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January 5, 2006, 6:18 pm PST
You are right on the mark!
Quote From: xavierannI fully agree with you, Jesus and the Bible are real and I'm a full believer. I think you misunderstand me. I am saying that there are pleanty of deceiving people out there who desire to use the "idea" of a curse in order to manipulate and frighten people, and gain psychological controll over others, which may "feel" alot like real demon posession, but is really anxiety, depression, and so forth. I don't deny that there are real demonic forces out there, but I think it is largely over-sensationalized, and just wanted to share "how" psychics do things, and "how" some of the bad ones use the "idea" of a curse to manipulate and spiritually abuse. Not only psychics, but some Christians out there as well, like the young lady's father, who, no doubt was brain-washed into believing that everything he saw was "demon posessed" - he used exorcisms to gain mental controll over other people, including his children and messed them up. In this way he claimed "special spiritual knowledge" much like psychics claim to have, believing and teaching that he could "sense" presences that no one else could see or feel. In this way he took false authority over thers inorder to controll them, keep them in a false spiritual system, and spiritually abuse them and teach them to abuse others as well. How many pentacostals out there are shouting "demon possesed" from every corner? I'm never going to find out, as I won't go to a pentacostal church - ever. The catholic church got caught in this loop back in the 1500's and has since refrained from declaring anyone demon-possessed and "up for an exorcism" without extensive psychological evaluation. While they have finally got their smarts on, the rest of Chrstianity is finally catching up where they left off and we have fanatics running around declaring everyone out there "demon posessed". It's happened to me a million times at church, specifically when a fellow christian wanted to claim authority over me to get me to pay in more, work harder, give up a coveted position to them, or become "more obedient" - sorry, i'm not falling for this "i'm more spiritual than you are" gag. I've even been told by supposed christians that "I have the spiritual gift of discerning spirits...." - ya right, What discernment means is the ability to make a decision, and you do that by learning what the Bible teaches and then making a rational decision - that's discernment. And what spirits do you discern between? Between the Holy Spirit, whose teachings you should know if you read your bible (nothing miraculous there), and spirits that tempt you to do immoral things the Bible teaches against - you don't need any special spiritual equipment to use common sense or to read! Alot of Christian people need to get over their pride when pretending to display these artificial spiritual gifts in order to gain one-upmanship over others. Psychic readings? A SKILL you can LEARN like math or piano. So are the spiritual "words of knowledge" you hear about on TBN and in radical churches - the whisperings of the spirit and so fortth! YOur feelings, and what mode of spirituality you actually tap into? Your own God-given talent at your natural inner intuition, but science can not prove anything beyond that. You believe in God, but other faiths have the same experiences, both good and bad...It is your faith in God and helping others that is the genuine gift to other people in need. So I'm just saying "watch out for Spiritually Abusive frauds no matter what religious institution you step into, Pentacostal, Southern Baptist, Catholic, Buddhist, Jewish, New Age, or etc." I think many American people do not know the "facts" about how a psychic reading is done, and do not know the "facts" on spiritual abuse, or that it can happen to them in their own "neighborhood" (congregation). Wolves wearing sheeps clothing are among us in all groups, not just "the other group." I hope you receive this well and in the spirit of Christ's love, as I do not discount your experiences, I am just saying some people out there deliberately deceive and frighten in order to spiritually abuse and controll the innocent. That's all.
You are a very insightful spiritual person. As a practising Catholic for many years I do believe you are very accurate in your analagies. Keep up the good work
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Do you believe that walking under a ladder or someone giving you the "evil eye" can give you bad luck? Dr. Phil's guests say that curses and evil spirits are wreaking havoc in their lives. Sarah is convinced that she's hexed. For the last five years, she has been plagued with what she calls the "Tuesday Curse." Watch what happens when Dr. Phil's producers follow her around on her "unlucky" day. Then, George is convinced he is reaping the negative effects of a curse put on his family years ago in Mexico. He has even put his wedding plans on hold because he fears the curse will cause him to divorce! Plus, David worries that his wife, Holly, may be possessed because she has had the same nightmare for the past seven years, and she has been talking in a man’s voice, speaking in a foreign tongue and barking like a dog. What's behind her fearsome dreams? And, a woman claims an exorcism, performed by her father 26 years ago, put demons inside of her. Share your thoughts.
