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Do you believe that walking under a ladder or someone giving you the "evil eye" can give you bad luck? Dr. Phil's guests say that curses and evil spirits are wreaking havoc in their lives. Sarah is convinced that she's hexed. For the last five years, she has been plagued with what she calls the "Tuesday Curse." Watch what happens when Dr. Phil's producers follow her around on her "unlucky" day. Then, George is convinced he is reaping the negative effects of a curse put on his family years ago in Mexico. He has even put his wedding plans on hold because he fears the curse will cause him to divorce! Plus, David worries that his wife, Holly, may be possessed because she has had the same nightmare for the past seven years, and she has been talking in a man’s voice, speaking in a foreign tongue and barking like a dog. What's behind her fearsome dreams? And, a woman claims an exorcism, performed by her father 26 years ago, put demons inside of her.  Share your thoughts.

 

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January 5, 2006, 10:44 pm PST

Chrisitan tarot Reader?

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I want you in Paganism to know that I know some of you and you are by far some of the nicest folks a gal could ask for in a friend!  I want the "frightened" Christian community to know that I have bravely explored friendships with Pagans, and low and behold, they are (surprise, surprise) just people!!!!! People like me and you who have kids, messy homes, laundry day, burnt casseroles, and spiritual wishes that they hope someone "up there" hears.  I think that Christians whom I have gone to church with in the past are down right "silly" for being afraid of all this demon posession stuff and afraid of non-Christian people.  You arent afraid of Buddhists or Hindus, who are not Christians, so why be afraid of Euro-Pagans either.  One of the sweetest ladies I know in town told me she is a Wiccan - and she is so gentle spirited that I really thought she had the same heart a true and genuine Christian should display.  I have found out through my book reading that in Paganism every flower, tree, plant, herb and gemstone has a special meaning....the world actually  means something.  Then I checked out the Bible and found out that the natural world also has symbolic meaning in the Biblical sense.  While alot of Pagans believe in The Goddess, Christians might be surprised to realize that Christ has a Bride, the Church;  And The Church, as the Bride of Christ, functions as "The Goddess" for Christians in a round about way - the earthbound body that brings new life to others (through Christ, in the Christian sense, of course, in Christianity).  The more I think about it, the more I realize that we have alot in common.  People have to learn to look past clothing and jewelry pendants.  Alot of Christians are afraid of the Pentagram, the 5 point star, but I looked up the number 5 in a Bible reference, and have found some references to 5 being the number used to symbolize Grace in the Bible.  Think about the way number 5 is used in Biblical scripture - 5 wounds upon the crucificed Christ; 5 unprepared virgins, and 5 prepared virgins; 5 loaves and 5 fishes;  5 (x 10) days after the Resurrection Pentacost occurred and God sent the Holy Spirit to the Church of believers....I also have read that in early Christianity the Pentagram was actually used to symbolize Christ on the cross.  Christ said "Love your neighbor as yourself," and so, if you are my neighbor, my Pagan neighbor, I will love you as Christ asks me to, and treat you with the respect and dignity I wish to be treated with.  You may not know or understand, or even be interested in my faith, but I know that if My God loves you, than so should I, because I am no better than the God I worship.  I actually enjoy reading the Pagan information, because you are adding a new and interesting dimensions to European history.  For centuries no one cared to ask what religion pre-Christian Europe was, and now, people are interested and archeologists are digging up Stonehenge, and Druids, and Germanic Teutons....wow, the world is so exciting now.  Such wonderful stories of old, such adventure!  And the clothes, ya gotta love the midieval clothes!  I have some.  And you know what?  I feel the same wearing it as I do wearing my regular clothing - I'm me, no matter what I am wearing.  I will recognize you as a religion, and you know whose religion you are?  Mine - you are the religion of my own ancestors in a restored, modern sort of way.  There may be alot of information missing, but long ago, your religion was part of my family.  So you are sort of like my living ancestors, and I think you are fun!  I hope that you do not come to despise Christianity because of some nasty Christians, please remember Jesus Christ is the supreme example of Christianity - the one to look at, and guess what???? Christ himself was accused by the pharasees of being a Witch....and does anyone remember who visited Christ at Bethlehem?  My goodness, it was the THREE MAGI (in Greek the word "magi" means SORCERER) - These three Sorcerers (male witches) used astrology and dream interpretation to locate the Christ child.  So while the rest of the world just sat there, the Three PAGAN MAGI Sorcerers searched astrology for Christ, found him, and then worshiped him.  How is that for an accurate twist on the Biblical story?  Further, the two Biblical books that mention who visited Christ list Shepherds in one Book and the Magi in the other.  Looking both Shepherds and Magi up in the Greek reveals a starteling definition of both words:  both words ALSO means "pastor" or "priest".  Apparently Both Gospels are speaking of the same people who came to visit Christ - Pagan Sorcerers who were shepherds/priests/pastors to their people.  This is why they were sitting out under the stars watching their flocks at night when the angel came to them - they were watching the stars.  Recent Astronomical studies have found that the Magi stopped in Bethlehem the day a great Solar event took place in the sky - it was the DAY THE SUN STOOD STILL, also indicated in the scripture story.  That day is none other than WINTER SOLSTICE, for the word solstice, means, in latin, "sun" and "stood still".  This was the sign they needed to tell them where to stop to locate the Christ Child - their astrology was a gigantic clock to them.  Aparently these people were very learned, and wise (the translation of wicca in Old English).  I wish people would get out their Hebrew, Greek and Old English Dictionaries (which can be found on line) - what I have found is that Language is the biggest barries and once we look up the words there is no more confusion or division.  We are all seeking the same things.  Well, I may be the minority, but I choose to be nice to any pagan neighbors that I meet.  Merry Meet and Merry Part to you all!

Not sure that I understand that (Christian tarot Reader). 

As far as the magi and shepherd interpretation I have to say that it is very interesting, and I will study that out, thankyou for that. 

There is one issue that I may disagree with. I am all for 'Love thy neighbors.." but, and I may be mis-interpreting, it seems that you are saying pagans are ok, christians are ok, whoever is ok with their beliefs. This is what we call 'Eastern thinking' where no one is wrong and everyone is right. The opposite end of course is what we call "Western thinking' where there is either right or wrong. If there are two different religious beliefs only one can be right. The Bible quotes Jesus as saying "I am the way the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the father but by me." To classify this, Jesus obviously believes in Western Thinking. 

So there are 2 possibilities: 

1) Jesus is right. He is the way and there is no other way (that would make all other religions and spiritual beliefs, including pagans and wiccans, wrong. 

2) Jesus is wrong. He is not the way and there is some other way. 

You see if you say that everyone is right then that makes Jesus right. If he is right then everyone else is wrong so, inevitably, Eastern Thinking is impossible. 

You can think what you want of Jesus and the Bible but there are only three possibilities. 

1) Lord: He is God. Obey the Bible 

2) Liar: If this is true then he was obviously not God, and not a prophet or a good man and his teachings should be disregarded and not equalled to muhammed or whomever. 

3) Lunatic: A crazy man, not a prophet. 

Only 3 choices, you pick! 

 
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January 5, 2006, 10:47 pm PST

my 2 cents...

Quote From: wolfie

some times i really wonder if any one really did watch the show or not..... this shouldn't be a religuos topic of if you believe or not.... and giveing your heart to god thing... *sighs*  

believeing what one needs to believe in, as long as it is possitively.....  its all in the thinking. being good to your self, and good to others, good things will come. and so on. 

For what it is worth.  It goes hand in hand.  I want to do good because the love of the Lord Jesus is within me and His love makes me want to be good to myself, and good to others foremost, and then I feel good things will come with Christ who strengthens me.   Plain and simple, it's all about love.  And from my humble opinion the people who were on the show today do not love themselves.  For I believe that if someone has that love within them they would never feel as if they were "cursed."   

In Sharon's case though, I think a lot has to do with the love from her parents.  Because if someone could do that to their own child (even misguided as I believe they definitely were) there were more than likely other issues arising in that family. 

Amy 

  

 
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January 5, 2006, 10:48 pm PST

Hi Amy

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Hello! 

I just wanted to let you know about something I saw first thing this morning on one of the morning shows.  Dr. Laura Schlessinger has a new book out called "Bad Childhood, Good Life."  It just came out and I thought of it when I read your messages.  I haven't been able to get a hold of this book yet, but I have read a few of her other books and she is usually right on when she talks.  At least I think so, she's definitely like Dr. Phil and will tell you what she is thinking and doesn't hold back.  Although *side note* on today's show I think he held back a lot more than I have seen before, about "spiritual" things.  I think I may post more about that later... 

But I just wanted to say that we all have bad childhoods in one sense.  Something happens that makes us who we are and it is up to us to decide what kind of future we will have.  I think that goes along with the topic discussed today.  It is up to us to decide what we will do with our lives, how we choose to look at the world, and how to spend our precious moments that we have left to live.  For me, all of those questions go hand in hand with my faith, as I am a Christian (I will never hide that), but what has helped me is to know that there is a lot more to life than myself.  I definitely found that out when I had my son, but sometimes I think we get into the mentality of thinking about ourselves all the time and thinking about what happened in the past and not letting go of our past hurts.  Myself when I was young, it was mostly attacks on myself and not from someone like your mother, but I can speak about forgiveness as I had to forgive myself.  Forgiving can do a lot for a person.  I think maybe you probably have a lot of soul searching to do before you can get to this point, but it helped me tremendously.  And forgiveness is not about just forgeting about it and starting new with a person as I have no belief that you should even be around your mother now.  It is a personal thing and not about what the other person can do or what you could do to make things right.   

Another part of that change in me is my acceptance of Christ into my life, I think it would be hard to tell you what helped me without saying that Him dying for my sins allowed me to see that I had to let go of my past and live in the present, since He has forgiven me.  Now I don't know what faith you are or anything about you, I am just letting you know what helped me.   And just so you know that I am appalled by how those church members shunded you like that.  I know from my past that not every church is the same, as I am now a different denomination from what I grew up in and a leader of my previous church betrayed my trust (although not in such a horrible way as you) but I would suggest trying to go back.  You may have to try a few different places until you feel comfortable.  But I believe a church home can offer a lot in the way of internal healing.  It is nice to be around people that love you and will be there when you need them.  Believe me it is possible.   

I don't know if Dr. Laura's book would help or not, but what's to lose.  You may have a lot to gain, you never know! :) 

Hope all goes well in your journey! 

Amy :) 

  

 I'm really surprised to all of the feed back I am receiving and so quickly.  This thread is so ambushed with so many people's thoughts and emotions, I never imagined my post would be noted and touch some people enough to reply.  Thank you.

I am a born again Christian.  I'm sure more than just yourself is wondering about that.  I have a very sincere relationship with the Lord and am not ashamed of it.  I do know how to pray and am extremely aware of spiritual warfare and the false seduction of it.

I grew up in an overly religious home that borderlined cultish activities.  The church that we were attending as a family when I was young and was raped, was a church that was full of manipulations of scripture and a church that had leaders who wanted to press on any accountability.  Very disturbing. 

I have been to many churches since, but never on a regular basis since.  Your senses on me were right about it being a challenge for me to be vulnerable to another body of christ.  I spend most of my faith by keeping it fairly personal.  My own studies, songs of praise and worship, and private prayer.  I have not forsaken my Father throughout my let downs.  I am fully aware that people come with flaws (sin) and in no way was it God's wish for any of those things to take place in his church.

Churches were hard to stick with my whole life.  My mother (errr.... mother spirit of Jezebel) has had her hand in every church and our family moved from one to the next.  My mom always got in cahoots with the pastor and his family, then the elders, then got herself onto the board or on some prestigeous level in her head, then she would tear them down from the inside.  The churches would suffer by what my mother would stir up and what curruption she would reveal to the congragation and move onto the next church.  Interesting way to find Jesus, but I did.  I just don't know how to trust other people in my beliefs.  I feel very secure when it is just God and I.

I will keep a heads up for Dr. Laura's book.  She's a funny cookie, I like!  Thank you for your input.

As for moving onward into the future, I think this is where some of the readers are misunderstanding out of normal ignorance.  Narcissim is very hard to escape.  Think of it like a person who is a conartist, lier, stalker that follows your life, will even bring in the court system to get what they want (like grandparent rights to my children), etc, etc.   It is an ongoing battle to move forward.  Forward usually means, just another day battling the influences of Jezebel.  It is way too hard to explain in a single post.

check out the sight I gave to bible guy.... forget his handle, lol.
Char
 
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January 5, 2006, 10:53 pm PST

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If you would like to talk about this subject further feel free to email me at:

liatsunami@hotmail.com 

please put "narcissism" in the subject line.  I'll see if I can find some articles/web forums/support groups for you on this topic that might be helpful for you in dealing with this.

I am not a psychologist so I can't really give you professional grade advice, but I can try and share my experiences and knowledge, and try to help get you in touch with people that can help you.


 Thank you, I emailed!
 
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January 5, 2006, 10:55 pm PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Not sure that I understand that (Christian tarot Reader). 

As far as the magi and shepherd interpretation I have to say that it is very interesting, and I will study that out, thankyou for that. 

There is one issue that I may disagree with. I am all for 'Love thy neighbors.." but, and I may be mis-interpreting, it seems that you are saying pagans are ok, christians are ok, whoever is ok with their beliefs. This is what we call 'Eastern thinking' where no one is wrong and everyone is right. The opposite end of course is what we call "Western thinking' where there is either right or wrong. If there are two different religious beliefs only one can be right. The Bible quotes Jesus as saying "I am the way the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the father but by me." To classify this, Jesus obviously believes in Western Thinking. 

So there are 2 possibilities: 

1) Jesus is right. He is the way and there is no other way (that would make all other religions and spiritual beliefs, including pagans and wiccans, wrong. 

2) Jesus is wrong. He is not the way and there is some other way. 

You see if you say that everyone is right then that makes Jesus right. If he is right then everyone else is wrong so, inevitably, Eastern Thinking is impossible. 

You can think what you want of Jesus and the Bible but there are only three possibilities. 

1) Lord: He is God. Obey the Bible 

2) Liar: If this is true then he was obviously not God, and not a prophet or a good man and his teachings should be disregarded and not equalled to muhammed or whomever. 

3) Lunatic: A crazy man, not a prophet. 

Only 3 choices, you pick! 

From the original message "and does anyone remember who visited Christ at Bethlehem?  My goodness, it was the THREE MAGI (in Greek the word "magi" means SORCERER) - These three Sorcerers (male witches) used astrology and dream interpretation to locate the Christ child.  So while the rest of the world just sat there, the Three PAGAN MAGI Sorcerers searched astrology for Christ, found him, and then worshiped him.  How is that for an accurate twist on the Biblical story? " 

  

Here is what I have to say about the Magi.  They worshipped the Christ child.  Doesn't that say anything????  It says a lot to me.  It tells me that the Lord can change anyone. :)  

 
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January 5, 2006, 11:00 pm PST

twist and shout

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From the original message "and does anyone remember who visited Christ at Bethlehem?  My goodness, it was the THREE MAGI (in Greek the word "magi" means SORCERER) - These three Sorcerers (male witches) used astrology and dream interpretation to locate the Christ child.  So while the rest of the world just sat there, the Three PAGAN MAGI Sorcerers searched astrology for Christ, found him, and then worshiped him.  How is that for an accurate twist on the Biblical story? " 

  

Here is what I have to say about the Magi.  They worshipped the Christ child.  Doesn't that say anything????  It says a lot to me.  It tells me that the Lord can change anyone. :)  

 I like the twist on that one... :)
 
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January 5, 2006, 11:16 pm PST

Jezebel

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 I'm really surprised to all of the feed back I am receiving and so quickly.  This thread is so ambushed with so many people's thoughts and emotions, I never imagined my post would be noted and touch some people enough to reply.  Thank you.

I am a born again Christian.  I'm sure more than just yourself is wondering about that.  I have a very sincere relationship with the Lord and am not ashamed of it.  I do know how to pray and am extremely aware of spiritual warfare and the false seduction of it.

I grew up in an overly religious home that borderlined cultish activities.  The church that we were attending as a family when I was young and was raped, was a church that was full of manipulations of scripture and a church that had leaders who wanted to press on any accountability.  Very disturbing. 

I have been to many churches since, but never on a regular basis since.  Your senses on me were right about it being a challenge for me to be vulnerable to another body of christ.  I spend most of my faith by keeping it fairly personal.  My own studies, songs of praise and worship, and private prayer.  I have not forsaken my Father throughout my let downs.  I am fully aware that people come with flaws (sin) and in no way was it God's wish for any of those things to take place in his church.

Churches were hard to stick with my whole life.  My mother (errr.... mother spirit of Jezebel) has had her hand in every church and our family moved from one to the next.  My mom always got in cahoots with the pastor and his family, then the elders, then got herself onto the board or on some prestigeous level in her head, then she would tear them down from the inside.  The churches would suffer by what my mother would stir up and what curruption she would reveal to the congragation and move onto the next church.  Interesting way to find Jesus, but I did.  I just don't know how to trust other people in my beliefs.  I feel very secure when it is just God and I.

I will keep a heads up for Dr. Laura's book.  She's a funny cookie, I like!  Thank you for your input.

As for moving onward into the future, I think this is where some of the readers are misunderstanding out of normal ignorance.  Narcissim is very hard to escape.  Think of it like a person who is a conartist, lier, stalker that follows your life, will even bring in the court system to get what they want (like grandparent rights to my children), etc, etc.   It is an ongoing battle to move forward.  Forward usually means, just another day battling the influences of Jezebel.  It is way too hard to explain in a single post.

check out the sight I gave to bible guy.... forget his handle, lol.
Char

I am sorry I wasn't able to get the website you gave him up on my internet.  I haven't been able to get pdf files very well lately.  But from what it sounds like it is pretty horrible to escape it, and I am sure it is definitely harder since it is your own mother.   It is horrible that she took you to court for grandparents rights, I sure hope she didn't win!  Ack! 

I think I have had a past Jezebel that came and went in my life.  I only escaped my so called controlling friend because she got sent away, to a mental institution none the less.  She was the granddaughter to my next door neighbor and I had know her all my life up to that point.  I remember my father even called her a pathological liar to her face once and she proceeded to tell him off and how many ways she wasn't, I guess now that from tsunami's post (forgot handle as well) that they couldn't say what they actually are and that is part of the narcissism.   

It just kind of clicked when you said think of it like a conartist, liar, stalker.  That was definitely what she was, and I don't know if she's still that way because I haven't seen her since I was 14.  Thank God that she was taken out of my life, because I know I wouldn't be the person I am today if she stayed and was able to have her controlling presence in my life.   Is there any other links you could send me, as I can't get that one working...you have intrigued me now.  If you could just send it to amyjayne50126@hotmail.com. 

Thank you, and I do believe this will have to be goodnight as well. 

Amy :) 

 
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January 5, 2006, 11:31 pm PST

Dear Sharon - Just 4 U

Dear Sharon, 

  

I record Dr Phil's show everyday and watch it every evening. I have just heard your story and feel a great deal of compassion for you. Dr Phil has just said to you: "Do you want to know what I think?" and when you said "yes" he added "when we come back". This is when I decided to pause the recording and jump on my computer to write to you.  

  

If I allow myself to hear what Dr Phil has to say, I will probably end up feeling that he has said all that needed to be said, and my little grain of salt will not seem necessary. But I believe that message boards can bring a guest like you some additional support - and I want to show you my unconditional support - the support of one more human being who cares about you - before Dr Phil has said it all for me. 

  

What your father did to you was absolutely horrible. 

Hearing that you have decided to exclude him from your life just shows how much you are still very mentally healthy - and how strong your own individual spirit still is - what I am talking about is simply your own God given soul - that little voice inside of you who knows right from wrong and true from false from beginning to end - no matter what happens. 

  

You are a survivor - and even though you were powerless as a child - your own individual spirit and soul were never destroyed - damaged and hurt certainly  - but you can reclaim the power of your very own beautiful soul - and tell your inner broken child that you are the adult in charge now - she can feel safe and secure and start to heal - because you have the power of an adult now - and will hold her hand and make sure that this will never ever happen again. 

  

You are not cursed - never have been and never will be. You have been traumatized.  

The "curse", if any, can simply be called a neurosis, that is, a curable mental illness generated by a traumatic event, often from childhood. That is the only curse you ever were the victim of. So from now on, whenever you want to use the word curse, replace it by "psychologically traumatized".  And if you also replace the words "my demons" by the words "my fears" it will open up the doors for your own liberation. "Cursed" and "demons" - may have been words used regularly by your father - but get them out of your own dictionary. You need to define your own feelings with your own terms. Do not use the words that have entrapped you to define who you are anymore. 

  

This traumatic event that happened to you is what Dr Phil calls a "pivotal moment", that is, a moment or event that has such a profound impact on your psyche/mind/subconscious, that it will twist your life around completely for many years to come or even a lifetime - if healing does not take place.  And as Dr Phil so wisely says: you cannot change what you do not ackowledge. Psychological healing in any way, shape or form, starts from understanding what has happened to you. 

  

A pivotal moment can have a positive impact or a destructive impact on one sense of Self.  

Pivotal moments tend to influence positively or negatively how we define ourselves. Ever since that traumatic event happened to you, you have defined yourself as cursed or bad. You have to redefine yourself in your own terms. You were a wonderful little girl. Always have been, always will be. 

  

I had one positive pivotal moment in third grade. When all the kids were coming out of class the  teacher stopped me and said she wanted to talk to me alone. I was sure she was going to complain about something I did not do right because this is what I was used to from adults. To my great surprise she said that she thought I was very smart and did not understand why I was not in first place when results came in every month. Up to that moment I had never heard any adult tell me that I was smart or felt that anyone cared whether I was smart or not. Needless to say, I was in first place the next month. Someone cared about me! 

  

My negative pivotal moment came when at nine years old - same age as you - my parents decided to send me to boarding school in a different city than the one they lived in - even though I cried and cried and asked them not to. While in boarding school I was psychologically miserable - became seriously ill physically - and wondered 24 hours a day  for many months - Why?  

I eventually came to the conclusion that I was disturbing my parents. So I spent the rest of my life trying not to disturb anyone I cared for and became a carpet in all of my relationships. 

  

So from these 2 events, my sense of Self was defined:  

I am intelligent but very disturbing. So I told myself: "Keep your mouth shut! Be nice and do not make any waves!"  The truth is I was born with an original and intelligent spirit but whenever it came time to express it I have been struck by fear: Will I be rejected, punished, and (unconciously believed) sent to boarding school again? 

  

You and I come from a time where children were made to be seen but not heard. Most parents then believed that children needed to be "tamed". And especially when a child had a positively wild and original spirit of its own.  

  

I personally, could not adjust to the rigid educational system in those days.  

I always ended up at the directors office in school and never understood why.  

I was more curious, nervous, talented, undisciplined and untamed than the other kids.  

I developed an inferiority complex. Why could I not be like everyone else?  

It took me many years to understand that being different was not a curse but OK.  

  

You were probably that kind of kid (in your own way).  

So for lack of better knowledge, your father decided that you were possessed.  

The truth is you were simply possessed by a wonderfully wild and untamed, individual and beautiful spirit of your own.   

  

If my parents had the same religious beliefs your parents had, they certainly would have chosen the same means to try to "tame" me.  

Your father was - no doubt - a religious fanatic.  

  

This was also a time when a lot of people believed that evil is a force outside of us that can suddenly take hold of someone and possess that person from the inside.  What they forgot is that we all have a soul - that little voice inside of us that knows right from wrong - and going in one direction or another is always a personal choice - not an event that happens from the outside.  

  

I do not believe that there is a 9 year old kid in the world who can make this choice - or any choice of that kind - we are all dependants of adults at that age - and I am sure that you do not believe it either.  

  

I believe that all children tend toward the good. But when the critical and negative voice of their parents or other adults starts to live and grow inside of them, they can turn bad and this is probably what evil really is and what being possessed truly means. I also believe that all children initially have a beautiful untamed and undamaged soul that needs to be nurtured and protected by their parents and other adults. And if you and I have had our souls unprotected and starved by those who were responsible for us, it is now our duty to heal and be good so that we can nurture and protect others and make this world a better place. 

  

What happened to you is very sad and when I see you crying it makes me very sad.  

When you were 9 years old, the 2 most important people in your life were your Mom and Dad.  

You had given them all of your love and all of your trust and they betrayed you in a major way.  

Your Mom betrayed you by not preventing this from happening.  

Women in those days were generally passive and submissive to their husband.  

So she did not protect you and therefore you suddenly realized that you were absolutely alone in this world - and nobody cared, even those you thought up until now cared about you.  

Your father also betrayed you by trying to tame you, control you, disrespect you by having all these strangers put their hands on you, and ultimately by not recognizing and acknowledging and instead rejecting - or trying to reject - all that you were:  

An absolutely beautiful spirit that could not be broken or tamed! 

  

Very important before I forget. When this event happened you answered the words they wanted to hear when you were asked the specific questions they ask when performing this kind of event.  

Do not have any doubt for even one second that you said exactly what you thought was expected of you. As a kid, you had been the witness of these performances at your house over and over again. So you just said what you knew you were supposed to say. And you know why? Because as a kid, you were only trying to be loved and accepted by them. 

  

Now is the time to pick up the broken pieces to cry once and for all.  

It is important to understand the impact that this initial betrayal has had on your sense of Self as well as your relationships with others.  

Do you find it impossible to trust and be relaxed - to let go of being guarded around anyone you could love, befriend and simply be happy and joyful with?  

Now this is the most important question. Because you cannot change what has happened. 

You can only change the impact it is going to have on the rest of your life. 

  

There is a spiritual belief that we are always exactly where we are supposed to be - for our own soul to grow.  And that the crosses we carry can be transformed into tremendous healing power we can share and help others with.   

  

Thanks for being in the world. Thanks for being who you are.  

And thanks for the courage and determination you show in your own journey for healing. 

You are a great source of inspiration for us all! 

  

 
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January 5, 2006, 11:33 pm PST

I Believe There is Hope!!!

I have been involved in the Deliverance Ministry (The Casting Out of Evil Spirits) for over 25 years around the world.  Dr. Phil's Show on "AM I Cursed?" was brought to my attention by my wife today, who taped it and we were both able to re-watch it on video.  It would appear that there are so many people troubled by supernatural experiences that they don't really understand.  I can say that Dr. Phil handled the each case as gently and diplomatically as possible; and I do appreciate that. 

  

I am not in the Psychiatric Field and leave that to the those who practice Medicine.  I am a Christian and a Deliverance Minister and have been involved in helping to set people free from demonic, oppression, obsession and possession.   The question that many people seem to want to know is, "What can I do to help myself and others to get free from this torment?".   Is it bad luck, curses, vexes, hexes, spells, jinxs, pychic bewitchment...  What is it? 

  

The truth is, if there is a Devil and demons, then there is a God, and there is.  And Jesus Christ, God's only begotten Son has provided the answers that can and will help you.   The non-secular world has it's own modalities.  But, Jesus Christ is the answer.   Jesus said, in the book of Mark, Chapter 16 verse 17, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils....." 

  

The question that everyone needs to answer is, "Do you believe what Jesus said or not?"   If you do... then you can find help by doing what he said to do.  There are thousands of pages of resources out there that are available to you, to help you get free from demonic challenges.  You can start by going to: www.mountain-of-fire.com, www.demonbuster.com, www.hbcdelivers.org, and www.wccd.com to name a few.  No Hype just Help! 

  

Of the many people that I have prayed for over the years, I still remember the experience of an eleven year old boy, whose mother asked me to pray for her son at a Deliverance Meeting in Omaha, Nebraska; many years ago.  I was just one of the workers.  No big name, no big church, just a beginner in the Deliverance Ministry.  By the way, we still pray for people for Free.  As I began to pray for this young man, I prayed like I had heard so many other Ministers pray.  "Father, in the name of Jesus, if thou canst help this thy child, please help him Lord...".  A 16 year old Christian teenager, who had a tee-shirt on with the Logo: "JESUS SAVES", came over to us, shook his head like I didn't know what I was doing and asked if he could pray for this young eleven year old.  The boy's Mother said, yes.  I watched as the teenager, reached out his hand to touch the young boy on the head gently, at the same time saying, "Father... in Jesus Christ Mighty Name, I bind the strong man!!!!".   

  

At that moment a supernatural force picked that eleven year old boy up in the air and the next thing I knew, he was thrown and landed 12 - 15 feet away.   I was in near shock, because no one ever taught us about Deliverance like that, in my Church, or any other church for that matter.   A female worker quickly acted by cupping the young ladd's head and keeping the demon from bashing it into the floor. Other men came along side to hold on to the thrashing arms and legs.  The next thing that I knew was that I was on the floor holding onto the boys leg.  That leg was swelling and thrashing up and down.  I prayed with all my might because it felt like that leg had enough power in it to throw me across the room. 

  

The workers were praying, "Come out of him you unclean spirit!" the little boy said, "Mommy tell them to stop... it burns, it burns!!!"   I wondered what was hurting him?   We were just praying, repeating Bible verses.  This dialogue went back and forth between the boy and the workers.  I joined them and commanded that evil spirit to "Come out of this boy, in Jesus Christ  Mighty Name!!!"  The boys voice grew deeper and deeper and sounded like a full grown man, just like on the movie the Exocist.  The demon in him said, "NOooooooooooo!!!" several times, as we countered with, "Come out of this boy, in Jesus Christ  Mighty Name!!!"and a force threw and convulsed as the sound of the last "NOooooooooo!" came out of his mouth, up through the air circling the auditorium where we were, then; up and out of the windows, near the roof.   

  

The little boy passed out.  The female worker said, "Rise in the name of Jesus Christ!" and that young man opened his eyes, looked at his Mom, and said with tears in his eyes... "I'm FREE!!! I'm FREE!!!, Mommy, I'm FREE!  Jesus set me FREE!!! 

  

Everyone can be FREE from what bothers them, if they would just give Jesus a chance to help them too.  My Pastor used to say, "Slaves who love their Chains will Never be Free!". 

  

If you want to be free, I would advise you to go to the websites listed above. And if you are asked, please tell them Allen sent you.  If you have any questions, or if I can help,  you may email me at: allenmosley@minister.com and I will try and answer you as soon as I can. 

  

May the Holy Angels of God help you to find the answers you are looking for from Jesus Christ, his Father and the precious Holy Spirit of God.  AMEN!!! 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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January 5, 2006, 11:37 pm PST

Lawlis book

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I am trying to find the book by Dr. Lawlis that Dr. Phil mentioned at the end of his program today.  Can someone tell me the name of it?  Please email me directly.  Thanks! luckystar1952@suscom.net
www.Amazon.com  G. Frank Lawlis, Transpersonal Medication, Hardback July 1996, ISBN 0877739889. Paperback May, 2001 ISBN 157062626X 
 
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