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Topic : 08/21 Ask Dr. Phil & Robin with JCPenney Jam

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(Original Air Date: 12/09/05) It's Ask Dr. Phil and Robin day! When they say "anything goes," the guests take full advantage. Melissa says her sex life is boring, and that it's all her husband, Spencer's, fault because he is too uptight. He says he's tired of being a piece of meat. Can they meet in the middle when it comes to the bedroom? Next, Russell says his daughter, Nyla, is a piano-playing prodigy. His wife thinks he's pushing Nyla too hard -- especially since she's only 7 months old! Then, a mother and her teenage stepdaughter compete to see who can eat less in order to lose weight, and Robin tries to set them straight. And, a mother fears for her 13-year-old daughter, Kelli, who drinks, smokes and is missing curfew. See what Dr. Phil has planned for Kelli. Plus, go backstage and get a sneak preview of Dr. Phil and Robin hosting the JCPenney Jam Concert for America's Kids, and learn how this organization is working hard to provide kids with opportunities after school. Talk about the show here.


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December 9, 2005, 5:12 pm PST

No Epidural?????!!!!!

Oh! The horror of it all!!  I can't believe that this poor woman had to suffer so!   I had 4 babies and never had any anesthesia and I never had a short labor.  My first child was 2 months premature and the doctor didn't want me to have any anesthesia, as a safety precaution.  Granted, that was way back in the "dark ages" of medicine -1976.  After that, I figured if I could go through 25 hours of labor and have forceps inserted and then re-inserted and still deliver a 3lb baby and live to tell about it, then I could "go natural" with the others.   I'm not saying it wouldn't have been nice, but I really did forget about the pain once I held my children and nobody had to give me a TV/TVO to soothe me!!  Where have all the "Earth Mothers" of the 60s & 70s gone?
 
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December 9, 2005, 5:49 pm PST

Prudish husband

I'm surprised that Dr. Phil missed the problem and addressed only the symptom.  I have had experience with the same situation for many years.  I have learned that a large portion of the problem is due to "CONTROL".  Just like in my situation, the husband said he wanted to do the chasing, and therefore initiate sex when and where he wanted.  This basically puts the wife in the passenger seat only.  This is extremely unfair and very humiliating. Love making is something to be shared.  If a woman loves and feels excited by her spouse it should be welcomed by that spouse-at least by a warm response and loving feelings.  If not, the sting of rejection, especially by the man, can lead to devastating consequences to both the woman and the marriage.
 
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December 9, 2005, 6:10 pm PST

Drugless childbirth

I could not believe the segment on the poor mom who had a 4 hour labor for her FOURTH child and had to endure the horror of it all without an epidural!  GIVE ME A BREAK!  By the fourth, they practically "fall out" anyway!!  And her husband was no help;  either were Dr. Phil and Robin!  It's not like she did anything unusual or out of the ordinary!!  Lifetime TIVO, a plasma TV and a day at the spa?  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  For doing what millions of women do everyday?  And most don't have the luxury of a hospital, let alone drugs!  I had my two the "natural" way, and I would not do it differently given the choice.  Come on!  How about empowering women Dr. Phil?  Not treating them like poor delicate flowers.  You guys really blew it with this guest.
 
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December 9, 2005, 6:12 pm PST

12/09 Ask Dr. Phil & Robin

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I thought it was interesting (and rather amusing) that the step aunt brought up that "the daughter  comes to us saying she's fat."   DUH! She is a teenager and all she wants to hear is the obligatory "no you're not fat, you're perfect."  Those women are so self-absorbed, instead of reflecting on their own behavior and what Dr. Phil was trying to communicate to them, they were hung up on the audience's reaction.  How can you even be a parent if you are that self-absorbed?
As a middle school teacher I deal with girls on a daily basis on weight issues. These girls are beautiful , they just don't know it. Some refuse to eat lunch in the cafeteria, others might see them, some refuse to eat in school at all. Many of these girls are size 0 or 1, Most will tell me they just don't like themselves. How sad to see. They have so much to offer. I wish we could have watched this section of the show together. It could have led to a great discussion. Hopefully, some saw it.
 
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December 9, 2005, 6:21 pm PST

totally agree

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I thought it was interesting (and rather amusing) that the step aunt brought up that "the daughter  comes to us saying she's fat."   DUH! She is a teenager and all she wants to hear is the obligatory "no you're not fat, you're perfect."  Those women are so self-absorbed, instead of reflecting on their own behavior and what Dr. Phil was trying to communicate to them, they were hung up on the audience's reaction.  How can you even be a parent if you are that self-absorbed?
The step mom and step aunt both need to tell that child that shes not fat because she isnt fat. They are both giving this child the wrong impression about looks and life.
 
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December 9, 2005, 6:40 pm PST

wheres the bad behavior?

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I think what they are trying to do is set people up for success.  I try to do this for my kids but some people don’t have the support system in place to provide this.  Yes they tended to reward people for making mistakes, but if you can turn these people’s life around by a simple kind act then why not?  If I had the means to help people like this I would find it very gratifying. 

  

 

  

 

It is true there are sometime little material rewards for doing what is right but that is not why most people do what is right in the first place.

  

 

  

 

It is really hard to judge people that appear on this show based on 30 second well edited clips of their lives.  I would expect that there is generally more to the story then what is seen on TV.

  

 

  

 

So if your nieces or nephews showed up on your door step needing a place to live you would send them packing if there was not enough room in your house?  Or are you saying you would let them stay but would not go looking for hand outs from others to help care for them?

  

 

  

 

  

 

Just because not all people can afford All the toys doesn't mean they've done something wrong or that they don't deserve a break. Thank you Dr. Phil  for being there  for those who need it ! 

  

 
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December 9, 2005, 6:56 pm PST

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Dear Dr.Phil my name is Sara I am 16 years old and I am a big fan. I was watching you from home and I was in disbelief that Janie and her stepdaughter Britney were competing over who lost the most weight and who ate the less. I was mad over the fact that Janie was only contributing to Britney's ability to have an eating disorder.  I belief that Janie is a hypocrite, she wants her stepdaughter to be healthy and not self conscious but the only thing that she is teaching her is the exact opposite by competing with her, instead of telling her how beautiful she is.  I would love to meet both of them so that I could tell them both that being skinny isn't really as glamorous as Hollywood makes it seem. As I said I am 16 years old and I weight between 85 and 90 pounds and I am a size 0 , I have been skinny my entire life (thankfully I am a healthy person and I don't have an eating disorder) and I have suffered teasing and ruthless comments.  When I saw her I was completely dumbfounded, when I saw Britney I said to myself I wish I looked like her.   
 

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December 9, 2005, 7:53 pm PST

Birth is different for everyone everytime

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I could not believe the segment on the poor mom who had a 4 hour labor for her FOURTH child and had to endure the horror of it all without an epidural!  GIVE ME A BREAK!  By the fourth, they practically "fall out" anyway!!  And her husband was no help;  either were Dr. Phil and Robin!  It's not like she did anything unusual or out of the ordinary!!  Lifetime TIVO, a plasma TV and a day at the spa?  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  For doing what millions of women do everyday?  And most don't have the luxury of a hospital, let alone drugs!  I had my two the "natural" way, and I would not do it differently given the choice.  Come on!  How about empowering women Dr. Phil?  Not treating them like poor delicate flowers.  You guys really blew it with this guest.

Not all third and forth babies just fall out.   Some are more painful then others.  You presume to walk in every woman's shoes.   In places where there is no hospital and no drugs women and babies die at a much higher rate.  You have no right to judge women for choosing a safe and proven way to have their babies.  Babies don't come out drugged they nurse vigorously and make your breast every bit as sore as those born with out the aid of drugs.  There is no medical reason for avoiding an epidural, it is purely a matter of being the toughest girl on the block and guess what you win and I don't care. 

 

  

 

There are also those that think it is pretty weak to have Novocain for a tooth filling when that only takes 20 to 30 minutes. 

  

 

 

  

 

I personally want to be treated like a delicate flower every now and then.  I can feel empowered another time. 

  

 

  

 
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December 9, 2005, 8:05 pm PST

whatever

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I was abit confused with both Mr & Mrs McGraw's response to the use of drugs during childbirth after the guest wrote in to say she missed having her epidural because she stayed home to watch the "Dr. Phil' show...Robin always talks about  how her health motivates her  to stay healthy and Dr. Phil has had numerous shows on drug interventions and yet here they both are more or less advocating the use of drugs for childbirth........and the woman in question didn't want to continue with her delivery ( like she has any control over that !) until she had been given her drug........she was only in labour for a few hours ....... I think both Mr & Mrs McGraw were way off on this one....babies should come into this world the way nature intended ..not half asleep because their mum couldn't bare a little discomfort.......shame on both of you!

I do believe in epidurals , if i wouldnt have had one i would ve ended up with another c section i was in so much pain i didnt dilate , for you to say "their baby  was born all half asleep just because thier mum couldnt bear a little discomfort"  

a little discomfort is an understatment for those who have actually been through hrs of hard labour.my daughter came out alert crying and atentive , the numerous shows on intervention have to do with substance abuse, not medical treatment  for a woman in pain ,and if babies all came the way nature intended there would be alot more complications for both mother and child,that s why we have technology , mabea you should consider all factors before you make such a bold statment,  so shame on you  

 
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December 9, 2005, 8:41 pm PST

I'm in the same boat

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I'm surprised that Dr. Phil missed the problem and addressed only the symptom.  I have had experience with the same situation for many years.  I have learned that a large portion of the problem is due to "CONTROL".  Just like in my situation, the husband said he wanted to do the chasing, and therefore initiate sex when and where he wanted.  This basically puts the wife in the passenger seat only.  This is extremely unfair and very humiliating. Love making is something to be shared.  If a woman loves and feels excited by her spouse it should be welcomed by that spouse-at least by a warm response and loving feelings.  If not, the sting of rejection, especially by the man, can lead to devastating consequences to both the woman and the marriage.

I know the lady on the show was laughing and joking probably becuase she wanted to make her husband feel more comfortable but inside i know how she was feeling.  It makes alot of  sense about the issue of Control.  I think my husband uses sex as a means of controlling my self esteem. It is really work to try and make myself feel complete and vibrant and sexy day after day of being rejected and shunned in the sex dept.   I am really greatful that another man has not come along and said some sexy words to me and initiated an affair cuase I may have been gone.   I really love my husband and have  no desire to cheat on him...have never found anyone else i find the least bit tempting but I am tired of feeling like a freak.  I tried to Spice things up in my marriage as well by introducing a vibrator.  I thought that he may find that exciting.  he got up out of bed...looked at me like i was on fire and ran naked from the room.  i felt like a real pervert and now i wouold be afraid to suggest anything.  he was not so uptight when i married him.  i feel it has something to do with me having his children...now i am a mother.  it's not fair...and i am pissed about it.  i wish i could talk to woman from the show. 

 
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