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Created on : Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 12:06:14 pm

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Do you believe that walking under a ladder or someone giving you the "evil eye" can give you bad luck? Dr. Phil's guests say that curses and evil spirits are wreaking havoc in their lives. Sarah is convinced that she's hexed. For the last five years, she has been plagued with what she calls the "Tuesday Curse." Watch what happens when Dr. Phil's producers follow her around on her "unlucky" day. Then, George is convinced he is reaping the negative effects of a curse put on his family years ago in Mexico. He has even put his wedding plans on hold because he fears the curse will cause him to divorce! Plus, David worries that his wife, Holly, may be possessed because she has had the same nightmare for the past seven years, and she has been talking in a man’s voice, speaking in a foreign tongue and barking like a dog. What's behind her fearsome dreams? And, a woman claims an exorcism, performed by her father 26 years ago, put demons inside of her. Share your thoughts.

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charlie75

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January 8, 2006, 10:40 pm PST

Am I feeling sorry for myself?

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Charlie, I am the one whose the mother is paranoid schizophrenic. I used to be hurt and embarrassed by mother, but living 400 miles away helps me find other things about which to think. When your children are older they will understand how cruel she is and not want to be around her. I know that is how my nieces and nephews are with my mother. My sister and I were that way with her mother (a mean one she was, she didn't speak English so we don't know what she would say to other people). Just make sure they have good experience with your mother and tell you if anything bad is said or happens (evidence).

As for the daycare, you can report any abuse to social services. Social Services have to look into any abuse report. Just hope that she doesn't report you for abuse first.

You talk about your dad. Mine died in 1989. God took him because God knew my dad had taken enough crap. Dad was really a good, friendly person. There are 4 kids in my family and when I was a kid, my parents never slept in the same bed. Dad slept in the living room. I was in shock when I learned from where babies came. She acts as if we were are immaculately conceived. My dad never divorced (I asked him why he never divorced her--she was always mean to him and fought with him.) because he would lose everything for which he worked. Dad spent most of his free time playing cards with his buddies; he called it his second income. He never knew that she beat my sister and I senselessly--we never told him. She was pregnant with my sister when they married. Now that he is dead, she has been spending his money wrecklessly and always says mean things about him.

Do whatever you can to have a life separate from hers. If that means getting a new phone number, do it. I have a cell phone and have to pay for incoming calls--that is my excuse not to get phone calls from her. I have told her that I have to pay for incoming calls, so she doesn't call me. When I call her, she starts to whine about how sick she is, so I cut it short, by telling her I don't have much time to talk.

I am sure that most people don't think your mother is an honest person. Liars usually get caught lying and I'll bet most people feel sorry for you--although that is not good either. Those people just don't want to get involved. I am worried about you because I think you are feeling sorry for yourself. You have to get away from her negativity. You are not the only person with a wacky mother, even though you think you are.

You can email me at l_m_dobrin@hotmail.com or think about coming for a visit to the big city. Looking forward to traveling or doing something always cheers me.

I look forward to hearing from a cheery charlie. Let me know.

I never really posed the question until I got to the end of your post to me. Hmmm...

At first I thought that I would just ask anyone on the boards how they felt about the uncanny similairities between the Jezebel Spirit and Narcissm, but so much more has developed from that. Through simply trying to clarify some things, it seems that I have come off as sulking or just wanting to vent my story. I didn't think that I was, but now I'm wondering how honest I'm being with myself.

I don't want to be that person that I've portrayed because really I am doing pretty good. Posts are difficult to convey mood and I suppose I have left out clarifying mine. I admit that I am in a transitional phase where I am taking my first giant step away from my Mother and her web, but talking about it on forums, perhaps isn't the way to go about expressing the little emotional extra's. Besides, that isn't what this thread is about anyhow. My initial question was never answered and now we are all just conversating about bad upbringings. Woops, wrong thread, lol!

I don't want to be feeling sorry for myself and have had to sit down and really think that one over. It is that little bit of child like hope for reconcilliation (that will never happen) and yearning to hear I'm sorry and I love you (which will never happen) that I find myself having a tough time letting go of. That is the mourning part that I was referring to before. Am I feeling sorry for myself? Truthfully, I am still asking myself if that is what I am really doing here on the boards. I will have to sleep on it. You are right by the way, I must be pretty arrogant to pressume, even subconsciencely, that I am the only child on this earth with a narcissistic parent. Just never met one before until now. It's not just a bad upbringing and an abusive relationship... it is a horrific experiance.... and I'm not the only one to have had it.

Thanks for your complete honesty. I like that in a person. You really don't need to worry about me. I have a wonderful husband and his family is very supportive and loving. No crazy people on his side. I guess it would have helped to have thrown that in there with the rest of my posts. I really am okay and living my life. I am just learning now to deal with my past. It's like, once you take the first step out of the narcissist's web, it is truely the first time that you can begin to deal with the pains there were and work thru them. I don't want to burry them and find out later they are still there.

Anyhow, I'm babbling now..... I'm a happy girl with friends and family (inlaws) that I love! Thanks for the heart!

God Bless,
Charlie

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If anything, one great thing was accomplished here on these boards for me over the last few days... It has been affirmed for me that there really are other people out there who know what being raised by a Jezebel Spirit/Narcissistic Parent is like. They surely do exist and they have gotten through it- like yourself. I know I can do it too, yet it was nice to read others have as well.

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January 8, 2006, 10:53 pm PST

Angels

When I saw the movie The Sixth Sense, I kept thinking why didn't someone tell that kid to call an angel? People apparently don't think to call on angels to protect them, especially Archangel Michael. My girlfriend calls him AAM and he and his sword protect her. Angels love doing that sort of thing, especially if you call them before you go to sleep at night to protect you while you are sleeping. Whether you view this as a real deal or a psychological device, it works for me.
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January 9, 2006, 8:23 am PST

Curses? or Coincidence?

Have you ever noticed that when you get a new car...say a yellow Volkswagen, all of a sudden you are seeing yellow Volkswagens everywhere...that's because "yellow Volkswagen" is very near the surface in our conscience...our thoughts...our thoughts create our reality...if you think you are cursed on Tuesdays...you will be cursed on Tuesdays.

If you get a chance to watch the movie/documentary "What The Bleep Do We Know?", it is pretty fascinating piece, about the power of our thoughts.

My mother was brought up in a church going Catholic family...she was taught that once a child hit the age of 7 their personality was cast in stone and if they were bad then they would be bad always. She called me "She Devil" and my sister, "Devil's Spawn"...both my (estranged) sister and I had major issues with fear of the devil throughout our lives.

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January 9, 2006, 12:11 pm PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Demons and evil forces do exist! I have to testify that I have had several first hand encounters with them in the past. I would have many strange phenomenon occur in my house. Lights would turn on by themselves, the oven alarm would go off by itself, one time the light bulb in a light fixture popped out by itself and flung to the floor. I used to dabble in the occult when I was a teenager, but after I became a Christian I threw all that stuff out the door.

The worse night I can remember occurred just a few years ago when I was home alone at night. In the middle of the night I woke up in ABSOLUTE TERROR. I felt that there was an evil presence in the house and at the same time I felt like my life was in danger. The best analogy would be the feeling of absolute terror coupled with the fear that I'm in danger and am about to be murdered. As one previous poster had said, a feeling of "overwhelming sense of doom". About a minute or so after I had waken up feeling this evil presence and terror, I had heard the knob on the bathroom tub fall down, the toilet seat fell down, and the door to the bathroom banged a few times. Since I couldn't pray out loud I had prayed in my mind that God would put a hedge around my home and cast the evil spirit out. Sure enough after a while of continuous prayer I felt a sense of peace. However, right before I was about to fall asleep again, the phone rang. (I never get crank calls in the middle of the night) I had picked up the phone but no one was on the other line. (I feel that this was an indication that the spirit was out of the house, yet trying to harass me through some one else's phone) After this incident occurred and I prayed very hard for God's hand of protection I have never been bothered again.

There were signs that lead up to the attack like an increase in paranormal activity my family and I had witnessed within the house. But unfortunately we ignored those signs. A couple of times I used to wake up in terror feeling an evil presense and I used to dismiss them as being bad dreams... However, after this one single event happened which was coupled with physical disturbances within the house, I feel that everything in the past that occurred were really warning signs.

Nowdays I have never had a single incident occur. I never wake up out of sleep in terror and there are no more physical disturbances that occur within the house.

For those who are experiencing similiar problems or believe that you are cursed, the solution is a matter of the spirit. You need to dedicate yourself fully under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. You also need to fully REPENT of whatever you are doing that may be causing your disturbances. If you are involved in the occultic realm you need to get rid of all types of occultic objects in your house (ie, ouija boards, tarot cards, runes... etc). Do not consult with psychics, tarot card readers or anyone that has anything to do with the occult realm.

You need to continue seeking after the Lord and continue to pray for deliverance. At the same time it would be wise to find a well balanced Bible believing church and contact the pastor and elders to let them know of your situation. Have them pray over you. Unfortunately there is no alternative solution. Reading the Bible and displaying crosses in your home aren't going to work unless you have a willing spirit that desires to truly walk with Jesus Christ. The goal of these demons is to keep you under their control and bondage and nothing is going to work unless the attitude of your heart and spirit changes.

Unfortunately demons do exist whether or not you believe in them.

ok, sweet hart, and every one else on this thread, i hate to break this too every one. the good old lord oh mighty can not fix every thing. and praying your life away, every moment of your life, thinking that will fix every thing, it won't. some things must be handled for ourselves. for we all are here to learn a certain amont of things in our lives. is partly why we are all here. now. dr. phil does not want to go into religious matters of belief of who the heck is right. nor does he want to heck any ones belief. some things ARE beyond religion !!!!!!!!

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January 9, 2006, 2:15 pm PST

Hi wolfie

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ok, sweet hart, and every one else on this thread, i hate to break this too every one. the good old lord oh mighty can not fix every thing. and praying your life away, every moment of your life, thinking that will fix every thing, it won't. some things must be handled for ourselves. for we all are here to learn a certain amont of things in our lives. is partly why we are all here. now. dr. phil does not want to go into religious matters of belief of who the heck is right. nor does he want to heck any ones belief. some things ARE beyond religion !!!!!!!!

Hello, I just wanted to say hi. I see that you have been following this board also. I too agree that it has gotten a little out of control. I'm not wanting a debate, I was just wanting to say hi and to let you know that I have been reading your posts along with the others. It seems like there is not a board on Dr. Phil that doesn't bring religion into it somehow. So I'm sure that people will not stop talking about it. I know it can get repetative. Anyway, like I said, just wanted to say hi to you and everyone else on here. Did you say that you study curses? I'm not sure if I read that correctly.

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January 9, 2006, 2:15 pm PST

I Don't believe those guests are

Having been raised Ukrainian Catholic, I use to believe in Hell, a vengeful God (Who punishes us for our sins), The devil, "Evil forces" and/or curses, and demonic posession etc.

However , around the time of my older brothers death, I started reading books written by a certian world renown psychic, spiritualist, and medium. Anytime she is on Larry King live, or a certian talk show on FOX I never miss her.

She does not for one minute believe in any of the above mentioned (and I no longer do either)...however she does talk of "Dark Entitites" and psychic attacks, the afterlife, our immortal soul, and reincarnation. I have come to believe in DE's (Dark Entites) . They are the sociopaths among us. Hitler would have been a good example. Psychic attacks are simply those times when we are filled with self doubt, and what seems like an audio tape full of negative statements about ourselves seems to be playing in our head over and over again.

I guess old habits die hard though... for example:I still won't walk under a ladder, and do experiance good luck when I pick up a penny or any other change found on the ground.

The woman on the show, Sarah, I personally do not believe was possessed. Her bizarre dreams may be explained by reincarnation: she may have been the target of wiccan extremeists in a former life, or some strange group that worships dark forces//the devil/ demons. It's been said that dreams can give an indication of what your former life was like.

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January 9, 2006, 2:38 pm PST

For George

Sometimes what may seem to be unkind circumstances are not what they seem to be. Many times, someone (usually from a higher place) is trying to get our attention. Perhaps George fits into this category. I think so. I think so because what may be considered to be unusual circumstances are happening to him. The circumstances have "got his attention". His wife provides a down to earth balance. Generally, the circumstances are happening to things around him. So the question may arise: Is this good or bad? Long ago, someone went to see a medicine person. That someone reported that strange things were happening in the house. Water taps turned on. Light bulbs would unscrew, seemingly, by itself. The medicine person went to the home to investigate. As it turns out, long ago, there was a battle between the Mohawk and the Ojibwa. A Mohawk warrior had fallen. Due to the circumstances that happened at the time, this warrior could not be given a burial. The spirit of the warrior made so-called supernatural circumstances happen to the individual, because the warrior knew that the individual would help. The medicine person gave the warrior all the rights due for a proper burial. The individual decided to look more into the beliefs of that small part of his/her ancestry. Good things happened. Sometimes, we do not always correctly interpret what is happening to us.

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January 10, 2006, 6:46 am PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Hello, I just wanted to say hi. I see that you have been following this board also. I too agree that it has gotten a little out of control. I'm not wanting a debate, I was just wanting to say hi and to let you know that I have been reading your posts along with the others. It seems like there is not a board on Dr. Phil that doesn't bring religion into it somehow. So I'm sure that people will not stop talking about it. I know it can get repetative. Anyway, like I said, just wanted to say hi to you and everyone else on here. Did you say that you study curses? I'm not sure if I read that correctly.

well, yes i do study curses along with other things. which people here will not like ^_^

and it is sad, that most people don't seem to understand, god is not first and only, and praise him when things go good,(which is fine and dandy) and blame him when things go bad.( which confuses me, cause he really didn't do any thing in the first place) and glad you came in for the hello, and that my words here are not going in the wind here.

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January 10, 2006, 11:56 am PST

My curse is now gone

Hello. Two years ago, I spent nine days in jail over some silly mental health matter. However, my jail cell was in a very peaceful area of the detention centre. With God's help, I came to the conclusion that I will have a fruitful life once I leave my biological family. As it turned out, God and I were both right. Once I got out of jail, I finally got rid of my biological family for good. I have overwhelming evidence that my biological family is cursed. Two years later, things are finally going well for me. I have a part time job and study law at Canada's St. Lawrence College. I very much believe in the spiritual world and am thankful that it has tipped the scales in my favour. May 2006 be the best year that I've ever had and that any evil spirits stay far away from me. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank my former minister, Reverend Wendy MacLean-rennie, who performed a ritual on me that eventually drained the evil spirits out of my skeletal system once and for all. I have felt a very good vibe just by typing this message onto Dr. Phil's message board. Thank you and may God bless you all.

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January 10, 2006, 12:09 pm PST

sindey77

I believe there is evil in actions and people, just as there is good in actions and people. I was reared in a Ukrainian Catholic elementary school and church as well, but just as everything changes so has the Catholic Church. I chose to follow my faith as a Roman Catholic after high school as I do now. Things have changed. God is not considered to be a vengeful God but a God of love. I don't want to beat this religion thing with a stick, as others have been doing, but I do want to defend my Church, my faith and my love of Christ.

We will find the afterlife a lot different than the hundreds of different ways some religions have said it will be, but I hope one thing for sure, I hope it not as this life is. I personally think we and I live in hell now.

As for your mention of the woman or man to whom you choose you listen, Sylvia Browne in her writings has described her spirit guide's description of life after death and choices given to you in the afterlife. You can return to earth as another person (reincarnation, I suppose) and live life again or chose to be a spirit guide as her spirit guide has chosen. This, to me, is absolutely plausible.

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