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The First Wives are back and better than ever! After all their hard work during the “First Wives Club,” Dr. Phil and Robin wanted Pam, Holly, Heidi and Donna to have life-changing makeovers.  The experts start with their look, but after this show's amazing gifts and surprises, these women's lives will never be the same! Talk about the show here.

 

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December 2, 2005, 4:15 pm PST

be proud

I ( like so many others) understand what these women are going through.  I was married for 16 years (2 kids) and he just left - no warning.  That was 4 years ago.  I think that it is really necessary for these women to feel significant.  Though I wonder - since they are all newly married how will their support continue for the next couple of years?  I find that some scars reappear in new relationships or with stress and this is information that I wish was relayed by Dr. Phil.  What therpy are they going thru.  not just prizes though I feel that the educations will be very beneficial.  If your life is tied to someone else it is very hard to redefine yourself.  How is this being done? Wish for more info... 

  
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:16 pm PST

Huh???

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How is it that women with so much can feel that they are owed something by anyone? Maybe if they were forced to live in the real world they would have moved on. I don't expect anyone to GIVE me anything, my family and I work hard for what we have, don't you? 

Dr.Phil and Robin you fed right into these women. Give them cars, gas, schooling, hell give them the moon, do you really think it will end there??? They are going to go home and think that this is what they are owed not just from their ex-husbands but form everyone they ever meet. I pitty the next guy. Dr.Phil and Robin you have just given all of those guys on lovematch.com a reason to start looking in the bar seen! I just don't get it. Why would you give these women anything but long term therapy??? Even better strip them of all of their worldly goods, let them worry about how they are going to feed their children, where they are going to sleep tonight and how they are going to keep warm and all of the real life things that people in your country and mine have to worry about, then maybe they will seen how petty and expecting they are being. 

S.G  

Geez!!! You didn't see the first two day series on these women, did ya?  

  

These women WERE stripped of their worldly goods and much, much more!!! They were ALL worried about how they were going to feed themselves and their children, keep warm, SURVIVE! They ARE REAL people, "in your country and mine" who have lost A LOT and are struggling to regain some kind of stability. These women didn't go to Dr. Phil looking for a hand out or material things, just answers to some difficult life situations after being deserted by their spouces.  

  

  
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:28 pm PST

12/02 Dr. Phil and Robin's First Wives Club, Part 3

I just finished with a nasty, hostile divorce in June.  It took just over two years.  I have now become a single-single mother to two boys, ages 8 and 3. (the father has chosen to back out of the kids lives)  I feel lost and alone in this.  I have had to move in with my parents, search for work (I was a stay at home mom) and figure out the right things to let the boys know.  To top things off, my X has filed bankruptcy to get out of the divorce decree judgements. 

  

Watching the show today (part 3)... I just kept thinking, I would love to be one of those women on stage with Robin and Dr. Phil.  Not at all for the things they were given, but for the sense of self worth and new found love for them selves they each now posess.  
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:44 pm PST

12/02 Dr. Phil and Robin's First Wives Club, Part 3

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Basically, in this day of talk and reality shows, the lesson I see being presented is, that if you mess up, get hooked on drugs and booze, marry the wrong guy and/or cheat on your husband, get too fat or way too thin, you will get lots of love and admiration from the audience, new cars, free education, a limo ride to a rehab center and, of course, a new hair-do and make-over!. 
The rest of us have to deal with paying the bills, sending our kids to college, working to make our marriages work, working 2 or 3 jobs, doing without vacations, dealing with disabilities, watching what we eat, and having a home or furnishings that remind us that things could be better. And we get to pay extra in taxes and health insurance and make donations to organizations to help these other folks out. 
Though I think Dr.Phil is a good man and has helped a lot of folks out, I think he also perpetuates the idea that we are all victims and need "stuff" to make us better.  His "courageous" guests must have a pretty good idea that they will be rewarded for "taking control of their lives and finding their true selves" on TV!

You too have the option of applying to Dr Phil, Oprah, whoever to have your story heard. 

  

I doubt these people had that as the goal in mind when they applied to be on the show.  If so, their happiness will be short-lived as material possessions will only take you so far. 

  

We all have a choice to get help if we need it -- it could be from a neighbour, a friend, family, a counsellor, Dr. Phil.  Unlike some other guests, I felt that these women deserved the items they received.  And I think by telling their story that they are empowering a lot of other women.   

  

Some people seem embittered by these women's good fortune -- help from Dr Phil, and some gifts to get them on their way.  Well, that's life!  It isn't always fair, but you make of it what you can with what you have.   

  

If life is not giving you what you want then go out and get it.   
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:46 pm PST

Come Again???

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How is it that women with so much can feel that they are owed something by anyone? Maybe if they were forced to live in the real world they would have moved on. I don't expect anyone to GIVE me anything, my family and I work hard for what we have, don't you? 

Dr.Phil and Robin you fed right into these women. Give them cars, gas, schooling, hell give them the moon, do you really think it will end there??? They are going to go home and think that this is what they are owed not just from their ex-husbands but form everyone they ever meet. I pitty the next guy. Dr.Phil and Robin you have just given all of those guys on lovematch.com a reason to start looking in the bar seen! I just don't get it. Why would you give these women anything but long term therapy??? Even better strip them of all of their worldly goods, let them worry about how they are going to feed their children, where they are going to sleep tonight and how they are going to keep warm and all of the real life things that people in your country and mine have to worry about, then maybe they will seen how petty and expecting they are being. 

S.G  

 How can you dare say that about these women who have been through so much?  You've obviously never been through anything tragic in you life, otherwise, you would know what it's like to live in "the real world."
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:53 pm PST

Ladies!!!!

Dear Ladies of the First Wives Club~~ 

  

Unbelieveable!  Each one of you!  Absolutely unbelievable!   Your transformations!!!! 

  

Before pictures:  haggard, worn, hard, bitter, weighed down, utterly crushed, defeated... 

  

After pictures:  INCREDIBLE!!!!!  FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..... LIFTED....SO LITE....WHERE IS THE WORRY!!!!!!   AND YOU ALL LOOK SO TRIUMPHANT!   What a bunch of losers your exes ARE! 

  

YOU GO GIRLS!  YOU MAKE US ALL PROUD!  THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY 52 YEARS OF LIVING THAT I AM PROUD TO BE A WOMAN!  THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT GIFT TO ME!    
 
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December 2, 2005, 4:54 pm PST

A mans point of view.

I was very delighted to see these woman with such hope and determination. I know they deserve it and they will pass on their good fortune. Dr. Phil and his wife should be greatly admired for their contribution to theses ladies lives. I am curious abou the men. Will they continue this behavior only to devastate other ladies. I dont make exucses for what they did or how they treated their partners at the time. However most men learn how treat woman from what they see. Not all but some. Will these ladies husbands continue in their behaviors of devestation. Even though these wives may be set forth on a positive direction towards the future. the problem is not solved it is just gone. These wives will move on and I am sure they wont allow it to happen to them again. However the men are left to continue thier behaviors. I am 39 years of age and just now starting to look for help for my addictions and  my negative behaviors. I am very ashamed to say that I have seen amny of my ex partners in these ladies from the first two shows and I cried like a baby just knowing that I may have devastated their lives due to my issues. So now I am searching for the much needed help so that I can break those addictions and my behaviors. I know that at this point I can not have a healthy relationship until I myself am healthy. I know I want to treat woman with dignity, honor, trust, love, compassion, and integrity that they deserve. I an on a tough road ahead of me but it will be worth it in the end.  A relationship will blossom someday when the task has been fulfilled. Thanks for allowing me to contribute to this discussion. rufus.inc@cablespeed.com
 
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December 2, 2005, 5:05 pm PST

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How is it that women with so much can feel that they are owed something by anyone? Maybe if they were forced to live in the real world they would have moved on. I don't expect anyone to GIVE me anything, my family and I work hard for what we have, don't you? 

Dr.Phil and Robin you fed right into these women. Give them cars, gas, schooling, hell give them the moon, do you really think it will end there??? They are going to go home and think that this is what they are owed not just from their ex-husbands but form everyone they ever meet. I pitty the next guy. Dr.Phil and Robin you have just given all of those guys on lovematch.com a reason to start looking in the bar seen! I just don't get it. Why would you give these women anything but long term therapy??? Even better strip them of all of their worldly goods, let them worry about how they are going to feed their children, where they are going to sleep tonight and how they are going to keep warm and all of the real life things that people in your country and mine have to worry about, then maybe they will seen how petty and expecting they are being. 

S.G  

I kind of get what you are saying. If it was a child molester molesting children then all the responses would be "he/she made that choice to do what they did". Most comments would be without compassion. How dare we judge in this day and age. I kind of think that these woman made a choice to put up with it for as long as they did. However I am sure that Robin carefully screened these woman and if the time, energy and effort were not warrented then I am sure it would not have been invested. We all go through much in life and sometimes life is not fair. We try the best to our abilities to make the best out of the hand we are dealt. It does not mean that we always make the right choice. I am sure that the investment does not end with these ladies these ladies will be able to keep the cycle of what they have learned to continue to flow. I do not think Dr.Phil and Robin would enable these woman in any way. For one you dont know the whole truth you only know what you have seen. You are not sitting with these ladies in the many hours of therapy they will have to endure. There is so much negativity in this world that it is good to see someone do something for someone else without being judgemental. Maybe one of these ladies will help your wife, daughter, mother, or sister. If not how dare we judge the goodness and humaine decissions of another for the better of mankind. Yes there is so much bad out there but if we take it one step at a time then that in itself is a beginnig. rufus.inc@cablespeed.com
 
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December 2, 2005, 5:05 pm PST

Life worth living

Hi fellow Women; I was so moved by the First Wives Club, but not that I'm divorced but that I'm widowed. We all have to come to terms with what happens to us or what we lose, but for these women I hope there men know 'IT'S NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE. 

HAS ANYONE TRIED THE MAKEUP THAT ROBIN SPOKE ABOUT 'REPECHAGE: '???HAPPY HOLIDAY TO THEM AND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 
 
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December 2, 2005, 5:08 pm PST

12/02 Dr. Phil and Robin's First Wives Club, Part 3

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I just finished with a nasty, hostile divorce in June.  It took just over two years.  I have now become a single-single mother to two boys, ages 8 and 3. (the father has chosen to back out of the kids lives)  I feel lost and alone in this.  I have had to move in with my parents, search for work (I was a stay at home mom) and figure out the right things to let the boys know.  To top things off, my X has filed bankruptcy to get out of the divorce decree judgements. 

  

Watching the show today (part 3)... I just kept thinking, I would love to be one of those women on stage with Robin and Dr. Phil.  Not at all for the things they were given, but for the sense of self worth and new found love for them selves they each now posess.  

Just remember God never ever gives us more then we can handle. It may seem like it at the time, but in time you will BE ALL THAT. I to have to find my self worth as my husband died in January 2005, so we all have obstacles to get over. In my prayers. Maria
 
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