Topic : 06/05 Conception Deception

Jewelerboy, 

You held onto HER, relying on her parachute during the jump--while not wearing a parachute of your own.  Halfway down the fall, she says, "Oh, this is just a knapsack."  Had you been wearing your own parachute (condom!), her knapsack would not have been a failure to you. 

Every talk about birth control that I have ever heard (by professional health care providers and safe sex proponents) says USE TWO FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL.  Anything less is still risky--even with the best of intentions. 

Now, mind you, I am not pointing fingers about your stupidity--or carelessness.  I made the same mistake (i.e., When my partner insisted on no birth control, I did not initially hold my ground to protect myself).  I do, however, take responsibility for the choice I made that contributed to the outcome (unplanned pregnancy). 

If my ex- entered into another relationship with a woman, he would repeat all his same old behaviors that destroyed our union no matter how hard he tried to hold on.  He won't accept responsibility for more than just the smallest of his behaviors being a problem.  I do accept the mistakes I made (big and small) and, therefore, am in a better position to change them for future.  I hope you are able to take the same open, honest look at your own mistakes/ contributions and legitimately learn from them. 

This woman's lying to you (manipulation & control) was despicable, no question about it.... My ex-husband's manipulation, control, and other abuse of me (including sleep-sex rape) was/ is also despicable.  These things are outrageous, all, and should not be perpetrated or tolerated by anyone--regardless of gender.   

Realize that your situation should not be generalized to defame all women and/ or the women's rights issues.  WOMEN'S RIGHTS ISSUES ARE REALLY HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES.  [Or, to quote my coffee mug, "Feminism is the radical notion that women are people."   

Despite the crap my ex-husband has put me through (in some cases, still puts me through), I do not believe that all--or even most--men would be like this.  On the contrary, I believe most men would have a better grasp on how to treat another human being with respect and be willing to at least consider the consequence of their own actions to the other person (male or female).   

I do not allow myself to generalize my negative feelings toward him to men as a whole.  I do, however, let this previous life lesson lead me to be more cautious--on multiple levels--in how I deal with men  (including holding my ground--about birth control, among other things).  TWO FORMS.  Anything less is still being risky. 

LOL     You're cute--I know you're just playing!  The diversionary tactics can only hold out for so long:  

Fifty-fifty chance of being right applies to situations of pure chance only--i.e., if all the people are on equal ground in making uneducated guesses only.  Obviously, people retaining previous knowledge/ exposure/ experience  related to the question will have a greater than fifty percent chance of answering correctly--while those without are stuck at the disadvantaged level of answering correctly purely by chance (fifty-fifty). 

Seriously--are you ready to concede on the real point, now?  

There it is again.. 

We had fully protected sex.. she was on the pill.. remember.. i did my part.. I asked.. 

SHE LIED... when will people get this 

If I lied.. and said I had a vasectomy.. and my date got pregnant.... whould that be a "whoops"?? 

or would ya want to lynch that guy?? 

it is the double standard that drives me nuts 

The person whom the pregnance affects is the one WITH THE UTERUS.. the one who has the most to lose is the female, the one who gives birth, gets sick, gains weight and takes the child home and is responsible fir that life is the woman.. 

The man is not jumping out a the plane...  

she is. 

Women hit men all the time.. read the post to which this applies.. she says she nearly took his head off she hit him so hard.. and she FEELS FINE SAYING SO ! 

If men called the cops every time a woman hit them slaped them or threw something at them it would be more than 10 times the incidence of men on women. 

People think men are wossies when they report an asault 

women think they are martyrs when they are hit 

hence the fully supportable stat 

The person whom the pregnance affects is the one WITH THE UTERUS.. the one who has the most to lose is the female, the one who gives birth, gets sick, gains weight and takes the child home and is responsible fir that life is the woman.. 

The man is not jumping out a the plane...  

she is. 

The person whom the pregnance affects is the one WITH THE UTERUS.. the one who has the most to lose is the female, the one who gives birth, gets sick, gains weight and takes the child home and is responsible fir that life is the woman.. 

The man is not jumping out a the plane...  

she is. 

Lets remember that "one out of three women being sexually assaulted before 18" is not what you think. 

If a guy in your grade 6 class calls you a name than referrs to your gender you have been "sexually assaulted" 

Assault by its definition does not have to include any touching.  

By ignoring how limited the rape stats are and substituting a broadly defined sexual assault groups that deal with violence against women can claim it is way more wide spread than it really is. 

lets try to keep both feet on the ground on this. 

BTW.. no does mean no... yes however does not mean no the next morning when you sober up 

That's not true. 

So many women don't report. So many men don't report. There's so much shame and questioning one's self. The victim victimizes his/herself. They want to ignore it. They want it to go away. It's hard to live with sexual assualt. 

(Sexual harassment typically veers more to words. And it's not any better. It's just a violating. Sometimes more so because who's at fault gets more distorted than ever.) 

Reading through your messages... I have to wonder... I only know one type of person who makes these statements. The psychology of that person... well, it's pretty much a consensus.