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Created on : Friday, January 06, 2006, 01:45:12 pm
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(Original Air Date: 01/11/06) She used to have it all: A husband, a beautiful home, a great job and many friends. But a crippling alcohol addiction for the past 10 years has turned Lisa’s dream life into a nightmare. One step away from being homeless, Lisa trades sexual favors for alcohol just to get through the day. Joani, a recovering addict who's been trying to help, records Lisa's debilitating addiction and the disturbing symptoms of withdrawal when she tries to go without a drink. Lisa has failed in rehab three times and is ready to give up on life. Can Dr. Phil convince her to give it one more try? Talk about the show here.

 

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January 12, 2006, 8:52 pm PST

01/11 Living on the Edge

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Hi my name is crissy and i have 3 children 11,7 and 6 i have been married for just over 6 years and left my husband 2 months ago because he is a heavy drinker and always has been since i met him,he quits and starts back up and has even got in a wreck after drinking almost killing his self and his brother, he has made promises that he won't drink anymore but has never kept them,since i left we had made agreements to get back together if he quits drinking but he still hasn't and i am so tired i can't do it anymore and i can't watch the kids go through it either,i want to give up but i do love him what does a person do he has said he would get help and never does!

Hi Crissy,  

At this point your husband needs tough love. I think you should stay seperated from him but stay commited to him and be supportive of him. Allow him to see the kids under supervision. You married him for better or for worse. Alcoholism is one of the hardest if not the hardest addiction to overcome. It is going to take alot of work but he can't do it alone. 

 
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January 12, 2006, 8:59 pm PST

01/11 Living on the Edge

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I have a cousin who lives in Texas.  I live in Colorado.  We are both 34 years old, and she is an alcoholic, bellimic, and anorexic.  She is married and has two boys.   Her husband is in the military stationed in Fort Hood, TX.  They both drink alcohol everyday.  Her son has told me that she leaves the house at 5 p.m. to go to the bar to meet her husband, and they stay there drinking all evening long, everyday.  She is also an anorexic, and at the age of 34 only weighs 80 lbs.  I don't know what to do.  I don't have the money to go to Texas because I am a stay at home Mom with 2 young boys, and my husband works.  So, I can't leave the boys with him if I go to Texas to try to help her.  One of her boys has asked if he could come and live with me and my family.  I have asked his Mom if he could at least visit for the summer, and she is refusing to let him leave.  I feel so bad for her boys which are 15 and 17 but, she will not admit her problem, and she refuses to get any help, and she barely talks to me on the telephone.  She has called in the middle of the night while she was drunk saying that her husband is having an affair, and that she is going to kill herself.   I feel so helpless, and do not know what to do....
Honestly, what can you do? She is your cousin, not your child/parent/husband. I understand your need to help but you state you don't have the means. Even if you did try to get the money together to go to Texas it does not guarantee that you can help her. The only thing you can do is pray for her. I do feel sorry for the kids. The 17 yr old is old enough to leave home, so that is a decision he can make on his own. Sorry to be so brutally honest, I really am.
 
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January 12, 2006, 9:19 pm PST

Get Pushy!

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My future mother in law has been an alcaholic for almost ten years. She is a wonderful person, she has tried AA, and it did not work. We have looked into rehab, but she does not have insurance, so she is unable to afford it. How do you get help, when you don't have the money to pay for it? We are all on our last leg, and really reaching out for help. We live in Ohio, so if anyone knows anywhere we could get help, it would be greatly appriciated.

I went to a rehab facility that made accomodations for income level by either waiving the fee altogether or reducing the cost significantly and giving payment plans.  Talk to them and ask them about how to get some assistance.  Don't take no for an answer--it's too important. 

  

Good Luck. 

 
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January 13, 2006, 12:28 am PST

I believe

Lisa- 

If you read this,  

I just want you to know that your life, as horrible and hopeless as it may seem now, WILL get better. I worry that you will hold on to the hurts from your mother. I saw the faint glimmer of hope in your eyes. When Dr Phil was telling you that you are worth something, I also saw you telling yoursef, "yeah right. If only he knew. I don't believe a word of it, because it;s just not true. I must have pulled something out of my sleeve to make him believe that."  

I am an alcoholic. I have gone to AA meetings drunk, I have been in rehab twice (through the courts). When I saw you, I was looking in the mirror. My last drink was a short 3 months ago. I don't tremble any longer. . I heard you say you didn't want to think about alcohol every day. I am getting to the point where I can think about alcohol, and not feel scared or angry or yearning. I saw you puking as I have done so many days. It sucks. It's like, okay, I want to drink so I can puke and cry, want to die, puke and cry, want to die. Getting that poisen out of your system does give you a new perspective!! 

When I got resentful and decided I was tired of talking, living, eating, reading, sociallizing and studying sobriety, I started drinking. Make no mistake, it is hard work. As is anything worthwhile. But it's also a heck of a lot more fun! 

Now I think in terms of who I want to be, how I want to feel, what I want to do, and what I need to live a happy and fullfilling life. I hope that you will find that. You are not alone. Thank you for reminding me that I am not alone.  Sounds weird from a stranger, but I do live your struggles.. Thank you 

 
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January 13, 2006, 12:55 am PST

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Just this past Sunday my nephew flew in from Upstate NY to live with me. Last night we had a long talk and he told me that he has never felt loved, that if he overdosed on drugs nobody would even notice that he was gone. He also went on to tell me that he has been doing crack cocaine every day for the past year. He claims that how he paid for his habit is the dealers used him to deliver the drugs. 

  

When we talked he said that he thinks he can stay away from the crack (which I personally doubt) but he could NEVER stay away from the pot. He tells me that he is going crazy without it and has to find some and get high 

  

I am already in a situation where I am trying to save my marriage. My husband has been gone for 3 weeks on a Pilgrimage to Mecca and will be back soon. 

  

  

My nephew is 20 years old, His mother ( my sister ) a year ago left his father after 25 years of marriage. His mother is now in a gay relationship ( which he does not like at all ). His father needs medication to control his "moods" and is not taking them.  

  

If I send him back he will go right back to the drugs and be living with a father who is not normal.  His father is already calling saying "If you are not back in a month I am going to quit my job and come out there and get you!! "  

  

He wants help but I think this is over my head.  

  

I do not want to let him down. He already has had so many disappointments in his life. 

  

What do I do next ?? 

Takes time to get in..  N/a AA, Al-anon..  Some churches also.. Please read other posts..  Also in Custody Battles.
 
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January 13, 2006, 1:56 am PST

2004vette

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Hello there.  Your post made me so very sad, and I am so sorry for what you are going through.  You are not rambling-you are merely expressing your feelings.  I am the female counterpart to your husband.  I am the same age, and I am fighting like he-- to get sober so that I don't lose my beloved family.  Please remember that he has a disease, and that he cannot help what he does sometimes.  It is such a powerful monster that some people are not strong enough to overcome it.  But still have faith-he may come around.  Maybe when he realizes that he is losing the most important person in his life to this disease he will get sober.  He does, though, need to be out of that bad environment.  I have to be soooooooo careful of that same situation, as I am a self-proclaimed "party girl".  It is not cute when you are 47.  I am NOT the life of the party anymore.  Time to grow up...thanks again for your post, and I will watch for your powerful posts.
 hi their i read your post and it was like i was reading my story, exactly to the time frame of being married however i do not have any children all that you say about your husband is the same with mine including the whole bi polar thing...my husband and i have split up and it has been over a year and i have moved on with my life...however i feel a whole lot of guilt about everything and dont know how to get rid of it...and their isnt a day that goes by that i dont think about how i could of done something different or better to make the situation different...i am originally from canada and moved here to the united states to be married i gave up a job of 15 years and got married and at no time did i ever think that my life would have turned out this way...yes i knew my husband was a teenage alcholic however when we got married he was 40 yyears old and hadnt drank since he was 18 yrs old...one day he has a drink and from that point on it was a nightmare....having no experience with alcholic/drug problems as my life growing up was  pretty normal and did i ever think one drink would ever turn into a complete nightmare and i completely feel horrible about it all...i really thought there had been a chance but he would not get help and so i left...... feeling guilty every single day..
how  have you been able to deal with this all and maybe we could help each other out...any suggestions????



 
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January 13, 2006, 2:10 am PST

i hope she gets well

       First of all, it takes a lot of courage to talk openly about your problems; whats more, to be on tv while discussing them. She has already taken a skip forward. I cannot judge her, because i've made many mistakes because i was drinking. I think many people have. Her mistakes were extreme, but  can be rectified. She is going in the right direction, if that is her path of choice. She can change. She can be better, and she will. After all she has already taken a skip. 

 

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January 13, 2006, 2:36 am PST

my husbands circumstances

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When I read your post I felt compelled to reply.  I also live in your state (in fact I live rather close to you, I think), and I am the female counterpart of your husband.  There is one difference, however, and that is the fact that I am going to fight like heck to overcome this demon once and for all!  Your message gave me renewed hope. and I thank you for that...I am so very sorry for your loss, and I am sorry that your husband did not have the strength to beat this monster.  God bless.

My husband was not drinking anymore when he decided to go to that party and I believe he also got in there with others drinking and in that type of situation if someone asked if he wanted another beer he would say sure. I was and still am totally baffled by how he went to that party. I thought he was working and then I found out he wasn't so then I was even more baffled by it. As I said the person that through the party knew from other co-workers that I was searching for an answer as to where he was at that time of the early morning.  I'm not totally sure what if he could have been labeled an alcoholic and that is only because when he was home he didn't drink he used to get four weeks vacation and he never drank during his time off. It was never in my house because of my kids. I didn't even buy it for the kids birthday parties. I remember telling my mom that if my one brother had ideas that he was gonna come to a birthday party for my daughter that he think again about trying to bring alcohol into my home. My mom said you have to have some there for the adults if they want it. I told her if they cannot come to my childs birthday party and drink soda or coffee then they didn't need to come at all. My mom used to get a case of beer for our parties when we were kids but she never really drank it was her brothers. I'm a very firm believer that alcohol has no business being served at a childs party. I have to say that my husband made a fatal judgement call and alcohol does kill. I'm baffled by how the government can make such a strong stance against the tobacco companies because they claim cigarettes kill you. They made the tobacco companies drop there sponsership of sports events and advertising. If you smoke a cigarette yes you may eventually die from cancer however why leave the breweries advertise beer an item that when a person gets behind the wheel of a vehicle after having drank slightly more than they should that vehicle is turned into a weapon and kills or severely injures people right away. What are they thinking?  I mean they want to complain about the kids getting a hold of alcohol underage and they want to put all kinds of restrictions on them if they get caught  but yet they leave these companies advertise and make it look so great and so good when its not. I think alcohol should be pulled from sponsoring sports ,concerts anything because all its doing is sensationalizing it for the kids out there and re-enforcing the thought that hey its cool to drink.  TO THE KIDS OUT THERE NO IT'S NOT COOL TO DRINK, ITS NOT COOL TO GO AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BUY YOU BEER AND THEN YOU GET BEHIND THE WHEEL. IT'S A FAST WAY TO HEAVEN AND THATS ALL IT IS. 

 
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January 13, 2006, 5:50 am PST

thanks again...

Quote From: mischif12

 Go to message board then scroll down the categories to health click on mental health and then click on addiction support. That's where you can find me most of the time. As to AA availability I suggest that you go to the general service office of AA in your area. Get a meeting schedule. You may find that there are virtually 100's of meetings in your area that you didn't know about. Sometimes you have to go to a lot of different meetings before you find the ones where you feel really comfortable. And no matter what meeting you find yourself at always remember to concentrate on the similarities you share with others there and not the differences. 

  

Remember that acceptance is the answer. 

  

Peace and Namaste 

  

Mischif 

  

I took your advice and called AA.  Meeting schedule is on its way, and I took a look at the board you were talking about.  I feel good about my decision to stop this monster from claiming me.  This is only my 3rd day sober, so I have a verrrry long way to go.  Thanks for your help.
 
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January 13, 2006, 5:57 am PST

thanks again for your story...

Quote From: mmyof3

Thank you so much for your response to my post.  I know how hard that internal fight is that you have with yourself.  My husband often would say that he hated to drink, but hated the thought of stopping.  He would drink day after day to calm the shakes, to self medicate himself.  He would set dates time after time promising he would stop.  He would get through 1 or 2 days and then ask if its ok if he could just have Little, I often gave in.  Don't give up, it is a process. If you fall get back up , never feel like you failed.  Just be proud that you tried!!  My husband was a wonderful man and we had so many incredible times.  I am sure you are a very wonderful, caring person.  You need to remember that and build on it.  Remember that you are worth the love and respect of yourself. 
Thanks again for the words of encouragement.  I hope that this demon does not get the best of me, and today I feel very good.  But I need to be cautiously optimistic, as I know that after about the 5th day the cravings start all over again.  I am only on my 3rd day, but I am taking active steps to fight this thing this time.  Unlike your hubby, I HATE drinking, and I LOVE the thought of being sober.  Fortunately, I do not have the shakes.  My hubby is taking an active role in my recovery this time, and promising not to give in like you did (he always did as well).  Well, off to the gym and then to an AA meeting.  Take care!
 
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