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Do you believe that walking under a ladder or someone giving you the "evil eye" can give you bad luck? Dr. Phil's guests say that curses and evil spirits are wreaking havoc in their lives. Sarah is convinced that she's hexed. For the last five years, she has been plagued with what she calls the "Tuesday Curse." Watch what happens when Dr. Phil's producers follow her around on her "unlucky" day. Then, George is convinced he is reaping the negative effects of a curse put on his family years ago in Mexico. He has even put his wedding plans on hold because he fears the curse will cause him to divorce! Plus, David worries that his wife, Holly, may be possessed because she has had the same nightmare for the past seven years, and she has been talking in a man’s voice, speaking in a foreign tongue and barking like a dog. What's behind her fearsome dreams? And, a woman claims an exorcism, performed by her father 26 years ago, put demons inside of her.  Share your thoughts.

 

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January 11, 2006, 5:54 pm PST

HI!!!

well   anyone  that   don't have jesus in their lives,  should be scared, because nothing comes good from   the devil ..    the  devil  will  fool you and lie too you..    to get you on his side..   you  don't want too be on the devils side for  you will only  suffer  for it...    when  you die and you don't  know jesus then you will go to hell and   by then  it will be too late for you..   then  you will see the true  evil of the devil  and you will suffer and be in pain  forever...    then  you will wish  you  were on jesus side and  served him   but it will  be no turning back then...........  the devil  wants too make things  that are not right look good too you. thats how he gets you. then  when you end up in hell  what you throught  looked good  ,   was   ugly and  evil and pain and suffering''   if it too good too be true then it is..  its bad
 
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January 12, 2006, 8:35 am PST

Hi to you too

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well   anyone  that   don't have jesus in their lives,  should be scared, because nothing comes good from   the devil ..    the  devil  will  fool you and lie too you..    to get you on his side..   you  don't want too be on the devils side for  you will only  suffer  for it...    when  you die and you don't  know jesus then you will go to hell and   by then  it will be too late for you..   then  you will see the true  evil of the devil  and you will suffer and be in pain  forever...    then  you will wish  you  were on jesus side and  served him   but it will  be no turning back then...........  the devil  wants too make things  that are not right look good too you. thats how he gets you. then  when you end up in hell  what you throught  looked good  ,   was   ugly and  evil and pain and suffering''   if it too good too be true then it is..  its bad
Countrycow, I am sure that you are a very sweet lady and you worry about people too much.  I have read some of your posts and it seems that you are scared of anyone or anything that you really don't know anything about.  Now, I am not trying to make you made either, but it sounds that you are scared of things and people that are different from you.  All of your posts talks about the devil and people going to hell, and I don't think that helps anyone for you to be so negative.  You seem to know a lot about him.  You seem to be a god fearing (and devil fearing) woman, and I'm sure that you live your life the way you think you are supposed to.  Try to understand that not all people think the same as you.  Now, please, I'm sure the devil has no one and you can relaxe, how about lightening up your posts a little.  Frankly, they all sound scary.  Untrue, but scary.  So please, have a more opend mind about some things and stop worrying so much.
 
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January 12, 2006, 11:31 am PST

Hell is real

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Countrycow, I am sure that you are a very sweet lady and you worry about people too much.  I have read some of your posts and it seems that you are scared of anyone or anything that you really don't know anything about.  Now, I am not trying to make you made either, but it sounds that you are scared of things and people that are different from you.  All of your posts talks about the devil and people going to hell, and I don't think that helps anyone for you to be so negative.  You seem to know a lot about him.  You seem to be a god fearing (and devil fearing) woman, and I'm sure that you live your life the way you think you are supposed to.  Try to understand that not all people think the same as you.  Now, please, I'm sure the devil has no one and you can relaxe, how about lightening up your posts a little.  Frankly, they all sound scary.  Untrue, but scary.  So please, have a more opend mind about some things and stop worrying so much.

Countrycow has a very good point. Unless you repent and turn from your sins you will  

perish in hell and then you will see true evil.   I apologize for turning this into a  

religious discussion, however, I just thought I had to make a comment here.
I have studied the scriptures for a very long time now and one thing I can assure you  

all is that the Bible is true and it is the word of God.  For those that don't agree I  

can come to a solid conclusion about you.   

  

1. You are not truly seeking after God.
2. You have not read the Bible *and/or* understood it.   

  

I have studied the scriptures very carefully and am 100% convinced that the writings  

are divine in origin.  This is the very basis for my faith in God and why I believe God  

exists, otherwise I would be an athiest today.  I know the scriptures like the back of  

my hand and when you say the scriptures are not true you do not know what you say. 

  

Yes there is payment to be made for sin and yes hell/eternal damnation is a reality  

unless you come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  I know that hell and damnation  

sound so negative and may seem like a mythical legend but it's an unfortunate reality. 
It is a place of utter torment and everlasting destruction where the devil and his  

demons will also dwell for eternity.  It is a cursed place of no mercy, no hope, no  

salvation and no rest day or night.  Those that perish there will be utterly forsaken  

forever.  And I'm willing to make a bet that those who perish in hell would have wished  

they had listened to all those "religious nuts" when they were walking on the earth.  

  

Countrycow and like many other "religious people" warn you about this place so that you  

won't have to go there.  God uses us to knock on the door of your hearts and to draw  

you to Him.  God loves us and cares for us and this is why He sent Jesus to die for us.
He provides the gospel as a means to escape true justice, the wrath of a Holy Righteous  

God.   You have time while you are still alive to repent and turn away from your sins  

and come to Jesus Christ.  For every single sin from that small white lie to the mass  

murder of thousands, there is payment that is due and it will be paid to the very last  

penny when God balances the books of justice on Judgment Day.   

  

 We know and understand that this place of hell exists and it is the ultimate  

neverending curse. You may think all this is a false myth but I guarantee you that you  

will understand some day.  

 
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January 12, 2006, 12:07 pm PST

jesus is the way

i love  jesus christ  and  he is real..   i  study  the bible .    the  bible  is all  true....   i   pray  for  the lost  every day..   i  know  people  think  what  they  like.  but if they don't  have jesus in their hearts,  they are truly lost..    i  don't  worry  for others i am concern  for others.   i   hope  the lost will get saved  before its too late for them..
 
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January 12, 2006, 12:08 pm PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Countrycow has a very good point. Unless you repent and turn from your sins you will  

perish in hell and then you will see true evil.   I apologize for turning this into a  

religious discussion, however, I just thought I had to make a comment here.
I have studied the scriptures for a very long time now and one thing I can assure you  

all is that the Bible is true and it is the word of God.  For those that don't agree I  

can come to a solid conclusion about you.   

  

1. You are not truly seeking after God.
2. You have not read the Bible *and/or* understood it.   

  

I have studied the scriptures very carefully and am 100% convinced that the writings  

are divine in origin.  This is the very basis for my faith in God and why I believe God  

exists, otherwise I would be an athiest today.  I know the scriptures like the back of  

my hand and when you say the scriptures are not true you do not know what you say. 

  

Yes there is payment to be made for sin and yes hell/eternal damnation is a reality  

unless you come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  I know that hell and damnation  

sound so negative and may seem like a mythical legend but it's an unfortunate reality. 
It is a place of utter torment and everlasting destruction where the devil and his  

demons will also dwell for eternity.  It is a cursed place of no mercy, no hope, no  

salvation and no rest day or night.  Those that perish there will be utterly forsaken  

forever.  And I'm willing to make a bet that those who perish in hell would have wished  

they had listened to all those "religious nuts" when they were walking on the earth.  

  

Countrycow and like many other "religious people" warn you about this place so that you  

won't have to go there.  God uses us to knock on the door of your hearts and to draw  

you to Him.  God loves us and cares for us and this is why He sent Jesus to die for us.
He provides the gospel as a means to escape true justice, the wrath of a Holy Righteous  

God.   You have time while you are still alive to repent and turn away from your sins  

and come to Jesus Christ.  For every single sin from that small white lie to the mass  

murder of thousands, there is payment that is due and it will be paid to the very last  

penny when God balances the books of justice on Judgment Day.   

  

 We know and understand that this place of hell exists and it is the ultimate  

neverending curse. You may think all this is a false myth but I guarantee you that you  

will understand some day.  

Hello, how are you?  Let me just explain that I was not saying that countrycow was wrong, I was saying that there are many different ways to live your life, and not all of them are bad.  About hell, I just thought she was a little overboard when it came to her writings.  I'm sure that the Bible is the word of your God and that people who follow it have the right to as well as people who don't.  Believe me, I have had people warn me about hell and I just didn't understand why they were so adament about it.  Who knows where we go in the end, for no one is sure.  All we can do is live our lives the best we can and treat people with respect and not harm each other and in the end we will get rewarded, not punished.  No, I am not Christian, but I am religious.  I may not be seeking your God, but I am seeking my God and Goddess.  Paganism is an earth base religion in which we respect Mother Nature and everything in it.  I would not call myself an atheist for I do believe in something.  Others may not agree and that is fine, that is their opinion.  Again, we all have different beliefs and reasons why we believe in what we believe.
 
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January 12, 2006, 1:51 pm PST

Wow! ... some people ...

   I was a little disappointed with Dr. Phil's attitude about this discussion .... I think he contradicted himself too ... I mean, he would have the crucifix with the light, surround himself with  holy symbols , yet, he doesn't think evil can find ways to interfere ... why then hang the cross?  Maybe, I am not making any sense here ... (been very busy ... tired) ... He was making fun of psychics.  There are many true psychics ... Serial killer John Wayne Gasey was caught by a psychic ... plus countless other cases too many to mention ... I believe that evil energy can find its way into a person's life ... I believe I could find proof in the bible ... because everyone interprets the holy Scripture there own way ... like two friends going to see a show ... one loves it ... the other wants to leave .... I seen a bumper sticker the other day .. It went ..... "Lord, please keep me safe from YOUR followers" .... Are those people who replied preaching about Jesus and Hell ... If you don't turn to Jesus your going to hell ... Really, how about the Buddha, Hindu, Native American, etc. ?  GOD is just happy you didn't turn to evil ... cause evil is easy ... faith is hard ... no matter the name it has... If I felt cursed (sometimes I do because I made a mistake and cursed myself) But, if I felt another force I would sage the house and sprinkle salt the perimeter of my entire property thinking only of Jesus (my personal choice) .... asking for protection of the light .. visualization is important ... I like to think of it like this ... there is a war going on ... always with mankind but, I am talking spiritually .... the good against evil and we are all warriors ... the side we pick is our choice ...  GOD gave us all the weapons we need, we just have to use them and not think because the "Christians" say that would be witchcraft ... using sage and salt ....  

 
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January 12, 2006, 4:55 pm PST

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Hello ellfie, Of course everyone has their own beliefs, religions, and I'm not here to  

disrespect your beliefs or anyone elses.  If you want to believe in whatever religion,  

go ahead.  

  

I'm just testifying that it is *impossible* for the Bible to be false or mythical.  I  

have carefully studied and analyzed the scriptures over and over again and can come to  

no other conclusion. The Bible is an extremely fascinating and deep book. 

  

@elffie If people have warned you about hell you should take them very seriously before  

lightly brushing them off.   You said you were not sure where people go when they die.   

Let's say that CountryCow and I are right.  Wouldn't it be better to investigate  

whether or not its the truth now than before it's too late?  After all if we are  

right... then hell is a very serious penalty.    

  

@windydaze People may interpret the scriptures wrong but that is because they do not know how to study it.  In order to come to correct interpretation you need to compare  

scripture with scripture.  Many people have taken versus out of their appropriate  

context and formed entirely new doctrines which are absolutely foreign to the entire  

teaching of Biblical truth.  The Bible is like a puzzle and when you begin to piece all  

the parts together you begin to see the big picture.  Most of the scriptures are very  

direct and straight forward so it is very hard to misinterpret something. 
Doctrines that are debatable within Christian circles are areas that are not critical  

to our understanding of God.  Something like Eschatology (the study of the end times)  

is highly debatable and the scriptures can sometimes be fuzzy with regard to these  

subjects.  But when it comes to heaven/hell, Christ/devil and salvation these are not  

debatable since the Bible clearly teaches about them and their existence.
 
I'm telling you guys that there is zero chance the scriptures originated from a human  

mind and therefore zero chance it is some fake legend.  I am 100% positive it was   

penned down by non other than God Himself.     

 
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January 12, 2006, 6:48 pm PST

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Quote From: ssword

Hello ellfie, Of course everyone has their own beliefs, religions, and I'm not here to  

disrespect your beliefs or anyone elses.  If you want to believe in whatever religion,  

go ahead.  

  

I'm just testifying that it is *impossible* for the Bible to be false or mythical.  I  

have carefully studied and analyzed the scriptures over and over again and can come to  

no other conclusion. The Bible is an extremely fascinating and deep book. 

  

@elffie If people have warned you about hell you should take them very seriously before  

lightly brushing them off.   You said you were not sure where people go when they die.   

Let's say that CountryCow and I are right.  Wouldn't it be better to investigate  

whether or not its the truth now than before it's too late?  After all if we are  

right... then hell is a very serious penalty.    

  

@windydaze People may interpret the scriptures wrong but that is because they do not know how to study it.  In order to come to correct interpretation you need to compare  

scripture with scripture.  Many people have taken versus out of their appropriate  

context and formed entirely new doctrines which are absolutely foreign to the entire  

teaching of Biblical truth.  The Bible is like a puzzle and when you begin to piece all  

the parts together you begin to see the big picture.  Most of the scriptures are very  

direct and straight forward so it is very hard to misinterpret something. 
Doctrines that are debatable within Christian circles are areas that are not critical  

to our understanding of God.  Something like Eschatology (the study of the end times)  

is highly debatable and the scriptures can sometimes be fuzzy with regard to these  

subjects.  But when it comes to heaven/hell, Christ/devil and salvation these are not  

debatable since the Bible clearly teaches about them and their existence.
 
I'm telling you guys that there is zero chance the scriptures originated from a human  

mind and therefore zero chance it is some fake legend.  I am 100% positive it was   

penned down by non other than God Himself.     

I didn't say that I was not sure where people go when they die, I said who really knows where they go when they die.  I believe that when someone dies they go to a holding place, otherwise known as the summerland and wait until their soul is ready to enter the world again.  This is otherwise known as reincarnation.  Now, I know that you probably do not feel the same and that is fine.  I don't think I did anything that would lead me to hell.  And I don't think that the Bible is a legend as I also think that Jesus did live and is worth worship.  The devil and hell are not part of my culture.  I too am not here to disrespect your chosen path, but to let you know that not all people who do not have Jesus in their lives are bad or evil.  Now, I know that you didn't say anything like that, I just thought I would throw that in.  Have you studied other religions?  I'm curious because they seem to have the same motto, don't do harm to others and you will get what you will in the end.  The only difference is that my chosen path does not have someone telling me that I will spend eternity in hell for the things that I do that are not right in the eyes of one.  "Harm none, do what ye will."  I do want to thank you for listening and if you do have any questions about my path, please feel free to ask.   

 
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January 12, 2006, 9:53 pm PST

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Quote From: windydaze

   I was a little disappointed with Dr. Phil's attitude about this discussion .... I think he contradicted himself too ... I mean, he would have the crucifix with the light, surround himself with  holy symbols , yet, he doesn't think evil can find ways to interfere ... why then hang the cross?  Maybe, I am not making any sense here ... (been very busy ... tired) ... He was making fun of psychics.  There are many true psychics ... Serial killer John Wayne Gasey was caught by a psychic ... plus countless other cases too many to mention ... I believe that evil energy can find its way into a person's life ... I believe I could find proof in the bible ... because everyone interprets the holy Scripture there own way ... like two friends going to see a show ... one loves it ... the other wants to leave .... I seen a bumper sticker the other day .. It went ..... "Lord, please keep me safe from YOUR followers" .... Are those people who replied preaching about Jesus and Hell ... If you don't turn to Jesus your going to hell ... Really, how about the Buddha, Hindu, Native American, etc. ?  GOD is just happy you didn't turn to evil ... cause evil is easy ... faith is hard ... no matter the name it has... If I felt cursed (sometimes I do because I made a mistake and cursed myself) But, if I felt another force I would sage the house and sprinkle salt the perimeter of my entire property thinking only of Jesus (my personal choice) .... asking for protection of the light .. visualization is important ... I like to think of it like this ... there is a war going on ... always with mankind but, I am talking spiritually .... the good against evil and we are all warriors ... the side we pick is our choice ...  GOD gave us all the weapons we need, we just have to use them and not think because the "Christians" say that would be witchcraft ... using sage and salt ....  

well, i am not sure if Dr. Phill was makeing fun of psychics or not. and what you say is true... it is hard to keep a faith, any faith and is easy to do evil, of any kind.  I believe every one has the right to there beliefs. just  there are others though out this thread that would want you to believe diff. I just love people like that. The my way or hell thought. *sighs*  I know i am not going to this hell. ^_^ thank you for the input you have put in, it's nice to see open minds.
 
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January 13, 2006, 7:13 am PST

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Quote From: wolfie

well, i am not sure if Dr. Phill was makeing fun of psychics or not. and what you say is true... it is hard to keep a faith, any faith and is easy to do evil, of any kind.  I believe every one has the right to there beliefs. just  there are others though out this thread that would want you to believe diff. I just love people like that. The my way or hell thought. *sighs*  I know i am not going to this hell. _ thank you for the input you have put in, it's nice to see open minds.
I don't really think that Dr. Phil is contridicting himself either. I do believe that psycics have powers but I do not believe that they are of GOD. So any "CHRISTIAN" who puts faith in them, is contridicting what the bible says. It says "give no attention to mediums or familliar spirits, I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD." The devil ain't stupid. He knows what goes on in this world and can lead any one to a serial killer, or whatever you ask of him, because he wants your attention on him and off of JESUS. I know all to well how it feels to want answers and feel like turning anywhere for them. My brother in law was killed in may of 04, and we have no justice or answers, but I know that that will come by way of the one true judge. Everything that glitters isn't gold, and just because someone has powers that are, to say the least, interesting, doesn't mean that we should go running to them for answers, that is how people get possessed in the first place, it is called an open door. This is all my beliefe, and I am not criticizing anyone else!
 
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