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Topic : 12/02 Dr. Phil and Robin's First Wives Club, Part 3

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The First Wives are back and better than ever! After all their hard work during the “First Wives Club,” Dr. Phil and Robin wanted Pam, Holly, Heidi and Donna to have life-changing makeovers.  The experts start with their look, but after this show's amazing gifts and surprises, these women's lives will never be the same! Talk about the show here.

 

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December 2, 2005, 5:17 pm PST

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I totally support these women in their goal of becoming free and independant. 

  

My frustration lies in the constant portrayal (here in other shows) of topics that seem purely black and white.  Who could possibly have any doubt that these women's husbands were cads. 

  

What about the reality if marital breakups where the wife decides to leave.  The man isn't a louse, alcoholic, or wife beater.  Merely a person who maybe closed emotionlally, not engaged in the sharing and give and take of a real partnership.  I myself left such a marriage three years ago, and am still plagued with the guilt of breaking up my family.  I do not hate my husband, ( I don't think he hates me either), he was an okay guy, but after 30 years of lonliness, I finally had the courage to say, I deserve to have a real partner in my life.  My grown children totally understand, I have lots of meaningful relationships with my female friends.  I 've been thru a lot of couseling, and I feel I did the right thing to save myself from the diminished existence I was living.  This more grey area of marital breaksup is never really portrayed.  I wish Dr. Phil would explore this a little, as I would like insight on how to TRULY move on, when you are the one who did the leaving.  The fantasy of the perfect happy family together, haunts me.  although, the reality was, it wasn't there. 

 
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December 2, 2005, 5:48 pm PST

Thanks for the male perspective

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I was very delighted to see these woman with such hope and determination. I know they deserve it and they will pass on their good fortune. Dr. Phil and his wife should be greatly admired for their contribution to theses ladies lives. I am curious abou the men. Will they continue this behavior only to devastate other ladies. I dont make exucses for what they did or how they treated their partners at the time. However most men learn how treat woman from what they see. Not all but some. Will these ladies husbands continue in their behaviors of devestation. Even though these wives may be set forth on a positive direction towards the future. the problem is not solved it is just gone. These wives will move on and I am sure they wont allow it to happen to them again. However the men are left to continue thier behaviors. I am 39 years of age and just now starting to look for help for my addictions and  my negative behaviors. I am very ashamed to say that I have seen amny of my ex partners in these ladies from the first two shows and I cried like a baby just knowing that I may have devastated their lives due to my issues. So now I am searching for the much needed help so that I can break those addictions and my behaviors. I know that at this point I can not have a healthy relationship until I myself am healthy. I know I want to treat woman with dignity, honor, trust, love, compassion, and integrity that they deserve. I an on a tough road ahead of me but it will be worth it in the end.  A relationship will blossom someday when the task has been fulfilled. Thanks for allowing me to contribute to this discussion. rufus.inc@cablespeed.com

It is interesting that you make this point as I was thinking along similar lines. At some point, the new women must realize that he will potentially hurt her if he could be so vile to the woman he vowed to honor and raise a family with. Change must happen period for him in order to have healthy relationships in the future anyway. I wonder why men are not as vocal about helping each other be accountable and do the right thing in their marriage. I wish you must success with your journey to healing and change. You have made the first step of realizing your flaws. Continue to do the "next right thing" Keep us posted on the progress so you too can be celebrated! 

  

I haven't watched the show yet( recorded it though) so thanks everyone for warning me to have the kleenex handy :)  

  

BTW, I'm a first time poster here... I really am so glad that Oprah hooked Dr. Phil up and presented him to us. He certainly has risen to the challenge of taking it a step further. Robin is a blessed woman indeed! 

 
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December 2, 2005, 5:52 pm PST

first wives

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Point blank....Dr. Phil saved my life with his words after reading his book's however after the first show of the first WIVE's it was Robin's face and Robin's words from that show that popped in my head when I was in DANGER in NOVEMBER 15th 05  I pulled on her as a coping stragie.... 

  

So Please Put her on more show's....and something else I have noticed....I now like you very much Dr. phil but really what are you like 30 years older than your beautiful wife or what!  No wonder why her parents were miffed at you....Oh boy!  No wonder....Thank you Robin ...Keep telling it like it is....People really really respond to it and the camera likes you cutie   xoxo 

I think this show hit home to alot of women, funny really,, at the time you think you're the only one this has happened to....when this happened to me roughly about 10 years ago, I was humiliated and ashamed, ashamed that my parents would think me as a failure, my friends would frown upon me,,,and think there was something wrong with me...but tonights show taught me that being heart broken and devastated is a normal human emotion... but misery, and defeat was sthe option  I chose ,,, it took me a while, a bankruptcy, a foreclosure on my home, several moves.. but now as I sit typing this,, I feel like I am ok... I didnt know this back then.....as the uncertainty of my future sent me into a nervous wreck and panic attacks,,, I wish I would've had Dr. Phil & Robin back in 1996 ~ but better late than never,,, I wish those ladies alot of luck as they move on to bigger and better things,,, here's to old friends, new beginnings & Dr. Phil :) 

 

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December 2, 2005, 5:54 pm PST

no......none of them are remarried

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I ( like so many others) understand what these women are going through.  I was married for 16 years (2 kids) and he just left - no warning.  That was 4 years ago.  I think that it is really necessary for these women to feel significant.  Though I wonder - since they are all newly married how will their support continue for the next couple of years?  I find that some scars reappear in new relationships or with stress and this is information that I wish was relayed by Dr. Phil.  What therpy are they going thru.  not just prizes though I feel that the educations will be very beneficial.  If your life is tied to someone else it is very hard to redefine yourself.  How is this being done? Wish for more info... 

  

No......none of these women are remarried.......none are in relationships at all. 

  

I believe if you go back and read all the information on this topic and these shows involving the First Wives Club.....part 1....part 2.....and part 3..............you will find much information there in those pages  

  

Also, I do believe that the women were offered on going therapy in their area. 

  

Does any of this help?  

 
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December 2, 2005, 5:58 pm PST

beauty is not power

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How is it that women with so much can feel that they are owed something by anyone? Maybe if they were forced to live in the real world they would have moved on. I don't expect anyone to GIVE me anything, my family and I work hard for what we have, don't you? 

Dr.Phil and Robin you fed right into these women. Give them cars, gas, schooling, hell give them the moon, do you really think it will end there??? They are going to go home and think that this is what they are owed not just from their ex-husbands but form everyone they ever meet. I pitty the next guy. Dr.Phil and Robin you have just given all of those guys on lovematch.com a reason to start looking in the bar seen! I just don't get it. Why would you give these women anything but long term therapy??? Even better strip them of all of their worldly goods, let them worry about how they are going to feed their children, where they are going to sleep tonight and how they are going to keep warm and all of the real life things that people in your country and mine have to worry about, then maybe they will seen how petty and expecting they are being. 

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I understand what you are saying.  Yes, we all work hard for what we have and I think these ladies did too by working on their inner self and changing their behavior.  Dr. Phil did a wonderful job helping these ladies understand how to empower themselves, BUT he carried it a bit further by giving them expensive makeovers, shopping sprees, etc.  What does that have to do with empowering women?  It just adds to the current trend that women have to be beautiful to be successful and valuable.  While it was heart warming to see them receive such wonderful gifts, what happens when the makeup is gone and the next haircut has to be at Super Cuts cause that is what they can afford?  How are they going to feel when all this dies down and they are on their own?  The education was a great tool needed to earn a better living, but come on, what does how we look have to do with it? 
 

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December 2, 2005, 5:58 pm PST

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It was wonderful what Dr. Phil did for the First Wives Club. Thank you so much for helping those deserving women. 

 
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December 2, 2005, 6:20 pm PST

First Wive's Club...

I could so be a first wife.  I am currently going through a divorce with 2 small children.  We never really got along so I left with the kids and I found out a week after I left that he had cheated on me 8 months previous to me leaving and it was with a co-worker of mine.   

  

I think those women are very deserving of everything that they received and I wish them the best.  The road to recovery is long, but this has showed me that it can be done.   

  

I too, think that Robin should be on more shows.  She is such an inspiration!!  Lots of Love 

 

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December 2, 2005, 6:21 pm PST

sally.........an offer of support

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Hi Dr. Phil 

I relate so much to these ladies, I have been married 45yrs. Yes 45yrs.and my  husband is a pathological liar, and doesn't manage money. Years ago he went to jail for bad checks, he 

wouldn't even go tell his mother, so I did. She said he was sick and needed to be committed. 

I thought I was too "in love" and could handle it and now 40 yrs later, I still live with it. 

The past couple of months have really been hard, He has beat me down mentally, 

and in the past hit me. Thank God for my Mary Kay business and its positive ways, 

I have been able to mantain a life. 

Thanks Dr.Phil  for giving these ladies a new start. 

SAlly Mercer 

Sally , I read with interest that you are in an abusive marriage.......I'm sorry that you're going thru this difficult time as a result. 

  

If you would like to vent, need information regarding abuse.....or would like some support......you are welcome to come on over to the ABUSE message board here on Dr. Phil's site........just go to the category of RELATIONSHIPS/SEX.................under that category......you will find ABUSE listed. 

  

There's no excuse for abuse. 

  

I, like you am thankful that you have your Mary Kay business........and be sure to keep it , too.  Don't allow his influence to change any of that. 

  

Take care. 

  

Maybe we'll see you on the Abuse message board......a place of information and support. 

  

  

All are welcome  

  

  

 
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December 2, 2005, 6:26 pm PST

Hi...

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And to Pam, Holly, Heidi, and Donna on your Spectacular Come Back!   

 

You give hope to all who ever have been in your shoes or perhaps going through the same now.  

A positive end to close another week.  Way to go!!! 

 

Fans to all of you, especially Robin who inspired this show and me daily!! 

 

Michelle 

I just wanted to say....I am a Jersey girl too and boy oh boy your baby there is sooo  cute  xoxo
 
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December 2, 2005, 6:38 pm PST

Bless your heart!

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I was very delighted to see these woman with such hope and determination. I know they deserve it and they will pass on their good fortune. Dr. Phil and his wife should be greatly admired for their contribution to theses ladies lives. I am curious abou the men. Will they continue this behavior only to devastate other ladies. I dont make exucses for what they did or how they treated their partners at the time. However most men learn how treat woman from what they see. Not all but some. Will these ladies husbands continue in their behaviors of devestation. Even though these wives may be set forth on a positive direction towards the future. the problem is not solved it is just gone. These wives will move on and I am sure they wont allow it to happen to them again. However the men are left to continue thier behaviors. I am 39 years of age and just now starting to look for help for my addictions and  my negative behaviors. I am very ashamed to say that I have seen amny of my ex partners in these ladies from the first two shows and I cried like a baby just knowing that I may have devastated their lives due to my issues. So now I am searching for the much needed help so that I can break those addictions and my behaviors. I know that at this point I can not have a healthy relationship until I myself am healthy. I know I want to treat woman with dignity, honor, trust, love, compassion, and integrity that they deserve. I an on a tough road ahead of me but it will be worth it in the end.  A relationship will blossom someday when the task has been fulfilled. Thanks for allowing me to contribute to this discussion. rufus.inc@cablespeed.com
 Your story really touched me.  I think it is a great thing you are about to undertake.  Many men, or even women for that matter just don't seem to get it.  The fact that you finally realize this is the first step and truly a mature thing to do.  Many men do not even get to this point.  I, myself, was in an abusive relationship several years ago.  All that is water under the bridge now, but, believe it or not, I have thought about "your" side of it as well.  The women do go on and hopefully get some help.  But what about the men.  They need help too or the cycle will simplly continue, only with someone else.  I have your e-mail address now and will perhaps drop you a line sometime.  In the mean time, lots of luck and never give up.
 
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