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(Original Air Date 01/04/06) Have you ever stepped on the scale and thought, "That number can't be right"? You don’t have to wait until the new year to resolve to lose weight or eat healthy. Kristine stopped making excuses for her weight and lost over 100 pounds, thanks to Dr. Phil's words of wisdom. See what Dr. Phil has in store for her. Then, Nicole is only 25 but morbidly obese. After a wake-up call from her family, friends, and Dr. Phil, will she find the courage and motivation to get healthy? And, is it possible to reach your weight loss goal and still be miserable? See one woman's shocking reality. Through the stories of these three women, losing weight becomes an emotional as well as a physical journey. Share your weight loss stories and challenges here.

 

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September 1, 2006, 6:03 pm CDT

08/22 Unforgettable Weight Stories

Quote From: junecfl

By the way, just to clarify further on this 'government' issue.  Government regulates insurance.  They set maximum premiums and mandate what MUST be covered.  If it were strictly up to insurance companies, which are FOR PROFIT enterprises, there would be much less covered than we currently have.  It was insurance companies who tried to get women to leave the hospital within hours of giving birth.  Also, as I mentioned previously, insurance companies did not pay for reconstructive breast surgery after a mastectomy either until Government made them.  I'm sure there are many other conditions and treatments that were initially denied by insurance companies but, that doesn't make it right. 

 

I don't know if you all get similar law firm commercials to the ones we get here but, as one of the lawyers says "insurance adjusters are there to make money for their companies and pay the consumer as little as possible" and that's absolutely right.  Not that there's anything wrong with making money, after all, that's what they are in business to do but, sometimes they need to be 'nudged' into doing the right thing and that's where Government comes in. 

Ok, well, I used to be a cutter. I have scars on my arms and legs. Should the insurance companies be forced to fix that for me?

They cause me emotional pain, reminders of mental illness, I have to explain them to some people who notice them.

Fair is fair.

How about forcing them to fix a tatoo that someone I know got while drunk?
 
September 3, 2006, 4:49 am CDT

everyone is an individual

Quote From: purplepenny

That is not what I said. I said people who would rather stay fat rather than deal with loose skin are shallow. Loose skin is not dangerous or deadly...it's ugly yes, but not deadly. Fat is deadly, even a little bit can have effects on a person's healthy.

I totally agree that obesity can be caused by emotional problems. It's just as much possible that it's an eating disorder as anorexia. People cope with emotions different ways. I eat. I suffered a huge betrayal by my parents for years and I didn't realize it..I ate and still do eat out of frustration..I am numb when I eat.

I just don't like this idea that losing weight becomes sour grapes because of loose skin. When people go through addictions and emotional problems there will always be scars...the loose skin is a scar...or, simply a price to pay for those who didn't take care of themselves.

There are a lot of board here that are about weight loss and such. Some of them seem to be very wonderful communities. I haven't joined any myself, but I know that there are a few that are very successful and busy.

   I don't think that we should minimize an issue that someone may have just because we may not feel the same way. As adults we should know by now that certain things affect people differently. To say that dealing with physical scars for all the world to see from being overweight is just a price to pay for not taking care of ourselves is very insensitive. This is an issue in someones life that hopefully one day they may learn to deal with. Be it surgery, or just accepting it. 

   I have to admit an issue for me that I need to gain control of is dealing with people who are very adamant about their opinion of someone, when they could not possibly live in that persons body, or mind.   

 
September 4, 2006, 5:14 pm CDT

08/22 Unforgettable Weight Stories

Quote From: mellorose2

   I don't think that we should minimize an issue that someone may have just because we may not feel the same way. As adults we should know by now that certain things affect people differently. To say that dealing with physical scars for all the world to see from being overweight is just a price to pay for not taking care of ourselves is very insensitive. This is an issue in someones life that hopefully one day they may learn to deal with. Be it surgery, or just accepting it. 

   I have to admit an issue for me that I need to gain control of is dealing with people who are very adamant about their opinion of someone, when they could not possibly live in that persons body, or mind.   

Well, this is a message board...and we are talking frankly or at least I thought we were. I would hardly be blunt or mean to someone.

But it's a fact of life, if you get very obese your body will pay the price for it in some way forever...it's true whether I say it or not....I can't help that people have thin skin about this. I have toughened myself up so I won't be shocked out of my mind after I lose weight and my body is still not pretty. It's not about pretty to me and it shouldn't be about pretty to anyone else. JMO


 
September 6, 2006, 9:09 am CDT

government

The government has limitations on how involved they can get, however, any condition that threatens one's health should be covered by insurance.  This could make the premiums higher, though.  As was already stated, Insurance companies are "for profit" organizations, and somebody has to supply the money for their profit (us).

 

Just this year, the government has mandated that mental health doctor's visits should be covered at the same rate as other medical issues, for larger companies' employee health coverage.  I am really glad that reconstructive surgery after mastectomy is now covered, as I am going through that myself, right now.

 

Some insurance companies will cover doctor supervised weight loss, but not gastric bypass.

 

I've lost 50 pounds since last year...only 20 more to go...I've been slowed down a little because of the surgeries involved with the breast cancer, but I haven't gained any of it back.  Diligence with a healthy diet, and exercise...those are key to weight loss...patience and love of self (inner self) are key too.  Try counseling to get to the bottom of your eating problems...it could help.

 

Good Luck!

 
September 6, 2006, 1:40 pm CDT

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Quote From: purplepenny

Maybe it's time for a graphic wake up call.

Download and print graphic pictures of people who have died of obesity, their inner organs. Get materials from your family Dr that explain that he is killing himself.

If he was driving full speed towards a brick wall you'd do anything for him, anything to make his stop.

There is a brick wall...I promise.

Give him these pictures and materials with a letter from you, explaining that he is breaking your heart and scaring you deeply.

He might need therapy to help him with his denial. Make his healthy top priority because he is literally killing himself...as sure as if he was going to pull a trigger on a gun.

 It is not like have haven't done that.He has seen all the pictures and I did get him to see a doctor.Whe the doctor  put him on meds he just filled them and let them set.When I talk to to about what he is doing to himself he just says my whole family is fat get over it.Last night I said to him do you really need that peace of cake he said leave me alone.I am hungery.He just had dinner.and had two peaces of cake.I can't change someone who rfuses to do for themselves.I am not his mom. I have three kids to raise.

 
September 6, 2006, 1:53 pm CDT

MY little sister

My sister was gaining weight alot of it and so was her daughter.She always complained she was fat and do nothing.Well her doctor finally had enough.You see she had had two back sugeries.She and her daoughter were up to 200 pounds.He told her what she need to hear.That her back was going agian and if it went they couldn't do onther sugery on it. her asma was out of control and it was because of her weight.and her heart was under a lot of stress.I guess he was nice about it.She was mad and went over to our moms house and complained about the doctor.Mom told her she had better listen or she was not going to be around to raise her kids and mom was to old to do it and said she would let them be but in a foster home. That woke her up.She reallized as mad as she was at the doctor and mom she needed to lose the weight. It has been a year now and she went from 200 pound to 150 pounds and so has her daughter.She told me her goal it to get down to 140 pounds.She told me it was easy all she had to do was stop eating all day and setting around watching tv and complaining about her weight.She walks everydayfor about an hour. and has cut out all the junk food she was eating.
 
September 6, 2006, 3:32 pm CDT

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Quote From: purplepenny

Well, this is a message board...and we are talking frankly or at least I thought we were. I would hardly be blunt or mean to someone.

But it's a fact of life, if you get very obese your body will pay the price for it in some way forever...it's true whether I say it or not....I can't help that people have thin skin about this. I have toughened myself up so I won't be shocked out of my mind after I lose weight and my body is still not pretty. It's not about pretty to me and it shouldn't be about pretty to anyone else. JMO


Obviously you are having a problem letting it sink in that reconstructive surgery after massive weight loss is NOT about PRETTY.  It is about being functional and about avoiding the painful skin lesions that occur from skin rubbing on skin.  Of course there have to be parameters. 

 

There are degrees to the way people are affected.  Someone who is unhappy with their bit of arm jiggle isn't the same as someone who is in pain from lifting their arms b/c of the excess weight from the sagging skin or someone who is having a hard time walking because of the excess flesh on their thighs.  It is most definitely not about pretty.  If you've seen the 'after' pictures from surgery after massive weight loss, the bodies are usually not 'pretty' but they are more functional and less freakish and that's what it's all about.

 
September 6, 2006, 3:37 pm CDT

08/22 Unforgettable Weight Stories

Quote From: wintterose

Why do people feel overweight is "SELF INFLICTED" unless we wake up one day a decide to eat ourselves to that point which we wouldn't want to recover from that anyway, it is not caused by oneself.  I think health insurance companies should allow for "RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY" after losing weight to the degree of the same standard as getting the gastric bypass.  I agree it will help eliminate future health problems and more than likely emotional problems for those of us less fortunate or the metabolic scale.  Stomach, breast, back, thighs and arms could be allowed as reconstructive but only when one has gone under such a task as losing the extreme weight.   Chin, face etc I would say is cosmetic but the body carrying all that etc skin isn't healthy.  Maybe we can get a politician concerned the same way one got involved with gastric bypass.  We pay enough premiums and if that can reduce future problems they would have to pay for that would be a plus for them.

People feel that overweight is self inflicted because of stereotypes.  They think all obese people are just gluttons who eat a ton of food every day and never get off the couch.  They figure we did it to ourselves with our 'bad' behavior.  They don't want to look at it as the eating disorder that it is. 

 

Anorexia is the other side of the coin but, anorexics are pitied and offered all kinds of help while, if your eating disorder happens to be eating too much instead of not enough, you are ostracized and criticized for being a pig with no self control. 

 
September 6, 2006, 3:39 pm CDT

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Quote From: purplepenny

Ok, well, I used to be a cutter. I have scars on my arms and legs. Should the insurance companies be forced to fix that for me?

They cause me emotional pain, reminders of mental illness, I have to explain them to some people who notice them.

Fair is fair.

How about forcing them to fix a tatoo that someone I know got while drunk?

If your insurance company covers mental health treatment and your psychiatrist feels that your treatment would progress better with the removal of your scars, then yes, it should be covered. 

 

Going out and getting a tattoo while drunk is not a medical issue.  Let's not get ridiculous in our comparisons.

 
September 14, 2006, 10:16 am CDT

many weight problems start in childhood

Quote From: junecfl

People feel that overweight is self inflicted because of stereotypes.  They think all obese people are just gluttons who eat a ton of food every day and never get off the couch.  They figure we did it to ourselves with our 'bad' behavior.  They don't want to look at it as the eating disorder that it is. 

 

Anorexia is the other side of the coin but, anorexics are pitied and offered all kinds of help while, if your eating disorder happens to be eating too much instead of not enough, you are ostracized and criticized for being a pig with no self control. 

Many parents are overweight and pass this on to their kids.  Unhealthy eating habits that start in childhood are hard to break.  Some parents force their children to eat everything on their plates.  Some new moms use baby formula instead of breast feeding.  It is so easy to overfeed a baby on formula.  When junk food is made available to young kids, that's all they want to eat.  When kids have their own money, the first things they want to buy are candy and Mc Donalds.

 

Parents, when you are trying to lose weight, the family must also change their eating habits...smaller portions...healthy snacks with small portions.  AND limit the TV time.  Try going for an evening walk as a family...or playing games outside...or bicycling.  It seems so easy, but it is so easy to fall back into old habits.  Finding out the source of the problem is the most important.  Have a thourough checkup.  If you are excessively tired during the day, ask your doctor to refer you to a Sleep Specialist.  There are over 200 sleep disorders.  People with a sleep disorder tend to be overweight.  I have Narcolepsy and used to need to sleep all day, in spite of getting a full night's rest.  My husband has sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome, which were waking him up over 300 times a night...he never got past phase I sleep.

 

Thyroid disorders can also cause Obsesity.  Ask for a complete blood work-up. 

 

 Also, review your medications with your doctor.  There are many meds out there that cause weight gain.  I was on meds for Bipolar Disorder that caused me to gain 50 pounds in 9 months and then was changed to another med that also caused weight gain.  The meds made me hungry all the time and caused extreme sweet cravings.  When I changed meds, I was suddenly not so hungry and had more energy.

 

Since being treated for Narcolepsy with Provigil, I don't need to sleep all day anymore.  I also was changed to Bipolar meds which do not cause weight gain.  I have lost 50 pounds in the last year.  I still have 20 to go.  I need to exercise more...a hard habit to maintain.  My weight loss has slowed way down, but at least I'm not gaining.  Since losing all that weight, my cholesterol has come down to almost normal.

 

Also, take an honest look at your eating habits.  Read Dr. Phil's book.  There is a lot in there about finding the root cause of your obesity.  You are not a fat pig.  You are a person with a disorder that needs to be treated.  Many insurance companies will now cover seeing a doctor for obesity.  Be completely honest with yourself, so you can be completely honest with your doctor.

 

Good Luck

 
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