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(Original Air Date: 01/10/06) Whether from personal guilt or family pressure, many couples rush to the altar – and regret it later. Heather and Jeff were virgins when they started dating. After their relationship started heating up and the two became intimate, Heather feared judgment from her minister father and ran down the aisle. Now their house is filled with resentment. Why is she disappointed with Jeff, and is there hope for their future? Next, Michelle said she had doubts about marrying Steve during her walk down the aisle. Now, nine years later, what is behind the overwhelming conflict in their marriage? Plus, meet two best friends who are plotting to make sure their kids get married. What do the teens think? Whether you're planning a black-tie affair or eloping to Sin City, don't miss what Dr. Phil says you need to know, consider and plan for when making a lifetime commitment. Join the discussion.

 

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June 17, 2006, 9:47 pm PDT

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 I'm saddened by the viciousness of some responses to your original message, and I can relate. I'm 37 and the mother of a 3-year-old and 1-year-old, and have been through the gamut of nosiness. It seemed for a long time that nothing I accomplished was ever good enough for anyone.

From the day I graduated college until I married at 27, I was asked constantly, "You aren't married yet. What's wrong with you?" It was not uttered in jest.

Two weeks after I returned from my honeymoon, someone left a pregnancy test with my name on it out on the nurse's station at the ER where I worked. My co-workers demanded to know if I was pregnant, yet, and if I wasn't, what was the problem? Since you're also a healthcare worker, you know how rumors fly through the ranks. When I wasn't pregnant within a year of being married, I was rumored to be everything from infertile to frigid. My husband and I actually wanted to be married to each other for several years before bringing children into the family, but no one seemed to understand that...not that it was ANY of their business, anyway.

When I became pregnant with my first daughter, the intrusive questions and unwanted advice flew faster: "What took so long? Was it planned? Were you trying? Did you have to see a specialist? Are you going to find out whether it's a boy or girl...you are?!? Wouldn't it be better to be surprised? What's your nursery theme going to be...you're NOT doing a theme? You HAVE to have a theme! Your poor baby, to not have a theme! You need to do this, this, this and this..." My husband and I were embarrassed and offended by some of these questions. We are not the kind of people who feel comfortable telling ANYONE ELSE whether we were "trying" or not. We didn't go crazy decorating a nursery and got accused by several of our neighbors of not loving our baby enough to get the very best for her. Instead, we established an interest-bearing college fund for her.

After we had our second daughter, the questions continued, but with a distressing tone. Instead of 'congratulations', what was said was, "So, are you going to try for a boy, next time? Little boys are the best. You need to have a boy."
My husband was more shocked than I was. In his words, "As if our little girl wasn't 'good' enough!"

I'm never surprised anymore by someone's invasive questions about my personal life. This is the day and age of airing all your dirty laundry on national television, after all. Seems like everyone is  wrapped up in collecting titillating tidbits (often false tidbits) about someone else's business, and they're just as wrapped up with telling others their business. It's difficult to deflect such TMI questions and advice: If you politely decline to answer, you're being evasive. If you have a 'comeback' for them, you're labeled a bitch. If you tell all, you're playing the game and being 'open'. It's a sad, catch-22.

But I was surprised to see the attacks toward your experiences on this message board. Your viewpoint seems well-thought-out and I happen to agree with your sentiments. For those of us who have our own lives, intrusive questions are inappropriate and in poor taste. I appreciate your honesty with this issue...sometimes it seems like the rest of the world has forgotten formerly accepted etiquette in this newfound atmosphere of "openness".

Hang in there!


People are never satisfied with the outcome, I was 37 when I had my first and 39 when I had my second and I too had questions about my life before that, "when are you going to marry?" "when are you going to have kids?" "Do you even want kids?? "Are you going to have another one?" "Are you going to try for a boy?"..................................But here is the best one,"YOUR'E THINKING ABOUT ANOTHER ONE?" AREN"T YOU A LITTLE TOO OLD FOR HAVING A BABY?"LOLLLLLLL. I am 43 now and yes, we have considered another one but, who knows, if it happens, we will be thrilled and will be wonderful parents to him/her and if not, we are still blessed, Life is good, so don't worry about others, for they are clueless about your life. :)
 
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June 17, 2006, 10:14 pm PDT

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This does not surpise me but it does appear that the women and the boy was affaid of the father that they summitted to him.  We can not chance the past question is what are u going to do right now about your marriage?  As you can get help and fix it or you can let what happened torn it up and that is up to the both of you.  But with the father in the life there is no marriage and never was.  As for the guy about the children you do not know the turn out of there children or forsee the tomorrows i have worked and been in places worked with many things like this and there has been children from very good homes with no fighting, yellin, trouble, drinking, druging, anything and they end up in more trouble then you know.  I have also seen children come from bad homes no chance of a home and they turn out one of the best children you sir can not judge the children.  I can see u have not seen much in life and only the bad not the good.
 
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June 18, 2006, 12:42 am PDT

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 I'm saddened by the viciousness of some responses to your original message, and I can relate. I'm 37 and the mother of a 3-year-old and 1-year-old, and have been through the gamut of nosiness. It seemed for a long time that nothing I accomplished was ever good enough for anyone.

From the day I graduated college until I married at 27, I was asked constantly, "You aren't married yet. What's wrong with you?" It was not uttered in jest.

Two weeks after I returned from my honeymoon, someone left a pregnancy test with my name on it out on the nurse's station at the ER where I worked. My co-workers demanded to know if I was pregnant, yet, and if I wasn't, what was the problem? Since you're also a healthcare worker, you know how rumors fly through the ranks. When I wasn't pregnant within a year of being married, I was rumored to be everything from infertile to frigid. My husband and I actually wanted to be married to each other for several years before bringing children into the family, but no one seemed to understand that...not that it was ANY of their business, anyway.

When I became pregnant with my first daughter, the intrusive questions and unwanted advice flew faster: "What took so long? Was it planned? Were you trying? Did you have to see a specialist? Are you going to find out whether it's a boy or girl...you are?!? Wouldn't it be better to be surprised? What's your nursery theme going to be...you're NOT doing a theme? You HAVE to have a theme! Your poor baby, to not have a theme! You need to do this, this, this and this..." My husband and I were embarrassed and offended by some of these questions. We are not the kind of people who feel comfortable telling ANYONE ELSE whether we were "trying" or not. We didn't go crazy decorating a nursery and got accused by several of our neighbors of not loving our baby enough to get the very best for her. Instead, we established an interest-bearing college fund for her.

After we had our second daughter, the questions continued, but with a distressing tone. Instead of 'congratulations', what was said was, "So, are you going to try for a boy, next time? Little boys are the best. You need to have a boy."
My husband was more shocked than I was. In his words, "As if our little girl wasn't 'good' enough!"

I'm never surprised anymore by someone's invasive questions about my personal life. This is the day and age of airing all your dirty laundry on national television, after all. Seems like everyone is  wrapped up in collecting titillating tidbits (often false tidbits) about someone else's business, and they're just as wrapped up with telling others their business. It's difficult to deflect such TMI questions and advice: If you politely decline to answer, you're being evasive. If you have a 'comeback' for them, you're labeled a bitch. If you tell all, you're playing the game and being 'open'. It's a sad, catch-22.

But I was surprised to see the attacks toward your experiences on this message board. Your viewpoint seems well-thought-out and I happen to agree with your sentiments. For those of us who have our own lives, intrusive questions are inappropriate and in poor taste. I appreciate your honesty with this issue...sometimes it seems like the rest of the world has forgotten formerly accepted etiquette in this newfound atmosphere of "openness".

Hang in there!


I'm with you sister  

   

I'm only 21 (22 next month) and I've been married for only ten months.  Already, I am getting all the stupid questions about kids.  Everytime I have period cramps at work, all the ladies swarm over me and say things like, "Oooo!  You're pregnant!" "It's about time, girl!" "We were starting to wonder if you two even had sex!"  Grrrrr!  Granted, if you lived where I do, you would understand that you have to be some sort of genius to not get pregnant.  The rate is 50% higher here than anywhere else in the state, which I don't understand.  Birth control, people!  Sorry, getting a bit off topic there.  But, my own family is just as bad.  I told them that I don't want kids and they keep pressuring me to change my mind!  It's crazy!
  

I don't want kids.  Ever.  They would just tie me down and hold me back.  Let the other people on this board have a zillion kids if they want, I don't care.  I just don't like all the questions and such just because I'm making a choice to not futher swell the explosion of people on this over-populated mudball.  I love kids and I babysit a lot.  I just don't EVER want to do it full time.  I want to travel and have fun with my husband.  I don't want to worry about my kids knocking over nicknacks from Norway or using drugs or whatever trendy thing comes along the next generation.  I see girls walking with their fathers wearing next to nothing and I get so angry!  If I had a daughter, she would never be outside the house in something like that.  But, I'm not having any daughters, and that's MY choice.  And everyone on this board that has made the decision to a) Have kids as soon as possible  b) Wait until they are ready financially/emotionally/etc.  or c) Never having kids.  And it's their choice!  That's what being an American is all about!  Making your own choices!  

   

Hang in there all my sisters making your OWN choices!  

 
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June 18, 2006, 8:09 am PDT

Rushed marriage twice/ Now disabled

I was only 19 when I got married the FIRST time. I was to ashamed to have anyone come over to the house.  By .the time I was 19. My father had been an alchoholic for as long as i could remember.   I would do anything just to be away from my father who hurt us girls in many ways.  

 So I met this fella through a C.B. Radio club. The biggest thing next to the computer to meet people.back in the 70's.  

We met and not long after was married. He turned from hero to wife beater overnight. I felt prisoner in my own home. after one very big beatings my neighbors that lived upstairs yelled at him, while they could not regognize me if i did not plaster the make up on.  

I finally broke down and called my mother. her and my sister came over while he was at work and I had off. and they loaded my car and theres with everything they could get in, the rest of the belongings that were mine I decided to give them up they were not worth going back for. 

 I decided to move in with 3 other gals I worked with since I was not ready to go home.Than not long after I became very ill and my sisters big wedding was coming up. I felt like I had the flue and  also thought I was about to have my period by the way my body felt. It was so hard to get out of bed. than I began to fall. I was able to go to the wedding, however my brother had to practically hold me up walking down the isle.  I finally after 7 weeks of begging the dr's to help me I was admitted to the hospital after 3 ER visits, (it's all in my head- to I had an abortion, and was hiding it from people so i was hyperventalating . This is what they told my mother). on to chyropracters, and again back to my Dr. who said I had a viral infection. I went to stay at home, and woke up and was paralyzed and began to choke, This was the day after my father went to rehab for alchohol. He got into an accident almost killing a young mother and her month old, so my oldest brother and mom took him and admitted him into detox. (to this day he is sober as can be) but next my mom and brother took me to the hospital. and when i began sipping my soda I began choking. a nurse regognized this as a illness called guillian Barre Syndrom from 10 years prior,she had seen a case. I spent almost a year in the hospital only to finally rule it out to be from trrauma from all the beatings i took from rushing into a marriage.this illness is usually called Ideopathic. (of unknown cause) however most cases they had seen were those that had the swine flue shot that they were giving back in the late 70's and early 80's, which I never had. 

now at 47 I have lost my ability to sing which I took 12 years of voice and was married to my music, I was in a few groups, and sang my first solo in the 8th grade in front of over 500 people. I cry offten over it. I also lost everything I owned which my roomates took while I was living with them. They took all my clothing and coin collection that i had just appraised at 22,000 dollars my bedroom suit,all my clothes I would wear onstage.you name it. However my voice was my prized prossesion. and I new before when this Dr kept taking the entire tube out, instead of just at the mouthpiece, and than he had to keep puting it back in a total of 4 times which when I went to a Dr at the Cleveland Clinic,who happened to be Bette Middlers Dr. Which I did not know at the time. did a video tape and I was told that my vocal chords were ruined. and I would need a voice transplant. which at the time they did not do them in the states.He also said he had never saw vocal chords as bad as mine were. before I got ill and went home. so by the time I was 23 I was put  on total disability. and to make things worse when I got out of the hospital after a long time, I had previously met a roomates  boy friends brother who happened to come home from the marines when his brother was found dead in a car in someones yard. He kept in touch with my family even though I had only met him once. the entire time I was ill and when I was able to have visitors after getting out of ICU after 4 months he came see me. 

well let me just tell you that history repeated itself after i got out. 

It's to bad that when I had it they had no trearment for it.. Now they have plasma pherisis, and IVIG. So I am in the 5% that relapse since I had to let it run its course and was hooked up on a ventalator 4 times, and every inch of my body was paralyed. Yet it's very painful because it deals with the peripheal lining that covers your nerves. they slowly disinigrated. and it feels like bare wires are touching one another. 

The most preciouse thing I lost was my voice. 

All because I was in a hurry to get married and not get to know them. 

thanks for reading 

Donna  

 
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June 18, 2006, 12:57 pm PDT

your kids, your self

its true you can't seem to make everyone happy with any given comment -sometimes not anybody! just imagine what you'd say to your own children on the subject, even if you don't have any. our opinions are colored by our own experiences, but there are occasions when a couple who feels forced gets 'lucky' and ends up content, if not happy. there's just no guarantee, and as i was trying to tell my daughter just today, her outlooks on life will change over time on certain subjects -what seems acceptable to her today in a spouse may not seem so in another decade. then there are the little bumps on the path, things you can't see coming, couldn't plan for if you tried! there's illness, financial problems, emotional and mental upsets ...people, in the best possible circumstances, outght to enter marriage and parenthood with certainty and joy, and feel best armed to do so -able to understand the implications of the committments attached. but alot of us don't even recognize those implications -we jump too quickly into the mix for the sake of what we thought or imagined it was about: romance, emotions -expectations of life! (parents' expectations as well.) or we don't truly recognize what WE want; what's important to us in our individual selves. i just wish -for my kids, that is- that they live lives in which their regrets are small compared to the joys experienced. i think that's all we can hope for. i might wish i had waited a bit longer to have children, for myself that is, but i wouldn't trade them for the world. i understand that i might have been a more affectionate parent if i had, which IS a very real regret of mine. but it's not too late once owned, and i am trying to do my best with the realization. good luck to all of you parents; be true to yourselves.  
 

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June 18, 2006, 2:50 pm PDT

Pressured into Marriage

 I was 14 when my mother arranged for me to marry a 19 year-old airman in Las Vegas, Nevada.  She lied about my age to pull this off and I was hoping and praying that someone would come to my rescue as I walked up the aisle of the Little Chapel Around the Corner.

As a result of this, I have been married five times and given birth to five children, 3 of whom are still living.  My fifth marriage took place 7 years ago to a lovely man from my church and we have been extremely happy.  I am almost 68 years old and it has taken me almost this long to find out who I am and what I have to offer in this world and what a wonderful revelation it is to me. 

My first three husbands were drinkers and abusers.  My fourth husband was 20 years older and an addicted gambler.  I had no father figure really.  Mom was married 9 times in her life and they were drinkers and abusers physically to her and sexually to both of her daughters.  I am thrilled that my life is completely turned around and I am deeply happy.  My three children are happily married and have lovely families.  They all married late in life, probably due to watching me and my mistakes but they were smart enough to learn.  My heart goes out to these people on your show.  My advise is to get counseling and when you find out who you are and where you are, take another road and leave this one behind.  Life is so very short and tigers rarely change their stripes.
 

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June 18, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

Married for the wrong reason

 It is really sad to see people make 2 mistakes. It is like they think marriage will fix something!! I married because I was pregnant. I felt like I had to either get married or give up the relationship.  Why not take some time to make sure it is what you need to do?!! I look back now and wish I had saved myself some heartache. I have been married 25 yrs but I will never have the things that I wanted in a marriage because we have different goals in life, different values.  I have counceled  a lot of girls and told them to not get married just because they are pregnant or they have had sex. Some listen, most don't.  A life time is a long time, so if you are going to make a life with someone, make sure that you enjoy the same things and not just sex. There are people that you can love but you can't live with them, because they are to different from you, or they are to much like you! But most of all you have to be committed from the beginning. To accept each other and live lives that help each other to become better people.  I do love my husband, I just wish for more out of life and I fill that empty slot with Jesus and it makes me whole!! That is the best thing for me and my family, it is not always easy but I know for me, He keeps me centered!
 

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June 18, 2006, 9:41 pm PDT

I Understand

My husband and I dated for almost 3 years before we got married. We lived together for 6 months before our engagement and our engagement only lasted for 2 months before we were pressured into marriage by his brother, who is a deacon in his church. Although we intended to get married, we really needed more time and a great deal of pre-marital counseling. Because we were gently "bullied" into marriage to prevent us from "living in sin", we have a very rocky marriage. We don't communicate well, there is a lack of affection between us, our sex life is almost non-existent, and at times, we really don't like each other very much. Sometimes, love just isn't enough. We are committed to making this marriage work, but my husband refuses to go to counseling with me because he feels that it's a waste of time. There are many things my husband likes to do that a married man really should not do. He is absolutely, positively not willing to change that. Because we didn't have time to find out how a marriage is supposed to work, and he didn't have time or counseling to find out how to be a husband, and I didn't have time or counseling to find out how to be a wife, our marriage is suffering. My advice to couples out there: do not take any steps in your relationship that you're not ready to take. It's just not worth it in the end.
 
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June 19, 2006, 3:26 am PDT

What is the downer about college first?

I started reading the posts about what college is about.  According to some people its about drinking and partying.  I believe college is very important and that parents should emphasize that to their children.  I have 37 credits there and attended in my 30s and want to go back and finish my associates in science and then get the major in nursing.  Education makes you more marketable and financially secure.  You may be successful without college attendance but in this global market world having some kind of technical or college skill is mandatory and gives you an edge.  The days of factory jobs that pay you a liveable wage are history. 

  

Also, being an independent adult does make you a more well rounded person.  I'm 41 and all my life experiences as an independent adult, who doesn't rely on another person for all my financial stability (I'm talking not having a husband for co-dependence), makes me a more confident self sufficient person than a female who went from their mommy's and daddy's house to a man taking care of them. 

  

  

 
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June 19, 2006, 7:03 am PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. Pressured Into Marriage is not good at all unless you are a women who isin high dem 

anding and have a right to do it. Lucky for me I am not getting marry at all. See you today and tomo- 

rrow Afternoon. Well I had better close now. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.------------------------- 

 
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