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Created on : Friday, January 13, 2006, 02:18:32 pm
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Does your child rage, scream and kick doors? Is his or her behavior the typical brattiness of a spoiled child, or involuntary behavior beyond the child's control? Dr. Phil sheds light on a pair of widely misunderstood extreme neurological disorders. First, he looks at Asperger's syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism which can cause a person to lack control over his or her emotions, including anger. Rich and Karen's 15-year-old son, Alex, was diagnosed with Asperger's at age 6. His sudden fits of rage and erratic behavior have put a strain on his whole family. Should his parents be afraid of Alex, or is there something they can do to bring his behavior under control? Plus, Craig, 37, can't control his physical tics, nor can he keep from constantly uttering obscenities, literally hundreds of times a day. Craig suffers from Tourette syndrome, an affliction that's gotten so bad, he won't go into grocery stores, movie theatres or any public place for fear he'll be kicked out. What will the disorder mean for his plans to start a family? Talk about the show here.

 

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January 16, 2006, 12:33 pm CST

Aspergers

I have Aspergers and am 34. Most my life was being bullied. I have zero anger for months on end. Once in a while, it is an explosion like this. If I'm being bullied bad...I take the advice to ignore it literally but it seems to not work. I don't appreciate being demonized as someone who will be the next Columbine gunman. Although, bullying does push people to those limits. More often, children die. Here is something I found and it relates to Bullycide: 

  

A boy of five sat still in class.
Not talking, not saying a word.
The teacher asks him a question
He does not answer.
The children laugh.

A boy of six sat still in a class
The boy behind him took a magic marker.
And colored the back of his head in red.
He does not respond.
"Ignore them" was all he thought.
The children laugh.

A boy of seven sat still in class.
Day to give your book report.
He knows to get up.
He walks to the front.
The children laugh.

A boy of eight sat still in class.
They go out to recess and then the bell rings
They bind him with jumpropes
Cover him with leaves
In middle of the driveway.
The children laughed.

A boy of nine sat still on the grounds.
They play dodge ball...
They hit the boy
"Ignore them" he thinks.
"Lets use rocks!" says one.
The children laughed.

A boy of nine lies still in the grass
His blood weeping now on the cool damp earth.
His mother sweeps up her dead child in her arms.
"How could they do this to you?"
The children laughed.
 

  

  

 
January 16, 2006, 1:47 pm CST

Thank you Alex's Mom

Thank you for having the courage to go on tv and show the world how wonderful but challenging it can be to have an Aspie.  My son is 11 years old and was diagnosed two years ago.  Elementary school was very hard because his school wouldn't recognize the diagnosis.  Even though we were diagnosed by the leading specialist in the Hudson Valley.  Middle school is a little better.  But now the social aspect of Asperger's Syndrome really comes out. 

  

As I am writing this, Bradley is in his room screaming because he can't perfect the video game he is playing.  You try to reason with him that it is only a game but he gets even more upset and strts calling me names and tells me he hates me.  By the way this episode of Dr. Phil hits me twice because Bradley also has Tourette's.   

  

Bradley is an extremely intelligent child.  As I always tell people he is in the body of an 11 year old, the intelligence of a genius but the mind and emotions of an 8 year old.  Sometimes I don't even know how he deals with the conflict from within. 

  

But at the end of the day when he finally winds down and I sneak in his room to make sure he is asleep.  One look at his face makes me feel like I am the luckiest Mom in the world.  The saying that God only gives these special children to special Moms, is so true, because I feel very special every day that I am his mom. 

  

Thanks again!! 

 
January 16, 2006, 2:13 pm CST

Son with AS and tourettes

I have an eleven year old son with AS and tourettes syndrome he also has adhd. My sons tics started when he was 8 and have recently started to become more prevalent. I will be watching the show on tuesday , I hope it doesnt disappoint me seeing as Im an adult with AS Also 
 
January 16, 2006, 4:14 pm CST

Aspergers Syndrone

I am the proud grandmother of a six year old grandson named Corey. Corey was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrone around his third birthday but we were noticing obvious changes in behaviour at two or maybe slightly before. The most obvious signs that there was something exceptional about my grandson was the fact that his memory was photogenic. IF he heard it, it was a given that he would remember and research and learn more about any subject. This may not sound too amazing but we are talking about a child 18 to 24 months who would sing complete songs, knew the alphabet, could read, knew the name of every car on the market, etc....etc... I knew we were dealing with something I had never witnessed before. The only thing we noticed other than we were dealing with a little Einstein was the occasional meltdowns and impulsive actions he would take. We could never leave him alone for a second and he demanded total attention. This was great for me because I think he is amazing and I did not want to miss anything but his mom was stressed alot of the time because she had him all the time and she is a single mom and her exhusband has nothing to do with him . I do not understand completely how Asperger's happen but I do know that I do not look on this as a bad thing. I think my grandson will make a difference in this world for the good. At times there are struggles for him at school mostly because of the social issues  but all in all now he is making mostly A's and B's in conduct. Not always but mostly. He has been going to school since three but this year he is in the first grade and for the first time he has wonderful, talented, gifted, loving teachers who study this syndrone and look on it as a gift and not something they should try to avoid. I thank God for Ms. Hood, Ms. Quidry and Ms. Parker at  Haskew Elementary every day and night in prayers and pray that others out there are as fortunate as Corey to be blessed with such teachers. Yes, Corey can be a handful but mostly he is charming and a total delight for me to love and cherish and I am thankful to have to child in my life.
 
January 16, 2006, 4:45 pm CST

Disorder

I saw the broadcast for tomorrows show for Dr. Phil and I saw my son.  That is exactly how he behaves at times.  I haven't seen the show yet it airs tomorrow.   My son was reading 11th grade level in 4th grade, we had a wonderful support system at the elementary school.  He has ADD.   He is now in 8th grade and he is failing 3 classes.  We have no support system with this junior high.  He can be very explosive at home but the Adderal he takes for school  subdues the urge to hit and retaliate.  The "brattiness" comes out though.  Because of his "disrespectful behavior" the teachers do not want him around and will send him to  the office.  And because of so many office referrals he is now suspended for 3 days at home and 7 days at an off campus sight.   

I remember bringing my son home from the hospital as a new born. He would jerk his head back and arch his back because the milk was not coming out fast enough when I would bottle feed him.   He was kicked out of 3 day cares before kindergarten.  

  

This has been going on for 13 years!!!!! 

  

How did you go about find out about this disorder?   .  As a mother I know there is something more going on here... But I don't know where to turn.  

 
January 16, 2006, 4:45 pm CST

Karen is reading this ans all comments

Quote From: hootwass

I have been writing to Dr. Phil about this topic for some time.  I'm glad to see he finally is doing a show on Asperger's.  I really am anxious to see how much he touches on teens and ASD (Austism Spectrum Disorder).  I hope he doesn't focus so much on the outbursts.  Outbursts on a part of Asperger's, but I believe the social aspect is just as hard on children.  Kids can be so cruel in middle/junior high and high school. 

  

My son is 12, almost 13 and has ASD.  He is very high functioning and does well in school with just a little assistance from some awesome resource teachers.  I'm more concerned with his social abilities.  Adolescence wtih ASD have so much more to face then mainstream adolescence.  They're can be trusting soles and learn to adapt in the social world by mimicing those behaviors around them.  They are not aware of the dangers out their (ie, bullies, dating do's & don'ts, peer pressure at parties, etc.).  Kids with ASD don't recognize body language, tone in voices.  It's literally and physically painful to look a bullies  in the eye and confont them.  Sometime's they don't even recognize when they are being bullied.   

  

Yes, there are physical symptoms to ASD, but the emotional and social symptoms are most times ignored.  I'm looking forward to seeing what this show has to offer. 

  

Karen - if you are reading this, I do not wish to make light of your son and his symptoms.  I'm sure when he's good, he's good, but when he's stressed and feeling overwhelmed  he's over the top (known as Fight or Flight).  My son can get that way too ( I call them meltdowns).  Sometimes, I'm fortunate enought to catch him and bring  him back down, before he goes over the top.  From what I've read so far, it sounds like Dr. Phil has helped your family.  I wish you and your famly the best. 

Although Dr. Phil and staff did show a lot of the MELTDOWNS we did discuss how wonderful Alex can be.  Alex has a heart of gold when his electrical system is not out of control.  Alex not only is ASPERGER but also has ADHD and Mood Disorders.  Usually an Asperger individual has multiple neurological issues and they overlap. 

  

We have feared Alex over the years and yet we know he has so much good in him that we are SEARCHING for the answers to help him be more even tempered and to face each day as a wonderful challenge. 

  

None of us are perfect we all have issues but it is learning to work with the imperfections and for some it's medication and therapy and for others it's diet and meds or diet and therapy.  Whatever it is, I only hope that Alex and the many other individuals out there that can relate to him will be able to find the help to their issues and make their lives better. 

  

It tears me apart when his meltdowns cause him to say things like, I want to die, I want out of this world, I'm a retard....  The bottom line is Alex is very bright,  He is very talented, he has a beautiful singing voice.  Alex loves sports and ask him anything about Baseball and he will show you his true passion. 

  

So even if Dr. Phil shows the MELTDOWN side it's OK, because he has led us to help and help will be there for others.  I pledge to let others know what they too can do for themselves as well as for others. 

  

Keep well and know you and your child are in our thoughts and prayers. 

 
January 16, 2006, 4:51 pm CST

God Bless a Grandmother who understands

Quote From: gemini51

I am the proud grandmother of a six year old grandson named Corey. Corey was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrone around his third birthday but we were noticing obvious changes in behaviour at two or maybe slightly before. The most obvious signs that there was something exceptional about my grandson was the fact that his memory was photogenic. IF he heard it, it was a given that he would remember and research and learn more about any subject. This may not sound too amazing but we are talking about a child 18 to 24 months who would sing complete songs, knew the alphabet, could read, knew the name of every car on the market, etc....etc... I knew we were dealing with something I had never witnessed before. The only thing we noticed other than we were dealing with a little Einstein was the occasional meltdowns and impulsive actions he would take. We could never leave him alone for a second and he demanded total attention. This was great for me because I think he is amazing and I did not want to miss anything but his mom was stressed alot of the time because she had him all the time and she is a single mom and her exhusband has nothing to do with him . I do not understand completely how Asperger's happen but I do know that I do not look on this as a bad thing. I think my grandson will make a difference in this world for the good. At times there are struggles for him at school mostly because of the social issues  but all in all now he is making mostly A's and B's in conduct. Not always but mostly. He has been going to school since three but this year he is in the first grade and for the first time he has wonderful, talented, gifted, loving teachers who study this syndrone and look on it as a gift and not something they should try to avoid. I thank God for Ms. Hood, Ms. Quidry and Ms. Parker at  Haskew Elementary every day and night in prayers and pray that others out there are as fortunate as Corey to be blessed with such teachers. Yes, Corey can be a handful but mostly he is charming and a total delight for me to love and cherish and I am thankful to have to child in my life.

I hear your story and you are one of the lucky ones.  Although our Alex is extremely bright, talented, sings well and loves to perform!  He is a sports fanatic and has been since age 4, so we can relate.  However his form of Asperger's also includes a mood swing disorder and that is what has pulled us apart and takes a toll  on the family.  We love him so much, and that is why we reached out to Dr. Phil.  Dr. Phil and his staff have been WONDERFUL and the resources they have provided are amazing. 

  

We hope that people will understand ASPERGER SYNDROME is a huge spectrum and that not all ASPERGER Children are like Alex but those that are need more help and need to be understood.  Parents such and myself and my husband need some respite as well. 

  

We aren't complaining we are blessed to have Alex, but we want to provide the best life for him and hopefully others will benefit as well. 

  

 
January 16, 2006, 5:01 pm CST

To a Special Mom

Quote From: jeanne1237

Thank you for having the courage to go on tv and show the world how wonderful but challenging it can be to have an Aspie.  My son is 11 years old and was diagnosed two years ago.  Elementary school was very hard because his school wouldn't recognize the diagnosis.  Even though we were diagnosed by the leading specialist in the Hudson Valley.  Middle school is a little better.  But now the social aspect of Asperger's Syndrome really comes out. 

  

As I am writing this, Bradley is in his room screaming because he can't perfect the video game he is playing.  You try to reason with him that it is only a game but he gets even more upset and strts calling me names and tells me he hates me.  By the way this episode of Dr. Phil hits me twice because Bradley also has Tourette's.   

  

Bradley is an extremely intelligent child.  As I always tell people he is in the body of an 11 year old, the intelligence of a genius but the mind and emotions of an 8 year old.  Sometimes I don't even know how he deals with the conflict from within. 

  

But at the end of the day when he finally winds down and I sneak in his room to make sure he is asleep.  One look at his face makes me feel like I am the luckiest Mom in the world.  The saying that God only gives these special children to special Moms, is so true, because I feel very special every day that I am his mom. 

  

Thanks again!! 

I just called Alex in as I read your note.  This sounds like me writing about Alex.  Alex not only has AS but he has Mood Swing Disorders, that causes the influx of his meltdowns.  Alex too has the obsessive need to play video games and WIN.  You cannot reason with him and he too will yell, scream, hit, throw and call me names. 

  

Alex wants Bradley to know that what he did in middle school to get through the social aspects was to show off all of his talents, in Alex's case it was Singing, and still is.  Alex also is a sports fanatic and he got himself involved as a team manager when he wasn't able to make the team.   

  

In Middle School he ran cross country (and although not fast he competed against himself week after week and improved!)  Alex says being on the sports teams gives him the opportunity to mix with Upper Class men which works for him, they seem to accept him better then his own classmates. 

  

Girls also seem to be more understanding as well....although at an age where they want to begin dating, having a male friend is important to them and they will gravitate towards Bradley too. 

  

Alex wishes Bradley all the luck in the world.  Please keep in touch and know we care, we've been there and we're still there! 

  

  

 
January 16, 2006, 5:06 pm CST

Hangon

Quote From: lisag3367

I saw the broadcast for tomorrows show for Dr. Phil and I saw my son.  That is exactly how he behaves at times.  I haven't seen the show yet it airs tomorrow.   My son was reading 11th grade level in 4th grade, we had a wonderful support system at the elementary school.  He has ADD.   He is now in 8th grade and he is failing 3 classes.  We have no support system with this junior high.  He can be very explosive at home but the Adderal he takes for school  subdues the urge to hit and retaliate.  The "brattiness" comes out though.  Because of his "disrespectful behavior" the teachers do not want him around and will send him to  the office.  And because of so many office referrals he is now suspended for 3 days at home and 7 days at an off campus sight.   

I remember bringing my son home from the hospital as a new born. He would jerk his head back and arch his back because the milk was not coming out fast enough when I would bottle feed him.   He was kicked out of 3 day cares before kindergarten.  

  

This has been going on for 13 years!!!!! 

  

How did you go about find out about this disorder?   .  As a mother I know there is something more going on here... But I don't know where to turn.  

Please hold on and watch.  I know how you feel and that's why I wrote Dr. Phil.  The message board is taking up my life right now but that's OK because maybe WE ALL CAN GET HELP.  Alex is AS as well as ADHD and has Mood Swing Disorders. 

  

Schools do not have the training and the facilities to work with us.  We have been a bit luckier but I battle with the school system weekly (sometimes daily).   

  

After the show you will know where to turn, if not, please contact me through the message board again and I will be there for you. 

  

Please know there is light at the end of the tunnel but the tunnel is long...............................We still have not started the new treatment yet and we are awaiting the next stage. 

  

With loving thoughts.  Karen 

 
January 16, 2006, 5:13 pm CST

There is life with AS

Quote From: spitfireca

I am a middle aged woman with Aspergers (or AS as we call it). I have a university degree and am happily married to a wonderful 'normal' man. (Normal meaning he doesn't have AS/Aspergers).  

  

I was not out of control as a child nor am I now. I am more fiesty because I have to be to live in a world where people are not sensitive to me and those like me. I have lost jobs and friends due to thier quick judgements. So I have since throw my hands up in the air and went into something for myself.  

  

I have two kids, the eldest with AS. He is very shy and prone to panic attacks. He is not on meds at this moment but maybe by the end of the month once he sees his dr. We have started on alternative medicine for him and he is holding up. He is not angery or unkind but very senisite to the world around him. Luckily he has two very good boys who have befriended him. He is intellingent and very wise for his age. I fear for his future because of how he is treated and viewed.  

  

AS people have dealt with alot of hostilty by the world> It is not visable nor is it 'contagious'. It just is. Period. We can do amny things with our talents. Now the world should let us shine and stop treating us like we are inferior. Drugs may help us but only we can help ourselves. With the love and support of others , such as friends, and family. 

  

C. Cross 

Thank you for writing and I do hope you will watch.  I know that this spectrum is vast and not all AS people will see themselves in our story.  Alex has ADHD as well as Mood Swing Disorders and all together it makes life pretty hectic for us all.  It has me sad as I have seen the good in my child and I want what is best for him.  But I too want a life and I am tired of the uncaring people around us.  I had to go to this extreme to get help for Alex and others like him. 

  

My niece has twins each with AS one is docile the other is Hyperactive.  I love them both and I will be supportive to her and to the twins and all others with this condition as I cannot imagine what is going on in the brains of an AS individual who often times feels so out of control of their own thinking. 

  

You will see how much we love Alex and we will continue to fight for what he needs to make it in this world. 

 
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