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Topic : 12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

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Created on : Friday, December 02, 2005, 03:47:41 pm
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The lights are low, the champagne is flowing and Dr. Phil's singles party continues, teaching women how to weed out the bad boys and find Mr. Right. Four women who say they can't be themselves when they're around guys are taped as they candidly speak about dating and what they're looking for in a mate. What they don't know is that they are actually being watched by men whom they will later meet. Find out what the men think about these ladies! Next, one of the women gets a special makeover from Robin, and a pep talk from Dr. Phil. Will she be able to earn herself a second date when she's armed with a secret weapon? Then, Dr. Phil sends single women to "target-rich" environments. Some are armed with tips for meeting men, while others have to survive on their own. Which group of women will meet men and even get phone numbers? Plus, test your knowledge and see how well you know men. If you're ready to be a bride instead of a bridesmaid, you don't want to miss Dr. Phil's advice! Join the discussion.


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December 8, 2005, 2:08 am PST

when you least expect it

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I liked the show and it had some informative info. however it seemed to me like there are alot of people out there desperate for a date or to get married. Unfortunately, my luck with dates has been pretty bad and I have done it all from being fixed up by friends, internet dating (all kinds of sites), to meeting people at a variety of places. It just seems I can not find anyone that is compatible with me. So I have given up all of those dating resources. I figure if I am going to meet anyone nice, it will just happen and I am not going to go looking for it, I am not that desperate. I was married for 22 years and about 1/2 of those years I was miserable. I lost myself, I forgot who I was. So I think  why would I want to have another man come into my life to tell me what I can and cannot do. Maybe I am alittle negative and lack the trust that not all men are control freaks...but I am very careful and yes I am very picky when it comes to men. Maybe I'll go to the book store and read alittle of Dr. Phil's book. My life is good and I am a bit afraid to lose that goodness I have.

It will all work out for u I was 28 when I meet my wife and son.  before we got married, after work I would take the time to just brush her hair, and massage  her feet.  We do things to help each other out.  We still are love one anoughter after 14 years, and our son is in high School and living with his real dad,  and when he calls the house and talks to me he still calls me dad and we have that father son bond.  We are so blessed  

  

but I just wanted to let you all know that when you least expect it the person will walk though that door and you will just know like I did that is the one you want to spend the rest of you life with,  we also have a doughter that is 7years old,,,bless yall 

  

  

 
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December 8, 2005, 2:20 am PST

Why is that

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Yeah, but nobody talks at places like the shoe shine parlour.  That brings up another problem.  Say you are in a target rich environment.  I'm not one to walk up to someone and start a conversation.  I always figured if a guy was interested, he'd approach me.  I guess I'm too insecure to just walk up to a gentleman and start a conversation.  And how do you begin?  What do you say?  Maybe I just need some good opening lines to get the ball rolling?????   What do you say to a guy so that he doesn't feel uncomfortable with you "hitting" on him or so that you don't look like a complete desperate fool? 

here is alittle from the male side of things ladies,  I have be asked out by ladies 3 times and all three dates were great,  I can not speek for all men but I think men like to know that they can turn some heads  also.  just watch out for the ones that it goes to there head( you know the ones).  Yall are good at looking through the glass and mirrors. 

  

  

 
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December 8, 2005, 2:29 am PST

ok that is uncool

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WE'RE too tired too!!!!!!!
what does it hurt to help with the cooking and cleaning,  OK men look at it like this you single and looking who is cooking and cleaning for you know,  Grow up and if you don't want her to stay and home (wife) help with the work at home.  it is a 50/50 relationship. 
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:36 am PST

Love Smart

The two episodes of this topic have been both fun and informative to watch.But what about us men folk with a rather simular situation? I am a 50 year old divorced male divorced for almost 22 years and no kids.I've been on so many disasterous dates I could write a book.One lady spent the entire date interveiwing me as a prospective father to her unborn child,I've met comitophobics,neurotics,ladies in a hurry to have a child,too selfcentered or judgemental or simply misrepresented themselves in singles magazines.The last one totally fleeced me when I tried to help her get back on her feet after a nasty divorce.My buddy successfuly found a good wife using a singles magazine before internet dating was concieved.Now at my age I think getting a root canal is a more positive experience than dating at middle age.My counselor tells me that I'm following the same pattern but what that is and why I simply don't understand. 

To complicate matters I am disabled and was forced to retire,I own my own home free and clear but I have a limited income.I consider myself functionally disabled meaning there are a lot of things I simply can't do anymore but yet a number of things I can still do.I suffer from chronic pain,some days are good and others can be really bad.I can still play a musical instrument,walk,camp and go to movies and concerts but I have been out of the loop for a while.I have female freinds,but they are just that,freinds,some married or in relationships,another in a nasty divorce or casual freinds that I don't prefer to date and vise versa. It is a rather awkward feeling when all the folks that I grew up with now have kids and grandkids of their own.Even my former wife e mailed me a year ago for the first time and told me she has a teen aged daughter.I felt a bit cheated because that could have been our child had our marriage not been so rocky. 

I think my fear is that my disability will complicate any relationships that I may pursure.I'm not looking for a wife,just an attractive,easygoing companion and freind.I don't like going to bars since I don't smoke or drink,I also dislike going to church because I'm very soured on organised religion.I was raised in a Catholic family originally.I'm a handsome guy and I can still turn a few of the ladies heads but I'm also overwieght due to my medication and medical condition.Besides reading Dr Phil's new Love Smart book are there any constructive critisims or suggetions.I am perfectly happy with myself and have lived alone for a long time,stay busy and enjoy my own company 

 
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December 8, 2005, 2:47 am PST

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I thought the shows were very well done and I will be buying Dr. Phil's book. I have been a widow for 18 years and have had several very long term relationships through the years. I never married. Retrospectively the men were wrong for me. I am very happy with myself but would also like to get married I think. I do question whether I want to be with someone (the right one) all of the time or if I would be happier by myself. Decisions, decisions.  

  

The clothing the women wore were much too revealing. Why show everything you have? Leave something to the imagination, ladies. Robin looked fabulous, sexy, and classy. Good for you,  

Robin! 

  

Looking forward the reading the book! 

  

  

 
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December 8, 2005, 6:32 am PST

12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

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Good grief, girls can go anywhere and meet guys, where can guys go to meet girls, where the guys are not outnumbering the girls 10 to 1? Do you women just sit at home? Give me a break, it is a womans world. Well, a pretty womans world. God help all the uglie's and us not tall, not so rich men.

Wait a minute--where are all these men?  Outside of the dreaded bar scene it seems like everywhere I go there are zillions more WOMEN, or slightly older men who are there with women.  I don't even have especially "girly" habits; it's not like I'm trying to meet people at the quilting bee. 

  

Where the heck do you go to find promising 20/30-something men if you're no longer in school and have zero interest in casual sex? 

  

I know enough single women who, seriously, are not going to write you off on the basis of looks, height, or, within reason, wallet (that is, you don't have to be rich, just responsible).   

 
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December 8, 2005, 6:45 am PST

12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

"I can't tell you how many women my age opt for take out instead of cooking a meal.  That's because they admit they can't cook.  Men are tired of going to Denny's.  Cook for us.  Clean for us.  We're too tired.  Be the old-fashioned girl we wanted in the first place and you'll find youself  A LOT happier in the end." 

  

Most of us work full-time just like you do and are just as tired (and if you want us to stay home and wait on you, don't complain that women just want men with money--that's pretty much what it takes to allow us to do that).  Take some initiative and split the work, and, not only will we be happier, we'll be much more inclined to make YOU happier.  We're not your maids. 

  

I don't even mind cooking and doing housework, and I wouldn't mind staying home if I were married, but most couples these days can't afford that and there's no reason a woman who works full-time, just as her husband does, should have to come home and do all the chores as well.  Not very romantic. 

 
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December 8, 2005, 7:57 am PST

Clothing

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I thought the shows were very well done and I will be buying Dr. Phil's book. I have been a widow for 18 years and have had several very long term relationships through the years. I never married. Retrospectively the men were wrong for me. I am very happy with myself but would also like to get married I think. I do question whether I want to be with someone (the right one) all of the time or if I would be happier by myself. Decisions, decisions.  

  

The clothing the women wore were much too revealing. Why show everything you have? Leave something to the imagination, ladies. Robin looked fabulous, sexy, and classy. Good for you,  

Robin! 

  

Looking forward the reading the book! 

  

  

FYI: They pick the clothes for the guests. If you brought something that wardrobe didnt like they made you change .. so the clothing choices were the shows choices. just an fyi
 
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December 8, 2005, 10:43 am PST

Beautiful People Don't Need Help?

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And he's been happily married for decades.  What the heck does he know about being dating & being single?  Just b/c you're a famous psychologist doesn't make you an authority on everything.   

  

Good point about helping singles other than the "beautiful people" who need less help than the rest of us. 

I have known quite a few gorgeous women who didn't easily get dates from men they were interested in.  One girl I used to go out with attracted every man in sight.  She was gorgeous!  Every guy at our office fell in love with her.  I took the time to get to know her and I realized that she was meeting the same types of men I met (drunks, losers, players, jerks, much older men, users, etc.).  The ONLY difference was she met many more men than I did.  She did not meet a lot of quality men just because she was GORGEOUS!  She had two failed marriages.  First husband was a drunk.  Second husband fell in love with someone else.  When I became friends with her she was dating a married man.  For 8 years she waited for him to leave his wife.  He never did.  But I can guarantee you that plenty of women were jealous of her.  I realized there was nothing to be jealous of.  So, we all need help in meeting someone.
 
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December 8, 2005, 10:57 am PST

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here is alittle from the male side of things ladies,  I have be asked out by ladies 3 times and all three dates were great,  I can not speek for all men but I think men like to know that they can turn some heads  also.  just watch out for the ones that it goes to there head( you know the ones).  Yall are good at looking through the glass and mirrors. 

  

  

I am happily married now but did go through the whole dating scene and here is some advice that I can give now.  I too was a little shy around the opposite sex but very outgoing in general.  Here goes...You don't have to be the one to speak first....just be yourself around everyone in the room, store, situation...etc...If a guy is there who is interested in you he will begin listening to your conversation with another and if he is interested he will jump in....this way you aren't putting yourself out there and you are giving him some material to start a conversation with.  This way nobody feels awkward, 

 
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