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Does your child rage, scream and kick doors? Is his or her behavior the typical brattiness of a spoiled child, or involuntary behavior beyond the child's control? Dr. Phil sheds light on a pair of widely misunderstood extreme neurological disorders. First, he looks at Asperger's syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism which can cause a person to lack control over his or her emotions, including anger. Rich and Karen's 15-year-old son, Alex, was diagnosed with Asperger's at age 6. His sudden fits of rage and erratic behavior have put a strain on his whole family. Should his parents be afraid of Alex, or is there something they can do to bring his behavior under control? Plus, Craig, 37, can't control his physical tics, nor can he keep from constantly uttering obscenities, literally hundreds of times a day. Craig suffers from Tourette syndrome, an affliction that's gotten so bad, he won't go into grocery stores, movie theatres or any public place for fear he'll be kicked out. What will the disorder mean for his plans to start a family? Talk about the show here.

 

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January 18, 2006, 10:39 am PST

Hang in there!

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My son Jordan was diagnosed with Asperger's a little over a year ago. He will be 11 in April and this is all new to us! I have been struggling with what was different about Jordan since he didn't talk by age two. He finally got help around the age of 3 1/2. But he was always just labeled as student with a disability. I have gone from place to place trying to get a name to what the disability was!! When he entered into school it was a BATTLE every day! Teachers, principles, counselors calling me about my "Bad" child. I was at the point of pulling him out of school and home schooling him. I was so sick of hitting a wall when I tried to get my son help from the professionals and all I got was a run around. FINALLY by a whim I took my son for yet another evaluation where it was finally recognized as Asperger's. This year is the first year Jordan was taken out of public school and put in a school for children with disabilities. Things are going a little better, but Jordan still needs more. And once again I am getting the "dumb" look from everyone about where I can get him help. 

  

Can anyone please help!?! Jordan is about to be a teenager in a few years and this is a new to us. I just want my son to be able to go through life as normal as possible. He is such a loving boy, the sweetest I know. But he keeps getting shoved to the side by the system and I don't want him lost. I just want to get him the help he needs.  

  

It took us 10 years to find out what the disability was, I don't want it to take another 10 years to find the help he needs!! 

  

Thank you for your time!!! 

I know how you feel.  My husband and I spent part of every day at kindergarten with our son and his teacher.  We have fought everyone it seems, even my own family to do what our gut told us was right for our child.  You just have to learn to stand up and be heard when it comes to your child's welfare.   We told him every day how proud we were of him, and that he was smart and capable.  We searched for whatever we could find that sparked his interest, and then did all we could to promote those things, like being involved with animals, and computers, and even doing poetry in front of an audience.   

There is a woman who is a professor at Colorado State University that is autistic, her name is Temple Grandin.  She was a great source of inspiration for me, in finding ways to help Joel.  She has several books published.   

Whatever you do, don't give up.  Ask a million questions, and be an expert on your own child's needs.  Most importantly of all- tell him every day that he is loved and that you wouldn't change him for anything! 

 
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January 18, 2006, 10:47 am PST

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Alex can be the most wonderful young man and very much in control however when his meds don't work, or he oushes the therapy out of his brain, which is not always aware he is doing it, he will have these fits, rages and creates complete disruption in our lives, that includes his own. 

  

Alex is a very smart young man and very talented.  He has so much potential but our fear in life is that one of his rages will bring that all to a halting end. 

  

As any parent wants the best for thier child so do we.  

  

We hope that you will find some answers in our story and that we can continue to email and contact each other.  We are not alone and we and our children deserves answers as well as support to make it one day at a time. 

  

My thoughts are with you as we take this journey in life. 

  

I met someone a few years back who chose not to be my friend.  Her reason was that if we didn't have Special Needs Children we would not have met or had anything in common, and she didn't want our children to link us together.  I feel very sad for her as friends are important in life, and friends who understand and care are invaluable.  I am reaching out to be your friend as we all need support. 

  

Karen 

Karen,  

  

As I watched your story yesterday I felt you were me. Everything you said is what I am going through also. My 12 1/2 year old son, also named Alex, was diagnosed with Asperger's several years ago along with ADHD, OCD, a touch of Tourette's even. My Alex even looks like your Alex! Anyway, my life, like yours, has been completely turned upside down. Everything we do revolves around our son and how he will behave in public. I have two younger daughters who suffer because of their brother's issues. My relationship with my husband is strained to say the least, I am now on antidepressants and I am scared to death. I worry constantly about what my son's life will hold. I worry constantly about how he is doing in school. I dread the phone ringing because I know it  is the school calling about another problem. Alex has been terribly bullied for several years. The school tries to help but they are completely incapable of giving my child what he really needs. Alex has voiced his desire to die before. I worry that he would maybe follow through with this one day. He KNOWS he is different. He KNOWS he has no friends. Unlike some kids with Austism, Asperger's children are completely aware of their differences and their inability to do anything about it.  Sometimes I think that is worse. People are so cruel. The comments made to me about my son are rude, mean spirited and heartless. Because he looks normal they feel they have a right to say something to me. Sometimes I think if he had a visually apparent disability that it would be easier. 

  

I pretty much knew the minute my son was born that things were not right. He had a traumatic birth with fetal distress, cephalopelvic disproportion, muconium aspiration and oxygen deprivation resulting in an emergency c-section. He cried nonstop for years and never slept. We have come a long way in finally getting this diagnosis but I feel such guilt about not doing more faster. I always replay the "what ifs" in my head. It is a terrible way to live. 

  

Alex at 12 has no life except school (which he hates) and his video games. He likes to go to movies but that is about it. He has been on medications since he was 3. Now he is on Adderall (for his hyperactivity), Celexa (anti-depressant) and Clonidine (because he does not sleep). We tried Abilify for 4 days but the sideeffects were so bad and dramatic that we had to discontinue it. What meds is your Alex on? Oh, another question. After Alex has his functioning MRI, what kind of treatment will they do on him? I would love to do this for my Alex but we have an HMO and they are not very supportive about diagnostic studies such as this. I need to know that there is something else I can do to help my son. When I think about the future I get sick to my stomach. I am very scared. Thank you for letting me get this off my chest. I hope to hear from you soon, Val 

  

 
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January 18, 2006, 10:49 am PST

I need help

 Hi. I have a 6 year old son who was diagnosed with aspergers when he was 4 years old. I didn't believe him so I took him to 2 psychiatrists. Both have said he has ADHD and not Aspergers. But His rage is horrible. He has broken 2 of his window panes in his bedroom. He has torn up his bedroom door. He screms obsenities. He throws things and yells and the look on his face is like he's not there. This all happens with the smallest things from frustration with his homework to being put in time out for hitting his sister. He has kicked and punched me. After watching the show yesterday it made me re-think the original diagnosis. He has been having problems at school so we had him tested for learning disabilities and he scored above average or on average on everything except the psychiatrist that tested him made the comment that he lacks social awareness. He doesn't know what to do in simple social aspects..interpreting moods of others. Unaware of what is going on around him. He cannot handle unstructured events. However he can play on the playground...he looks people straight in the face and he is a very loving child. I have read aspergers symptoms and he has some but the main ones I just don't know. I really want one of those brain scans but I live in Florida and cannot go to Colorado or California. Any suggestions?

 
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January 18, 2006, 10:52 am PST

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 Does anyone want to hear about a 37 year old man with this disorder?
 
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January 18, 2006, 10:53 am PST

Jeanne, our sons are SO much alike!

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Thank you for having the courage to go on tv and show the world how wonderful but challenging it can be to have an Aspie.  My son is 11 years old and was diagnosed two years ago.  Elementary school was very hard because his school wouldn't recognize the diagnosis.  Even though we were diagnosed by the leading specialist in the Hudson Valley.  Middle school is a little better.  But now the social aspect of Asperger's Syndrome really comes out. 

  

As I am writing this, Bradley is in his room screaming because he can't perfect the video game he is playing.  You try to reason with him that it is only a game but he gets even more upset and strts calling me names and tells me he hates me.  By the way this episode of Dr. Phil hits me twice because Bradley also has Tourette's.   

  

Bradley is an extremely intelligent child.  As I always tell people he is in the body of an 11 year old, the intelligence of a genius but the mind and emotions of an 8 year old.  Sometimes I don't even know how he deals with the conflict from within. 

  

But at the end of the day when he finally winds down and I sneak in his room to make sure he is asleep.  One look at his face makes me feel like I am the luckiest Mom in the world.  The saying that God only gives these special children to special Moms, is so true, because I feel very special every day that I am his mom. 

  

Thanks again!! 

It's amazing, the similarities.  My son is turning 11 next month.  He is, as is Bradley, very intelligent , but with the emotions of an 8 year old also.  Although he is getting straight A's, he has a fulltime aide with him throughout the day.  We are approaching middle school in September, and I am TERRIFIED!!  But what you said really struck me...we should consider ourselves blessed to have these wonderful, special kids.  When the screaming and name calling and "I hate you's" wind down, my son is such a warm, affectionate, loving kid with many strengths.  If you'd like to discuss things further, please feel free to e-mail me...it's so good to know someone who's walked in your shoes!!!  Best to you and your familly!!!! 

  

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January 18, 2006, 10:54 am PST

Great Info Here About Asperger's!

Thanks to you all for sharing your great info here!   I'm going to follow up on many of the resources mentioned here.   

  

We adopted our son 5 years ago when he was four and a half.  I had about 4 months of "new birth bliss" with my son before educators and doctors started saying his behavior wasn't normal.  Thus began the long journey that I sense Alex's parents have been through.  As I watched the show I kept thinking "We are so alike in what we were feeling" --- particularly as a mom I have felt tremendous frustration and inadequacy over not being able to find all the answers easily --- plus having to fight for every special service in the educational system. 

  

The good news is that I think we too are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.  Two and a half years ago our son was diagnosed with Asperger's and went through what we felt was a "dart throwing" phase where doctors would say "okay, that didn't work, let's try this" with the meds.  We then discovered the Amen Clinic and they did a brain scan and pinpointed the medications exactly.  As we've had to refine meds they've provided additional advice which also proved to be right on target.  We just went back for a follow-up scan and the change is remarkable.  We've also started our son on a homeopathic product called Attend.  The rages have really minimized and we are now having GREAT family times --- actually enjoying each other's company instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop.   Right before Christmas one of his teachers said "I don't know what you are doing but he seems much more "with it" lately."   He's actually starting to try to tell jokes!   

  

Anyway, as a proud mom I could go on but bottom line is this --- we all have to stick together and collaborate on these solutions because it can be a very isolating experience otherwise! 

  

  

 
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January 18, 2006, 10:59 am PST

check with the school district

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There is help for your son!  Please check out any sites you can find on the Gluten Free/Casein Free diet.  specifically, look for Special Diets For Special Kids I & II by Lisa Lewis.  You really will see a difference in your son!  Don't attempt to cut out foods without blood tests and supplementation.  here in Pennsylvania, there is a wonderful doctor named Scott Faber.  He's the Autism Guru!  Phone number is 412-420-2561.  There is a waiting list but PLEASE get Joshua on it.  YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!

When we toook my son to Denver Children's hospital to get a clinical diagnosis of his Aspberger's Disorder and his other learning disabilities, the school district paid for everything.  They even paid our gas and hotel and food expenses while we were there.  It was not offered to us, we had to ask for it to happen. School districts often have money set aside for these types of things, and it is in their best interest that everyone know exactly what is going on with your child to best impliment his education plan. 

Also, in my state of Wyoming, we have kid care insurance for children.  If you fall under a certain generous guidelines for income , and your child is not covered by other insurance, you can get the insurance at no cost to you.  You only pay the office copay.  Check to see if your state might have something similar. 

Go to your public health nurse, and ask for information on any funding possibilities, and healthcare plans they might know about.  If that doesn't help, go to the department of family services, and ask them about government programs that might help you out.   

Remember, you are not asking for a hand out, just for a helping hand in raising your child.  It takes a village! 

 
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January 18, 2006, 10:59 am PST

Brain Scan Results

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What form of treatment was produced from the brain scan?   Hopefully this has happened since the show was taped.  

Nothing happens over night.  We got his Brain Scan Results last Friday and we are waiting to be hooked up with a Medical Team here in the Cleveland, Ohio area.  He will need med changes and to work with a Psychiatrist (not a Psychologist).  He needs to have small meals of carbs daily as well as a Fish Oil supplement which is very expensive as will be the meds. 

  

I have begun therapy myself as I know I need to handle this all better and not allow the neurological disorder push my buttons. 

  

My husband and I working at becoming more of a couple but again this is a long road, and we must devote our lives to it. 

  

With thanks for your concerns. 

  

Karen & Rich and ALEX 

 
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January 18, 2006, 11:02 am PST

Thanks from Alex's MOM

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Thanks to you all for sharing your great info here!   I'm going to follow up on many of the resources mentioned here.   

  

We adopted our son 5 years ago when he was four and a half.  I had about 4 months of "new birth bliss" with my son before educators and doctors started saying his behavior wasn't normal.  Thus began the long journey that I sense Alex's parents have been through.  As I watched the show I kept thinking "We are so alike in what we were feeling" --- particularly as a mom I have felt tremendous frustration and inadequacy over not being able to find all the answers easily --- plus having to fight for every special service in the educational system. 

  

The good news is that I think we too are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.  Two and a half years ago our son was diagnosed with Asperger's and went through what we felt was a "dart throwing" phase where doctors would say "okay, that didn't work, let's try this" with the meds.  We then discovered the Amen Clinic and they did a brain scan and pinpointed the medications exactly.  As we've had to refine meds they've provided additional advice which also proved to be right on target.  We just went back for a follow-up scan and the change is remarkable.  We've also started our son on a homeopathic product called Attend.  The rages have really minimized and we are now having GREAT family times --- actually enjoying each other's company instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop.   Right before Christmas one of his teachers said "I don't know what you are doing but he seems much more "with it" lately."   He's actually starting to try to tell jokes!   

  

Anyway, as a proud mom I could go on but bottom line is this --- we all have to stick together and collaborate on these solutions because it can be a very isolating experience otherwise! 

  

  

A united front is what we need both in our families and together as a Family of ASPIES.  I am so glad to hear of your success and I am looking forward to Alex's new treatments to begin and the success I believe we too will see. 

  

Alex is anxious to get WELL. 

  

Please continue to share on this site and if you want to email us directly please feel free to do so at kikione1@cox.net. 

  

Our prayers are with you. 

  

Karen 

 
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January 18, 2006, 11:05 am PST

Let the Hale's hear from you

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 Does anyone want to hear about a 37 year old man with this disorder?

We want to be there for you too.  I am determined to devote a large portion of my time and life to making life better for AS individuals as well as their families. 

  

We have so much to learn and so much to offer each other.  Keep reading the messages and you will see how much understanding and support is needed. 

  

We are here for you and if you want to contact us at kikione1@cox.net please feel free to but please share your story on this board. 

Karen 

 
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