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Topic : 01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Do you believe that walking under a ladder or someone giving you the "evil eye" can give you bad luck? Dr. Phil's guests say that curses and evil spirits are wreaking havoc in their lives. Sarah is convinced that she's hexed. For the last five years, she has been plagued with what she calls the "Tuesday Curse." Watch what happens when Dr. Phil's producers follow her around on her "unlucky" day. Then, George is convinced he is reaping the negative effects of a curse put on his family years ago in Mexico. He has even put his wedding plans on hold because he fears the curse will cause him to divorce! Plus, David worries that his wife, Holly, may be possessed because she has had the same nightmare for the past seven years, and she has been talking in a man’s voice, speaking in a foreign tongue and barking like a dog. What's behind her fearsome dreams? And, a woman claims an exorcism, performed by her father 26 years ago, put demons inside of her.  Share your thoughts.

 

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January 18, 2006, 2:05 pm PST

Strange...

   countrycow, by examining your posts, it seems as if you can automatically "detect"  whether people "have Jesus in them" or whether or not they're "saved". Do you really think you can know whether or not God is in person A's heart while peoples X, Y, and Z don't have Him? Sorry. You can't. Whether they read the Bible or not, whether they've formally accepted Christ or not, you don't know what God thinks. You don't seem to be at all familiar with the concept of GRACE at all. What?? You say, A God who loves people enough to keep them even if they don't happen to make it to a baptism or don't have access to a Bible?? My head spins! Unless you can somehow directly "plug in" to God's Mind, you can't say He lacks grace for XYZ or whatever. You do seem to think He is quite lacking. 

   Unless I am mistaken, according to your doctrine, your God throws perfectly good people out with the trash just because they happen to live in China or something and don't get Bibles, or have no information about Christ. Too bad for that poor kid with muscular distrophy also--he goes to hell because he ain't coherent enough to learn. That Buddhist saint who feeds starving children and heals diseases for hundreds of people also gets the barbecue treatment. Perfectly good, God--loving people--go to hell because your God isn't graceous enough. I feel for you. Your God is a terror. He hates enough to throw that poor Muslem kid down just because he followed what daddy taught him. Whay if a person, who heard of this disturbing doctrine, got scared and ran away from it? Zip! Game over for him... 

   I feel for you because of the lives of existential hard-terror and negativity  you must live. Instead of loving God more than anything in the universe (like I do...), you sink in terror. Instead of a God of infinite compassion and grace, you have a God of infinite punishment waiting to strike your next brother human who happened not to take a pledge to Christ. Even to crush His own faces(those of you who do this for the least of these, you do unto Me). If countrycow happened to do evil to me or to not believe in me, implode1 would not seek vengeance. I would forgive and work for peace. Yet somehow God, who is infinitely greater than me, would deal out an unimaginable punishment to someone who did evil or thought He didn't exist. Strange... 

   I would very much like you to prove me wrong and tell us that God doesn't behave in this way. Otherwise, please spare us the negative postings--we do not need to hear it now, not in the context of the show, not in this country when morale is low to start with.  

 
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January 18, 2006, 2:07 pm PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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when  you  say  i don't worship your god..   its so sad  because you are truly lost..    their  is only one true liveing god..    there is no others gods.  they are  false gods made up by man....    i think  you been  watching too many movies..   anyway  i do respect you and your feelings.  i   know   you    are a good person..  but  without jesus  you  are lost.   being  good   to others and  haveing a great family  will not get you too heaven alone  you need jesus in your life too.. jesus is the only way too heaven..    i am  only telling you the true facts..  read the bible..
Countrycow, I love conversing with you, I really do.  Again, I am not lost, I know exactly where I am and what I am doing.  I can't beleive you actually think I get my beliefs from movies.  That is just a bunch of Hollywood crap that does not portray real people or real thinking of any sort.  Infact, I don't even watch movies about my religion because they always get it wrong because they are ignorant.  Do you really believe everything you see on T.V. or in movies?  I sure hope not.  There are no false Gods.  If there were, perhaps yours would probably be considered one in the eyes of others from different cultures.
 
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January 18, 2006, 2:16 pm PST

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look  i did not say  people that don't have jesus in their lives  are  bad or evil...   i am saying  that   without jesus  in your life,  you will not enter heaven...   jesus  is the only way to heaven..    theirs heaven  and hell.   worship jesus christ and live for him, you will  go to heaven..    without jesus in your life you will only end up in hell.    you can live a good life and be a good person.  but that will not get you too heaven  alone.  you have too  have jesus in your heart and live for him too.   i  am only telling you the true facts.  i am not putting you down or makeing it up.  i  am  a true honest christian  person that  worships and  lives for jesus.   i witness to others  about jesus and share jesus with them.  for jesus  want his people too  witness to the lost and  hopefully  some will get saved before its too late.   without  jesus  you have nothing  but with jesus you have everything..   lifes too short to wast  your time on  false gods.   i will pray for you..  may god help you  realize the truth  before its too late for you..
I know you believe that there is a heaven and a hell and that is alright.  I for one beleive in reincarnation, but that is another topic.  All I was trying to say was, let people have their own thoughts.  Everyone does not think alike and that is what makes living so unique, that there are billions of people who believe what they want.  All we can do is tell them why we beleive what we do, if they ask of course, and let them know how we got there.  For me, I beleive in the Goddess because how can you have man without woman?  The Gods plant the seeds, the Goddesses nurture and let them grow.  I have kept you in my thoughts and I probably will for some time to come.  You have been a little overboard on some of your postings, but overall I do think that you care a great deal for people and just want the best for them.  As so do I. 
 
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January 18, 2006, 2:38 pm PST

curse or good omen?

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I have looked on the internet for this sign and can't find one. The closest one was an anchor with a snake. Ours loos lik it has a heart in the middle. Does it.? It's hard to see it up close enough. It is not a button. I doubt it. I will look further to see what I can find.
   If anything, this looks like a CROSS. Maybe an equal-pointed one. Don't jump to any conclusions. LOL.
 
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January 18, 2006, 8:34 pm PST

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countrycow there's your answer.  And it's true, everyone does not want to be saved.  But when their last day comes they will. 

I know when I turn to dust I have lived my life the best I could.  Funny thing is, I don't need a respectable piece of literature to tell me how I should live my life.   

Thank you. 

 
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January 18, 2006, 8:44 pm PST

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look  i did not say  people that don't have jesus in their lives  are  bad or evil...   i am saying  that   without jesus  in your life,  you will not enter heaven...   jesus  is the only way to heaven..    theirs heaven  and hell.   worship jesus christ and live for him, you will  go to heaven..    without jesus in your life you will only end up in hell.    you can live a good life and be a good person.  but that will not get you too heaven  alone.  you have too  have jesus in your heart and live for him too.   i  am only telling you the true facts.  i am not putting you down or makeing it up.  i  am  a true honest christian  person that  worships and  lives for jesus.   i witness to others  about jesus and share jesus with them.  for jesus  want his people too  witness to the lost and  hopefully  some will get saved before its too late.   without  jesus  you have nothing  but with jesus you have everything..   lifes too short to wast  your time on  false gods.   i will pray for you..  may god help you  realize the truth  before its too late for you..
What if you don't believe in heaven or hell?  What then?  I guess to you the earth is flat and we never went to the moon?  Or maybe, dinosaur bones were planted by Satan?  Please, woman, you are upsetting me with your Gospel!  I think you need to work on yourself a little before it is too late.  What will happen at your last moments when you realize that your life of witnessing was a waste?  I just speak the truth and want to save you from wasting your life!  Peace be with you sister. 
 
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January 18, 2006, 9:36 pm PST

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I watched the show today about the curses/hexes, etc.  I believe I may be 'cursed', but not do to emotional problems.  Back in July, I awoke with strange mark on my chest.  I showed my friends and family members, nobody has ever seen anything like it.  I showed it to a doctor (not mine) and he thinks it was from a button, but that is not the case.  See for yourself.  If anyone has any ideas where I can get an answer, please advise.  I wish I could blame it on emotional problems or think positive, but I don't think Dr. Phil would know either.  Thank you 

  

 

That actually looks familiar but I don't know from where.  It peaked my interest and the closest thing I found was the Christian symbol for Faith Hope and Charity.   

 

 
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January 18, 2006, 11:51 pm PST

wrong thinking

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look  i did not say  people that don't have jesus in their lives  are  bad or evil...   i am saying  that   without jesus  in your life,  you will not enter heaven...   jesus  is the only way to heaven..    theirs heaven  and hell.   worship jesus christ and live for him, you will  go to heaven..    without jesus in your life you will only end up in hell.    you can live a good life and be a good person.  but that will not get you too heaven  alone.  you have too  have jesus in your heart and live for him too.   i  am only telling you the true facts.  i am not putting you down or makeing it up.  i  am  a true honest christian  person that  worships and  lives for jesus.   i witness to others  about jesus and share jesus with them.  for jesus  want his people too  witness to the lost and  hopefully  some will get saved before its too late.   without  jesus  you have nothing  but with jesus you have everything..   lifes too short to wast  your time on  false gods.   i will pray for you..  may god help you  realize the truth  before its too late for you..
I think your ideas about God are a little off.  I think if you want to love God keep it in your own house or at church.  People have to find God by themselves  you telling them that they will go to Hell if they don't is  crazy.  You said before that there are no other Gods.  I disagree,  if people really believe in who they worship then that is how they'll spend their after life.  In their kind of bliss.  I think it's rude for people that are Christian to have such a closed mind about anything else then they don't follow there own religion.  There are more Christians that are killing, hurting, and deceiving people then any other religion.  I just want you to grow up and let us make our own decisions.  Have a good day.
 
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January 19, 2006, 11:35 am PST

Love Is The Answer!

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My first demonic experience happend at the age of 9 after the death of my brother, when I was young everyone told me they were just bad dreams...now at the age of 41 they say I'm just nuts and UNDER medicated. 

My personal experiences would blow your mind, but sharing what happened to me is not why I'm writing, I'm writing because through the years I have learned a great deal about this subject and trust me it's not uncommon. 

 I am in know way going to start preaching but the Bible is filled with examples of not only possession but being tormented by demons...even Christ himself was tomented while hanging on the cross and I can assure you Christ was not possessed he was tormented, he was also tempted in the wilderness. This should be proof enough that you don't have to be an evil person to be possessed or tormented...was Christ evil? 

  

What worked for me: 

God does tell us how to cast out demons in HIS name.  

I know you have tried this but remember one important thing when you cast them out do you believe that they have to leave or  do you doubt the living God? 

Remember that the scriptures do say that demons cannot harm us, they are able to get to certian people though their weakness, for example fear, illness, drugs, and evil...etc. we can be weak in so many ways. 

Pray for God to take your weakness away, and again don't doubt that he will, pray for faith...you don't get it unless you ask. 

Last word of advice... 

Do what I do at night and you "Will Not" have demon attacks, be tormented, demonic dreams. 

When I go to bed I put a tape on of the Bible on cassette, demons are terrified of the word of God, when these words are going into your mind the demons will flee from you...just like God says! 

If you have demonic problems during the day while you are wide awake, like myself...pray, read scriptures, listen on tape. 

  

Do not feel guilty that the demons choose you, if you think for 1 second that they haven't got to the rest of the world...take another look at the world. 

  

God be with you. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

   While I'm rather agnostic when it comes to these things, I can tell you that projecting love and compassion towards the lost soul who may be causing this will most likely help. I feel deeply for you, and would take your troubles as my own if I could. That's just the nature of love, and it counters all darkness. I had encountered a ghost situation once, and peace was made when this technique was used; the phenomenon stopped. 

   Listen carefully. This spirit is almost certainly that of your deceased brother. Pray for him. Send love to him--try to, even if you are scared or feel angry over this. He is most likely very confused as to what is going on with him. How did he die? Was he angry when he died, or was there any grudge match happening at the time? What kind of person was he when he lived? When people die, particularly if it's sudden or untimely for the individual, their spirits sometimes become very confused or derranged. He may simply be maddened over having died young. It is more likely he still thinks he's alive or is frustrated at not being able to communicate directly to you. If unexplainable phenomena are happening, it might be the soul desperately trying to communicate or break through. Conversely, the nightmares may simply involve the soul's anguished awareness filtering into your own mind. Or it may be an ordinary textbook case of night-terrors; a relatively common sleep disturbance that differs from night-mares. For a spirit who is earthbound, linear time does not really apply--you sort of exist everywhere at once, or experience everything as an eternal moment in a continuum. Very little subjective time may have passed for your brother. To him, he may have died only hours ago! 

   Call to God and His love and then just try talking to your brother, even if you think the ghost may not be him. While invoking the love and protection of God, focus images of love and healing light towards him. Tell him God loves him. Try and show forgiveness to him. Ask him what he feels or talk to him about his life with compassion. Above and beyond in importance to anything else, try and tell him to GO TO GOD, to go to the light. If you do this, you just might experience a profound moment of healing. You might even find something even greater come from this, like seeing the spirit being rescued from darkness and confusion and being taken into God's healing presence. If debtfixer would like to contact me privately on this matter, my contact is forceit_229@yahoo.com 

                     My deepest feelings--may infinite compassion be to you. 

    

 
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January 19, 2006, 12:09 pm PST

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I think your ideas about God are a little off.  I think if you want to love God keep it in your own house or at church.  People have to find God by themselves  you telling them that they will go to Hell if they don't is  crazy.  You said before that there are no other Gods.  I disagree,  if people really believe in who they worship then that is how they'll spend their after life.  In their kind of bliss.  I think it's rude for people that are Christian to have such a closed mind about anything else then they don't follow there own religion.  There are more Christians that are killing, hurting, and deceiving people then any other religion.  I just want you to grow up and let us make our own decisions.  Have a good day.
well   the devil has alot of people confused....    its really sad!!!!!!!!!   read the bible..    the  ten  commandments,,  they  are  true today  as they were then..  god  never changes!!!!!!!!     thou shalt  have no other gods  before me!    thou  shalt  not make unto  thee  any graven   image  or any  likeness  of  any  thing that  is in  heaven  above.or  that is in  the earth  beneath, or  thaT  IS IN THE  water  under  earth.     thou  shalt  not bow down  thyself  to  them  nor  serve them. for  i  the lord thy god   am  a  jealous  god. visiting the iniquity  of  the fathers  upon  the  children  unto  the  third and  fourth  generation of them  that hate me!!!!!    and   shewing    mercy  unto  thousands of them  that  love  me  and  keep  my commandments!!   this is  all  in the bible.  its all  true and very real....    i am  grown  up, thank you   and  maybe  its you that needs to grow up a little bit and  realize  the truth.  yes  people  can  think and  believe what they want...  but if its not  jesus,  then  they are lost.  if they never get saved and don't listen  too  the  true facts,  then there is no hope for  them  and  thats  really sad
 
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