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(Original Air Date: 12/01/05) Imagine finding your son passed out in his room with drug paraphernalia surrounding his body. When that happened to one mother, she made an important call for help. Dr. Phil’s son, Jay, was working with a family for his new reality show when the mom, Vikki, phoned to say that her son, Justin, had been lost to drugs. Dr. Phil made a surprise house call and insisted that the teen get help immediately. Find out what happens with Justin, and why Vikki thinks she's to blame for his drug use. Then, a stay-at-home mother of three was drinking bottles of wine and vodka every day -- she would even fill a sports drink bottle with alcohol and take it to her kids' school events. Did she break her deadly addiction? Join the discussion.

 

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December 5, 2005, 3:33 pm PST

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We encourage time with us like playing games and such but it gets difficult when they get to my sons age because they think doing that stuff with parents is not cool!  

  

I think that's great!!  It's true that around that age, being "cool" is way important to them.  Perhaps you should ask your son to plan the activity that he would like to do with you.  You may be surprised at his suggestions!  It may be a very "cool" thing that all of you could do together.  I think that anything he wants to do would be a good start or at least it will give you some insight into what he thinks is "cool".  Don't give up!  Keeping a line of communication open with him is very important but don't forget that being "cool" is very important to a twelve year old. 

  

Another suggestion:  I bet he knows a lot more than you do about a few things like computers, video games, a particular sport, a certain singer or group.   Ask him to "teach" you some things about it.  That time would also be priceless.   

  

Keep up the good work! 

 
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December 5, 2005, 6:49 pm PST

Good for Dr Phil

I've read some posts that sound bitter because Dr. P hasn't personally assisted you with your family members addiction.  Hey, he was able to help one kid - that's more than what most people are willing to do in their lifetime.   

So I say, learn from his example.  If you've got a drugger for a kid, don't dink around...get them in treatment.  You've been shown how to do it step by step...but if you wait for Dr. P to make a house call for you personally, your kid will keep using and eventually it will kill them - don't doubt that for a minute. 

Yah Dr. Phil - let pray that kid gets what he needs.   

 
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December 6, 2005, 4:54 am PST

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I understand what you must be going through,because my son 25 is also an addict and he has made our life so so bad. I know the feeling not knowing if you will hear from her,and all I can say is please keep praying that God will take hold of her life and make her see what is right and what is wrong. I have two other children at home,and my 11 year old knows more about drug use and what it dose to your body then most adults. He is 25 and I can not affort treatment for him,and the state sure seems like they do not care. I will keep praying for your daughter,and get the book called the Purpose driven Life. It really has help me hold on to my faith.

I pray everyday, every minute.  It is taking its toll.  She's so pretty, so young, now so little, I have no idea where she is, my heart is breaking, I don't know how to help anymore.  Everyone and I mean everyone tells me I have to let her go, I can't be there when she calls, if she calls because she just uses me, manipulates me.  they say she has to hit rock bottom, isn't this it? yet?  As for treatment I can relate, her father has money but has washed his hands of her, in fact he has charges against her for stealing $200.00, she's facing jail for that, my only thought, at first I was angry but now at least she would be safe until she's out.  I have nightmares someone has killed her left her for dead.  Somedays I can't even go on.   

Where is your oldest son now?  Does he want to be clean?  How do his brothers feel?  My sons have disowned their sister.   

Scared4Her (Still & Always) 

 
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December 6, 2005, 8:05 pm PST

thanks

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Hi.  I hope you see this.  And I'm sorry to hear about your situation. 

  

To be blunt, your parents need to step up to the plate and do their jobs.  I can imagine it's very difficult for your mom with ALS, but then she needs to enlist your dad pronto!  This is a self-destructing child, and it didn't happen overnight.   

  

While everyone's looking for her, you all need to be developing a plan for what will happen when she shows up.  Ideally, she would go directly to treatment.   You don't mention finances, and I don't know about insurance options, but you (or your parents) need to start calling human services in Charlotte, the county and even check the state.  You can also google this.  But it's best if your parents do this, because they are her legal guardian. 

  

If your parents can't find a rehab center, then they need to take her to a hospital when she shows up and have her committed for a mental evaluation.  This is nowhere near as ideal, but it's better than nothing.   

  

This will require some research and time, I realize.  But nobody is going to send you a magic e-mail with a quick fix in it! 

  

Also...I would strongly recommend that you and/or your parents get to an Al Anon (or Narc Anon) meeting asap!   There are several reasons for this, but in an emergency situation like yours, the  folks in those places are great sources of wisdom and advice.   

  

The one thing you must stress to your parents is that they should not negotiate with her on any of this.  I can practically script what she'll say (I promise not to do this again...I've learned my lesson....blah blah)  She needs professional help and she needs it yesterday.   

  

And even though she's been engaging in adult behaviors, she's a child and a very sick one. 

  

I do wish all of you good luck with this.   There are tons of success stories out there, but with a 14 year old, it starts with parents forcing the child into some kind of treatment.   

thanks for not being rude and by the way our financial situation is not hott. But i appriciate your help and i will take your advice.
 
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December 6, 2005, 8:09 pm PST

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I've read some posts that sound bitter because Dr. P hasn't personally assisted you with your family members addiction.  Hey, he was able to help one kid - that's more than what most people are willing to do in their lifetime.   

So I say, learn from his example.  If you've got a drugger for a kid, don't dink around...get them in treatment.  You've been shown how to do it step by step...but if you wait for Dr. P to make a house call for you personally, your kid will keep using and eventually it will kill them - don't doubt that for a minute. 

Yah Dr. Phil - let pray that kid gets what he needs.   

 u must not have kids
 
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December 7, 2005, 2:40 pm PST

my heart bleeds for you

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     First, I want to thank Dr. Phil for the work that he does overall, and specifically for the intervention in his Dec. 1st show.  My youngest son died in Feb. 2005, laying across his bed.  One of his "friends" who found him was too scaried or ashamed to call 911.  No one was there to intervene or to save him.  He had died alone on his bed.   

     When he was younger, in Jr. High,  he had fooled around with "weed."  Neither the school officials or me and my first wife were able to come up with any hard evidence of any use.  Maybe we were not looking hard enough.  Later in High School, his mother did find lots of evidence and turned him in.  He went to Juvie Hall for a while and the experience seemed to have turned him around. 

     He continued his education and got progressively better and more responsible employment.  He had moved to a different nearby city and seemed to be doing exceedingly well.  He was a very popular fellow.  Unfortunately, he had drifted away from his mother and me.   

     It was only after his death that I found out that he had tried some stuff that was deadly.  He had to have known how risky it was.  I don't know what we could have done differently.   

     I cried several times watching that show.  I was thinking of how lucky that young fellow was to get such a timely intervention.  Another message reply on this message board said that it was no big deal; it was only a little weed.  Oh, how I wish that we could have intervened back when my son's problem was "just a little weed." 

     I miss my son so much.   

     navyman2 

I did watch the show on the 1st and cried as well.  My youngest son turned 19 yesterday.  I have had a "sense" that I would lose him at a young age since he was an infant.  He is ADHD, intelligent, extremely talented, athletic and the list goes on.  He has so many gifts that any child would feel blessed to just have one of his gifts.  Unfortunatelly he likes drugs and alcohol  We began dealing with this when he was 14.  First with alcohol then drugs.  We have punished, restricted, had counseling, treatment with medication for the ADHD.  The ADHD treatment helps a great deal, but nothing helps the interest in drugs because he doesn't think there is a problem.  At one point we even withdrew him from school and sent him to a wilderness program during his senior year in high school.  From there we tried to send him to a specialty school but he ran away.  It's a long story and it isn't over yet.  My husband and I have done everything we know to do.  We have been actively involved parents.  I even quit working just to be available to my teenagers.  Money has not been a problem, so he has had all the medical care he could dream of.  We have not been perfect parents but neither have we had our heads in the sand.  No matter what we did, sooner or later he just returned to some sort of drug use.  Ultimately he got arrested for a non-drug related issue for which he has 3 years probation.  He has also been arrested for a drug related issue.  He refuses to allow us to drug test him anymore, but the state does that on his probation.  He has graduated from high school and has started college.  His second arrest was after he started college.  We have finally accepted that there is nothing further we can do until he recognizes that he has a problem.  We have told him that he may not come home unless he is willing to live by our rules, work and/or do his community service.  He did come home for Thanksgiving and did some of his required community service.  I don't know if he is figuring it out yet, I'll get some indication when I get his grades.  I cannot control my son but I can control what I do.  I told my son that I would not have a husband or friends that treated me with disrespect and although he is my son, he will not be allowed in our home if he treats us with disrespect.  I still have that uneasy feeling but I have accepted that I have done all that I can do.  I am available to him should he desire help.  The rest is up to him and I pray everyday that God will soften his heart and lead him in the way he should go.  I am very sorry for your loss and my fear is that I will suffer the same loss.  We did try to intervene, but unless he wants help it doesn't help much and there is very little now that I can do.  I can only hope and pray that it has been enough.
 
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December 8, 2005, 8:15 am PST

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I did watch the show on the 1st and cried as well.  My youngest son turned 19 yesterday.  I have had a "sense" that I would lose him at a young age since he was an infant.  He is ADHD, intelligent, extremely talented, athletic and the list goes on.  He has so many gifts that any child would feel blessed to just have one of his gifts.  Unfortunatelly he likes drugs and alcohol  We began dealing with this when he was 14.  First with alcohol then drugs.  We have punished, restricted, had counseling, treatment with medication for the ADHD.  The ADHD treatment helps a great deal, but nothing helps the interest in drugs because he doesn't think there is a problem.  At one point we even withdrew him from school and sent him to a wilderness program during his senior year in high school.  From there we tried to send him to a specialty school but he ran away.  It's a long story and it isn't over yet.  My husband and I have done everything we know to do.  We have been actively involved parents.  I even quit working just to be available to my teenagers.  Money has not been a problem, so he has had all the medical care he could dream of.  We have not been perfect parents but neither have we had our heads in the sand.  No matter what we did, sooner or later he just returned to some sort of drug use.  Ultimately he got arrested for a non-drug related issue for which he has 3 years probation.  He has also been arrested for a drug related issue.  He refuses to allow us to drug test him anymore, but the state does that on his probation.  He has graduated from high school and has started college.  His second arrest was after he started college.  We have finally accepted that there is nothing further we can do until he recognizes that he has a problem.  We have told him that he may not come home unless he is willing to live by our rules, work and/or do his community service.  He did come home for Thanksgiving and did some of his required community service.  I don't know if he is figuring it out yet, I'll get some indication when I get his grades.  I cannot control my son but I can control what I do.  I told my son that I would not have a husband or friends that treated me with disrespect and although he is my son, he will not be allowed in our home if he treats us with disrespect.  I still have that uneasy feeling but I have accepted that I have done all that I can do.  I am available to him should he desire help.  The rest is up to him and I pray everyday that God will soften his heart and lead him in the way he should go.  I am very sorry for your loss and my fear is that I will suffer the same loss.  We did try to intervene, but unless he wants help it doesn't help much and there is very little now that I can do.  I can only hope and pray that it has been enough.
 
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December 8, 2005, 4:53 pm PST

Compassion rather than criticism

No Wonder she acts the way she does.  If I lived with my mom and dad, I would be fruited to.  I am not giving her an excuse but an explanation.  This woman needs help not our criticism.  First she needs to is to move out of the house with her father and mother.  Maybe I am wrong  but I feel more compassion than anger towards her. 
 
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December 9, 2005, 11:05 am PST

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I saw the show the first time you were on and have to say I felt sorry for all of you. I didn't feel hatred toward you like many others did in the first show because I saw the way I used to be. I was a lot like that to my first son. I was only 19 years old when I had him (way too young!) and I definitely was NOT perfect. I used to feel a lot of inner rage myself. I congratulate you for sticking with the counseling and trying to control your rage. If you feel anything like I felt previously, you probably feel hopeless sometimes. Finally, after years of counseling I also added an anti-depressant to my mental health care! It has done wonders for me. But the most important "thing" I have done for myself is to have a true and loving relationship with God. I wish you the best in everything and Merry Christmas!!!  Your willingness to continue in your journey to personal development is an inspiration to many parents and women out there. Dont give up! You're not alone!!!
 
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December 10, 2005, 4:15 am PST

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first of all you should not be ashamed or embarressed,because you have relapsed dose not mean you should feel bad. Go back to the meeting and talk this out,because I am sure you are not the only one that has relaped. You can not do this on your own and you should not have to do this on your own. Go back to the meeting and say I have not  been up front with everything that I have been doing,and I need support . Your never alone because God loves you and he will never ever forsake you. You just did admitte to everyone that reads this message board that you have a problem,and that is your first step. You did it!  Have faith in yourself,because I do. I have a 25 year old son that does drugs and I would give anything if he would go to meetings. He just tells me he can stop anytime,that he dose not have to take them,but I know better. I am going to school to became a social worker to work with people with drug problems, if I can help one person it will be worth it. Keep your head up,you sound like your a very smart person and you can do this. Maybe someday you will beable to help others? Go to the meeting.
You admitted already that you have a problem and to me that is the main thing. I don't know to many people who have not relapsed in there addictions. You cannot be so hard on yourself. Pick yourself up, wipe off the dirt and start again. I honestly believe you want to quit useing just by your message and it is very hard, believe me it has only be a month for me and it's not easy but I have support in my meetings and my family and I take it one day at a time. No, it's not easy but your not a failure, you've done the hardest thing yet, you admitted to yourself and someone else already that you have lost control of the situation. I  would throw away the drugs you have left and seek some medical help if you need that type of help. I went through a Detox Program here in PA for 10 days and it helped me tremendously coming down off of cocaine and alcohol. I went through a hospital in my area that had a program, you may want to check your local hospitals or rehab centers. If your scared to do it on your own, (which I really wouldn't recommend), please call a center to help you. Please let me know how your doing. E-mail me or put a message on here again so I know you received this. jackimg@yahoo.com
 
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