to let the woman on your show who's husband had sex with her while she was sleeping (sorry I can not remember your name at the moment) I wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I know how you feel, I mean to a certain extent because everyone feels different, my now ex husband use to do that with me as well. I did not know this until one day I picked up the phone and he was on the phone in the other room talking to his best friend and I heard him telling him how he did it again last night. I know I should have hung up but at the time I had my suspicions that he was having an affair so I listened and that is when I found out what he was talking about. He was bragging that he was able to have sex with me again and I did not wake up. I was horrified and that night I pretended to sleep and sure enough he had sex with me not knowing that I was actually awake and just when he was about to end it (you know what I mean) I yelled get off of me you a**hole. He could not deny it and for several days I did not know what to make of it, I was appalled and angry and I did feel raped. I did not know what to do and then one day a girl came to my door while he was at work and told me that she was sleeping with my husband. I told her that she could have him and to watch her back and that night I packed up my son and I and moved out and moved on with my life. We were only married for 6 months and my son was not his, we did not have any kids together so to me it was quite easy to pack up and leave. I just felt that after only 6 months of marriage and he was doing these things to me that I could never love him like I had or trust him ever again. I do not know what the future holds for you, my heart went out to you and I sure hope that the counseling that Dr Phil arranged for you will help you to sort through your feelings and figure out what to do next. My only advise like you have heard a thousand times I'm sure, is do not stay together because of the kids. and if you do decide to leave I just want you to know that things do get better with time and you will be happy again. I have a saying that it is better to be alone then to be with someone and be lonely,  If you decide to work on your marriage that is great to what ever works for you just be true to yourself and the rest will follow. 

Best Wishes for health, happiness, and love. 

 
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November 30, 2005, 5:44 am PST

double pregnant

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Do you know anybody who is " double pregnant"?? 

What I mean by that is.. Pregnant with one fetus in say.. March.. has sex in May.. and gets "double pregnant".. so she delivers one in December.. and then another one in the following march. 

I bet you dont.. because once the body "thinks" it is pregnant, it does not ovulate again. 

The pill raises the level of hormones in the body such that the body does not ovulate. 

The same thing that keeps women from becoming "double pregnant" is what makes the pill effective. 

The hearsay about being on the pill and becoming pregnant is amplified by women who simply cannot face the fact that they deceived themselves and or their partners about a child. 

Give us the name of the website you quote.  

Try it yourself, ask around, most women know the first and last name of a woman who "got pregnant by accident".. you will find an overwhelming amount of under-employed women with marginal relationships make up this group. 

Women who rely on the 99.9% effacacy rating of the pill as "not 100%" are lying to them selves 

The drug companies call it 99.9% in order to derail lawsuits 

Dr. Phil?? can you ask ROBIN to get in touch with a drug company and check on the way the pill works?? 

  

I don't know much about becoming "double Pregnant", but I do know that a few years ago, there was a news story of a woman giving birth to a "white" child and  an "african American" child at the same time.  She was carrying twins, must have had two seperate eggs, had intercourse with two different men in the same day and boom---she had two seperate pregnancies all in one.  Interesting, Huh????????
 
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