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Topic : 12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

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Created on : Friday, December 02, 2005, 03:47:41 pm
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The lights are low, the champagne is flowing and Dr. Phil's singles party continues, teaching women how to weed out the bad boys and find Mr. Right. Four women who say they can't be themselves when they're around guys are taped as they candidly speak about dating and what they're looking for in a mate. What they don't know is that they are actually being watched by men whom they will later meet. Find out what the men think about these ladies! Next, one of the women gets a special makeover from Robin, and a pep talk from Dr. Phil. Will she be able to earn herself a second date when she's armed with a secret weapon? Then, Dr. Phil sends single women to "target-rich" environments. Some are armed with tips for meeting men, while others have to survive on their own. Which group of women will meet men and even get phone numbers? Plus, test your knowledge and see how well you know men. If you're ready to be a bride instead of a bridesmaid, you don't want to miss Dr. Phil's advice! Join the discussion.


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December 11, 2005, 10:40 am PST

Right

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Tommy if they made a series about (the equivalent of Desparate Housewives) would be called Desparate Pigs....Not that we are pigs, just proceivied that way.
You and rockstarxx are making some excellent observations.  A single man beyond some age around 35 is viewed as being pathological (he's gay, can't commit, refuses to "grow up", is hopelessy attached to his mother, etc, etc) while an exactly equivalent woman is merely  "picky" -- which is really a compliment because we all know the opposite of picky is "easy".

This sexist double standard is the worst one out there IMO.

So much for it being a man's world.


 
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December 11, 2005, 7:42 pm PST

The answer to our problems

I'm sick of men and women pointing fingers at each other, claiming that the other is wrong. Well, I think all of you are RIGHT. Your opinions are just that - even if they are illogical - so there's no way either one of you could be wrong. Sometimes we should just agree to disagree - but only after we acknowledge the other person's opinions. Why do both genders make everything so complicated? A war of the sexes has killed the possibility of romance, except for the couples who are wise enough to not play the blame game.
 
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December 11, 2005, 9:03 pm PST

okay...what's the plan here?

is this about being a hoochie, or is this about finding a mate?  (and i don't mean "mate" as in "national geographic" shows.) 

  

the whole tenor of this was, as i saw it, about how to pick up guys.  all the emphasis on being "sexy' and "flirtatious..." well, gee:  the local "dew-drop-in" is loaded with sexy, flirtatious, and--dare i say it?--loose women.  they put out, then bark about being "used."  well DUH. 

  

okay:  maybe this is about being a high-class hoochie? 

  

i'll check out the book after it's available used on amazon for seventy-five cents. 

  

 
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December 13, 2005, 2:33 pm PST

Mooching Brother

Hi guys!  I just joined.  I wish some of these other boards were more active, since my post has to do with a previous show.  It was about mooching siblings who still live with their parents.  My brother is 26 and moved out of the house for the third time.  The last two he failed miserably and had to move back home.  He basically cannot get a job ever, so when he runs out of money, he just moves home.  My mom helps him monetarily, so he never really learns what it's like to be alone.  It is sooo frustrating for me.  I'm older than him and am married, no children.  I've been working my entire adult life, in fact, I don't think I've ever NOT worked.  My family always picks on me for things like gaining weight, but never seems to notice my loser brother.  I feel like screaming at him "get your life together!!" but it's no use anyway.  I'm wondering how to deal with him during family get togethers.  This last Thanksgiving was a complete wash.  He showed up for an hour or two, then left because I blurted out something to the effect of "when are you going to get a job??"  I hate watching my mom give him money, as she really doesn't have any, and I wonder what'll happen when she isn't around to give him money.  He acts like a little kid.  What's going on here?  Is there anything I can do to help my brother help himself??  Thanks guys! 

 
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December 15, 2005, 1:55 pm PST

Awful

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     Dating may be a learning process, but it doesn't mean that you have to learn the hard way. And please, define "fall." Does that mean tolerating one evening after another of being leered at, ignored via the cell phone, hearing derogatory remarks about anyone or anything, or watching your date drink himself/herself under the table? The whole point of dating is to find out what the other person is about, and if two people have enough in common to sustain a relationship. What's wrong with wanting to spend the rest of your life with someone special? If you've decided not to go that route, more power to you! On the other hand, don't be so quick to rap the rest of us if we choose to search for Mr. Right.
 If that's what you've experienced while dating, God help you. I definitely wasn't referring to any experience like that. Nothing is wrong with wanting to find someone but there is such thing as being happy and single.
 
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December 19, 2005, 5:38 am PST

I get it!

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YOU SAID IT, "HAPPY YOUNG PEOPLE." 

  

YOU ARE MARRIED!!!   GET REAL!!! 

  

YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!! 

   

TRY BEING 51, NEVER MARRIED, NO CHILDREN,  

GRADUATE DEGREE, NEVER DATED, NOT BLONDE, 

ETC, ETC, ETC. 

  

LIFE CAN BE HELL!!! 

  

BLUEANGEL777 

  

  

BLUEANGEL777 I read your post and I saw my potential future in it. I'm 31 instead of 51. My real name is Karen, and I think I saw somewhere that that is your name. I also use a series of number 7's in my username on certain websites.  

  

Some people obviously didn't get the dire tone of your post, but I did.  One person who reponded to your equally angry reply to the woman who suggested meeting men at your childs daycare didn't get your post. When you replied "NO KIDS!!!" he simply said it was like when someone suggests you get a dog to attract potential mates. He never realized the desperation in the post from a woman who is way past the point where she can have a family of her own.  Likewise when someone else replied to this post of yours they thought you were a MAN! Since when has having a graduate degree EVER been a hinderance to a mans ability to get married? But if you were a young woman getting yours back in the 1970's or early 80's a lot of men wouldn't have a stable enough ego to take you on. What man would even be this angry about never being married at 51 when they are the ones that control the course of a relationships and  especially marriage proposals. ONLY a woman would, 

  

I want to say THANK YOU for posting this message. I know it must have been dificult. I know several women around your age that have been without a partner for a long time or have never been married.   The ones I know always show themselves to be in good spirits.  If that is not how they really are and they are angry about it I wouldn't have enough evidence to draw that conclusion.  But your post opened my eyesand it should open other young womens eyes. We women in our 30's especially have a few "battle scars".   Most of our friends have been married for several years, and are having kids. We have been through enough bad relationships to be worn out and cynical. We have started having to answer the "why aren't you married" questions and some of our closest friends and family look down upon us.  Some of us have given up. We wear right hand rings and go to the movies alone. But I won't give up, and you have helped inspire me. Forgive me but I don't want to be that bitter 51 year old who maybe could have done something when she was 31 and didn't because ! 

  

P.S. Maybe you should consider adopting or fostering a child. 

 
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December 19, 2005, 7:28 pm PST

Where IS that guy?

  

  

On Part 1 of Love Smart the gal with the dark hair that had her finger in the food?!  Remember?  Well, I want to know more about the date she had.  He was very intriguing to me.  Who or how do you suggest I go about this whole process?  Love to just email with him.....  Not in ANY hurry - just learning how to go about being a better me and live the best life I can! 

  

  

 
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December 20, 2005, 4:56 am PST

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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On Part 1 of Love Smart the gal with the dark hair that had her finger in the food?!  Remember?  Well, I want to know more about the date she had.  He was very intriguing to me.  Who or how do you suggest I go about this whole process?  Love to just email with him.....  Not in ANY hurry - just learning how to go about being a better me and live the best life I can! 

  

  

I THINK I'M GOING TO BE SICK! 

  

Handsome or not, this guy sat through the date, picked apart every stinking little thing his date did wrong, smirked very smugly throughout the date, and then SMIRKED again as he very confidently said he wouldn't go out with her again! The last statement being made after the woman admited her mistakes and attributed it to nervousness, prior bad relationships, and human nature!  Even if evaluating her dating style was his job, he didn't have to look like he enjoyed it so much.And he probably acted like this because he thinks he can because he is  the man and has control of the dating and doesn't have to do anything to impress. 

  

That date and the date where the beauty queen, after being treated to an awful date, still wanted to give her guy a second chance was the only moment of clarity in those whole two episodes. In other words the women are on pins and needles trying to impress ( no wonder they would be self consious) while the guy can do anything because he calls the shots and will be given a second date. 

  

You want that guy so bad? You can have him!  Just make sure to book your guest spot for the next Dr. Phil relationship problem show. SOME WOMEN NEVER LEARN! 

 
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December 20, 2005, 5:43 am PST

12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

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On Part 1 of Love Smart the gal with the dark hair that had her finger in the food?!  Remember?  Well, I want to know more about the date she had.  He was very intriguing to me.  Who or how do you suggest I go about this whole process?  Love to just email with him.....  Not in ANY hurry - just learning how to go about being a better me and live the best life I can! 

  

  

email the producers they may give him your mail then it is up to him...
 

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December 21, 2005, 1:24 pm PST

12/07 Love Smart, Part 2

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I THINK I'M GOING TO BE SICK! 

  

Handsome or not, this guy sat through the date, picked apart every stinking little thing his date did wrong, smirked very smugly throughout the date, and then SMIRKED again as he very confidently said he wouldn't go out with her again! The last statement being made after the woman admited her mistakes and attributed it to nervousness, prior bad relationships, and human nature!  Even if evaluating her dating style was his job, he didn't have to look like he enjoyed it so much.And he probably acted like this because he thinks he can because he is  the man and has control of the dating and doesn't have to do anything to impress. 

  

That date and the date where the beauty queen, after being treated to an awful date, still wanted to give her guy a second chance was the only moment of clarity in those whole two episodes. In other words the women are on pins and needles trying to impress ( no wonder they would be self consious) while the guy can do anything because he calls the shots and will be given a second date. 

  

You want that guy so bad? You can have him!  Just make sure to book your guest spot for the next Dr. Phil relationship problem show. SOME WOMEN NEVER LEARN! 

No kidding!  I thought that he was a prime A-1 jerk too and I thought the "beauty queen" was pathetic.  Maybe it's my cynicism but I think her interest was sparked by his supposedly being a doctor and had nothing to do with how he made her feel on the date.  Sad.
 
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