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Does your child rage, scream and kick doors? Is his or her behavior the typical brattiness of a spoiled child, or involuntary behavior beyond the child's control? Dr. Phil sheds light on a pair of widely misunderstood extreme neurological disorders. First, he looks at Asperger's syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism which can cause a person to lack control over his or her emotions, including anger. Rich and Karen's 15-year-old son, Alex, was diagnosed with Asperger's at age 6. His sudden fits of rage and erratic behavior have put a strain on his whole family. Should his parents be afraid of Alex, or is there something they can do to bring his behavior under control? Plus, Craig, 37, can't control his physical tics, nor can he keep from constantly uttering obscenities, literally hundreds of times a day. Craig suffers from Tourette syndrome, an affliction that's gotten so bad, he won't go into grocery stores, movie theatres or any public place for fear he'll be kicked out. What will the disorder mean for his plans to start a family? Talk about the show here.

 

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January 17, 2006, 3:15 pm PST

Older and Asbergers

Quote From: spitfireca

I am a middle aged woman with Aspergers (or AS as we call it). I have a university degree and am happily married to a wonderful 'normal' man. (Normal meaning he doesn't have AS/Aspergers).  

  

I was not out of control as a child nor am I now. I am more fiesty because I have to be to live in a world where people are not sensitive to me and those like me. I have lost jobs and friends due to thier quick judgements. So I have since throw my hands up in the air and went into something for myself.  

  

I have two kids, the eldest with AS. He is very shy and prone to panic attacks. He is not on meds at this moment but maybe by the end of the month once he sees his dr. We have started on alternative medicine for him and he is holding up. He is not angery or unkind but very senisite to the world around him. Luckily he has two very good boys who have befriended him. He is intellingent and very wise for his age. I fear for his future because of how he is treated and viewed.  

  

AS people have dealt with alot of hostilty by the world> It is not visable nor is it 'contagious'. It just is. Period. We can do amny things with our talents. Now the world should let us shine and stop treating us like we are inferior. Drugs may help us but only we can help ourselves. With the love and support of others , such as friends, and family. 

  

C. Cross 

  

I had never heard of this disorder before, but I was perplexed by some of the aspects of it due to my own attempts to "fix" personality problems of mine.  Frankly, I recognised aspects of it in myself including the rages, which I haven't had one in a while, and the overall problems with making and keeping friends.  Dr. Phil's symptom for kids up to 11 having an encyclopedia like focus on a particular area of interest also is right on for me as a kid (and to a lesser extent now). Could I have this?  Is there anything beneficial to me about knowing if I did? 

  

I have been plagued my entire life by a problem with getting along with people.  I'm 31 and have been on anti-depressants for several years.  A few years ago I was diagnosed with tendencies of borderline personality disorder, and I recognized what I read about that in the book.  The anti-depressants smoothed things out and gave me longer-term perspective on my emotional waves, but I still have a general problem dealing with people.   

  

As my last boss told me (as I was getting fired), I have an incredible ability to make people not like me.  Another person told me that she thinks I don't even realize sometimes when I have been rude to someone.  It is as if I am going through life speaking a completely different language, unable to know what I should be saying and unable to read signs that most people pick-up on right way. 

  

I have been concentrating on just trying to work on my personality, thinking perhaps I just have an arrogant personality.  But maybe there is something else going on? 

  

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January 17, 2006, 3:18 pm PST

Very Inspiring!

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I have a mild form of Autism.  It's probably Aspergers now, but at the time I was diagnosed, it was an extreme form of Autism. (48/50) The thing that probably lessened my Autism was 2 things; I was diagnosed at 18 months, and my Mom and my sister never gave up. Now I'm 13, and I'm basically like a "normal" kid, I talk, don't throw fits fits (though I can get a bit moody like all teens do), and I soical with other kids. One thing I probably recommend to other people that have kids with Autism is to keep them around other people that don't have special needs. I think being around kids without special needs helped my social matters a lot. I'm not saying I'm prefect, I have things about me that I find harder to deal with then other do. I have to work VERY hard to figure out a social situation, and I find it hard to forgive people. I work hard, get lots of A's (sorry had to say that), and I know that I'm lucky to be able to type this.

Thank you for sharing your story with those posting here. 

For 13,  it sounds like you and your family have worked together to make your life all it can be! 

Your Mother & Sister, supporting you, is something that every child with AS needs. 

No reason to apologize for Displaying your achievements of your Grades, Be Proud!!  :) 

Socializing with non AS children is very important, as is a diagnosis & awareness of one. 

I pray that you will share your story with others even more, as it is inspiring to hear. 

Maybe more people could learn from your family on how to live with AS the *Right* Way. 

Let your Mom & Sister know... that what they have done, is let the hand of God hold & raise you up! 

Blessings to you & your family ~ Rose Pearls. 

  

  

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:24 pm PST

01/17 Extreme Disorders

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Hi I have a son that is now 16 and at age 3 they said he had ADHD and explosive disorder, well about 4 years ago they said no he is bipoler well after seeing the show today when I  saw how Alex is and everything Karen and Rich is and has gone throw it was like looking at my life and my sons life on tv. Can you tell me what test they did on Alex and what meds he is on , or any help you can give me , even Dr. names, we need any help we can get. the meds my son have been on has never helped and i have a list a mile long. Or if any one can give me any info. on this please. My email is sjones7375@aol.com Thank you so much for sharing your story I really know where your coming form and i know how hard it is on you and your son, i wolud love to talk to you or anyone going throw this and thank you dr. Phil for showing this show.
My son was diagnosed PDD at 2 1/2 and then autistic at age 4 and then that changed to Asperger's at age 6. The names really do not mean anything as they are all within the autistic spectrum. At age 8 my son received a dual diagnosis along with the Asperger's of Bi-Polar Disorder.  We treat them very individually with different medications and he is now 9 and doing quite well. Still outbursts and mood swings but controllable. After much research it is not so unusual that those with Asperger's also have Bi-Polar disorder. Bi-Polar disorder is not commonly diagnosed in children and often it can be overlooked in those with Asperger's and they (Parents, Professionals) are looking at some of the symptons as Asperger's tendencies. Just info to keep in mind.
 

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January 17, 2006, 3:27 pm PST

GF/CG Diet?

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I would love to try the GF/CF diet for my son i have read alot about it and the benefits of it however if you are a low income single parent (I recieve nothing from his father) it is not all that easy.  Finding foods like that is one thing affording them is another. I am sure you know how many things contain these.  So to comment on a parent doing their child a diservice if they dont put their child on this diet is like saying we are a bad parent.  I have yet to find an organization that will help defray the cost of the diet I would love to have my son on.  So in theory it sounds great in reality it is not always possible.

What is the GF/cF diet. Where do I find it and read about it.Could you explain if this was helpful and for whom. 

Thanks  Gina 

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:27 pm PST

18 yr old son with aspergers

my 18 yr old son was only diagnosed last year before graduation from high school with aspergers.  his whole life since 5 has been doctor after doctor diagnosing him with ritalin and 10 other medications that followed. teachers complained about his constant noises, wanted other meds.his laziness.  during puberty while still be treated with meds for add and adhd. meds had reverse reactions and made him self destructive and suicidal, but this is a boy who although has flare ups of rage has never tried to harm anyone but himself.  he has no empathy, his social abilities have declined since his 15 yr old suicide watch and hospital stays.    we are just beginning to understand what this is .  he started college this year and failed his 1st semester, lost his tuition from the state disablity agency, so we switch schools , brought, him home.  he thinks hes a failure . 

this is achild that scores high on tests, but anything can trigger distraction, irritation, i can't even put my arm on his shoulder and say i love you.  he gets this horrid look on his face and snaps, dont touch me.  I these last 3 years have been not understood by him about what is happening to him.  he needs help.  we are seeing another doctor tomorrow.  what else can i do to help my son.  you probably have seen him at work , he busses tables, his boss loves him ,so do his coworkers, he might have said hi to you.  you probably think he 's a normal young man. but when it comes to applying himself mentally, verbally.   its brutally becoming worse, what can i do?  

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:28 pm PST

Do we have Aspergers

I have 4 year old twins.  They were adopted at 4 months.  One started having seizures at about 8 months.  The seizures worsened over time and more meds were added.  I decided to try a different doctor who took him off of 3 out of 4 of the meds and he has not had a seizure in almost a year now.  He does present some of the symptoms of Autism, but I didn't have a name for it.  I try to explain this stuff to doctors and they just think I'm trying to get a diagnosis for something that doesn't exist.  I'm not crazy.  He had the rage and can be quite unmanageable with it.  I don't take them to public places, because I get looks like people are thinking he just needs a good spanking.  He throws things and hits people and walls.  He bites, whew does he bite.  He has a deafening squeel.  He only wants to eat cracker and oatmeal pies.  He will eat other things.  He will eat a few bites of something, then want the crackers.  Not just any ole cracker. Has to be pnut butter toasted.  He is healthy and the doctors don't ever say anything about his physical health.  He is small for his age, but he was only 1 lb at birth and he has CP in his legs.  

  

I'm just frustrated because I can't get a diagnosis for what he does.  I've been told he "could" have; autism, fetal alcohol syndrome, touretts amount others, but no diagnosis has ever been made.  His pediatrician wants to lable his Mentally Retarded.  I will not accept this diagnosis, because he is very smart at what he wants to do. 

  

We go to see another doctor in a couple of weeks, that specialized in these types of problems and hopefully I can get something.   

  

Thanks for being here, mommashannon 

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:31 pm PST

Karen Kiki

hi - I wanted to say that I applaud your willingness to go on national TV and tell what goes on in some Aspie homes.  I too have an Asperger's teen - actually 2 of them, a 19 yo girl and a 17 yo boy.  My husband is also Aspie I believe (and what is it Tony Attwood says? Not one wife has misdiagnosed an Aspie husband? <grin> ) 

  

There are days we are constantly at war.  Working outside the home at the moment is impossible.  School issues are daily.  Fears of the future are constant.   

  

While both my Aspie kids are on meds, it's not the end all be all arrangement, as you well know.  It has to do with their will and want, and often times that's the biggest obstacle... getting them to want to change and willing it to happen. 

  

I hope you find a way to take care of yourself and find ways to re-charge.  That's my biggest personal obstacle, is finding ways to recharge when I give so darn much on a daily basis.  

  

Just wanted to let you know that there were "others" out here and we get it!  We know you're not a bad parent.  We know you're at the end of your rope.  We know you'd do anything in your capabilities to move heaven and earth to make things even keeled, much less fixed.   Remember to breathe.  Find your faith.   

  

Know that others care 

  

 

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January 17, 2006, 3:36 pm PST

01/17 Extreme Disorders

Quote From: liatsunami

 I have a strange theory about these types of conditions.  AS, and certain other neurological conditions that are characterized by  well above average intelligence quotients and savant like abilities tend to cause abnormal brain patterns.  The way I figure it works is your brain is like a giant electircal circuit and when it's hyper active in certain sectors it just overloads and causes erratic behavior.   That's the best explaination I can figure.

I felt so bad for your family, it was hard to watch how much Alex seems to hate the way he behaves. It's like he feels guilt and shame for being the way he was born.  I felt so bad that you and your husband suffer so much along with him.  You all definately need help managing Alex's illness. 

I just want you to know that you should NEVER blame yourself for his condition.  You didn't wish it on him, you didn't ask for it.  It just happened, and like most parents you weren't expecting it so you weren't as prepared as you wish you had been.  That's okay.  It isn't too late.  I think you and your husband have done the best you could with the tools you had available.  Other than his behavioral outburts due to his condition your son seemed like a good kid.  So you should pat yourselves on the back for that.

I hope in the future your family will gain insight into Alex's condition and that you'll all find better coping strategies for yourselves and your family.  Good luck in the future :)

Your theory isn't far from what a lot of the researchers are beginning to believe. Many of these disorders are accompanied with enhanced abilities in other areas of funcitoning. From what I understand since these things happen in the brain early on in development they create a differently organized brain. With this change comes enhancements to other areas of the brain. 

  

As one researcher said about dyslexia, "With this different brain comes special abilities. If you change the brain so the person learns normally you loose the special abilities." What is needed is to find a way for people with these differences to contribute within their own abilities.  

  

It's only a disability if we permit it to be. Many people have a lot to offer the world but they are required to do it within such a rigidly confined spectrum called "NORMAL" that they never succeed. By changing this expectation a whole new world could be opened up to them and the rest of the world. 

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:38 pm PST

Parent of an AS child

  

I watched the show alone, and then again I started to watch it with my husband. We wanted more. There wasn't much info about the resources that are available to children with AS. My son was initially diagnosed with ADHD (which is very common) when he was in first grade. And then in 3rd grade, we received the AS dx.  We spent a year in social skills classes, and is currently being followed by a psychiatrist who manages his medication.  

  

Life has been very turbulent, but I must say that right now things are going well. I was very lucky to have a school psychologist who was familiar with AS, many are not. This Dr. met my son in 2nd grade and knew that he had AS. After years of feeling like an unfit mother I found out that I wasn't a bad parent. All the decisions regarding my son's care have been difficult. It wasn't easy to decide to medicate him, but our life was changed for the better once we did.  

  

He has had his violent outburst, but he never wants to hurt anyone. One night he while we sat in the dining room, he through chairs around the kitchen. We let him get it out and once he calmed down we were able to intervene. My daughter went and cleaned up the mess her brother made. When he was in 3rd and 4th grade his teacher thought I complained a lot. One night I taped an outburst. His teacher listened to 3 minutes of it and was in shock. The outburst continued for 20 minutes  In 5th grade, I was 'on call'. I frequently had to go pick him up from school due to emotional outbursts. I was actually relieved because now they were seeing what I was living with.   

  

As I stated previously, things are good now, and the outburst aren't often and usually consist of yelling and crying. OASIS and Tony Attwood have excellent web sites with a lot of good links.  

 
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January 17, 2006, 3:39 pm PST

cf/gf diet & boimed is the key

Quote From: cjhmom4

I would love to try the GF/CF diet for my son i have read alot about it and the benefits of it however if you are a low income single parent (I recieve nothing from his father) it is not all that easy.  Finding foods like that is one thing affording them is another. I am sure you know how many things contain these.  So to comment on a parent doing their child a diservice if they dont put their child on this diet is like saying we are a bad parent.  I have yet to find an organization that will help defray the cost of the diet I would love to have my son on.  So in theory it sounds great in reality it is not always possible.
The cf/gf diet can have dramtic effects on a child and it is not that expensive anymore.  I have been doing the diet and helping others get started and maintain it for over 4 years.  You've got to commit to it 100%, not 99%.  Start at www.autismndi.com and then read Karyn Seroussi's book.  After the diet look into the biomedical treatments (mostly all natural) to correct the biochemical imbalances that most of these kids have.  Find a DAN! doctor or contact the Pfeiffer treatment center.  I have seen it with my own eyes and with dozens of other families....fantastic progress and a loss of many if not all if the autistic symptoms.
 
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