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Topic : 01/27 Money Disasters

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Dr. Phil's guests are drowning in debt. It's tearing one marriage apart and causing a single mom to think about filing for bankruptcy. First, Deborah says she was raised with wealth and privilege, and she didn't expect to be flat broke and living in a trailer when she married Chris. Chris works 12 hours a day, but they can't even pay their monthly bills. Is Chris not demanding enough from himself, or is Deborah too demanding? Also, find out the secret Deborah's been keeping from her family back in England. Then, Kristine is a school teacher and single mom who  treats her friends to dinner and goes on expensive vacations even though she is over her head in debt -- to the tune of $137,000! Her sister, Stefanie, says she's tired of bailing Kristine out when she can't pay the bills, and thinks it's time for  an intervention. Plus, a financial expert shares her advice for avoiding bankruptcy. Talk about the show here.

 

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January 28, 2006, 8:50 pm PST

thank you from Louisiana

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Dr. Phil: 

  

I think this young couple has more problems that just money.  As I watched them on your show that poor young man was so beaten down from this hateful, spoiled, brat and I watched him try and hold her hand and she pulled away.  She showed no warm emotion towards him at all.  Now maybe it was because you mentioned that someone might see and tell her parents.  Well, if she was not smart enough to figure that out before appearing on your show, well shame on her...  I think this girl needs to pack her bags and use that ticket in her dresser drawer to go back to her parents.  However; she made it sound like they were going to make her go to work as well, which is why she probably is staying here with someone she can still fool by saying she can't work because she's not legal. (HA, LAZY is the correct word) 

  

Don't get me wrong, if that young man can't see that she is lazy and let's her continue on sitting around and getting fat as she said and him work two and three jobs and still get nowhere, I hope you can help them.  He certainly needs some guidance to put him on the right path. 

  

Sincerely, 

dhutch2 in Ohio 

I am so Glad Someone else sees this woman's problem.  If she is not happy with the quality of life that her poor husband has been providing while working his TWO jobs and her NO job then It would probably be best for him that she get her butt on a plane and leave.  Also the issue of hiding her marriage from her parents wasn't because she was scared of her mother but because she was embarrassed of him.  Thank you for seeing past her lies and selfishness. 

  

Sincerely, 

DJ in Louisiana   

 
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January 28, 2006, 9:05 pm PST

Dr. Phil was way TOO EASY on this guy

Who cares about the shopping?  This guy has been abusing this family for years and all he gets from Dr. Phil is a slap on the hand.  How did that happen?  Did you see anything in his facial expressions that made you think he was really sorry?  I didn't.  What he has done will never be forgotten by his wife or kids.  Yes, I've been there and done that and I will never completely recover.  Nor will my children.  We spent 20 years in that environment and the scars will always be there.   

  

The thing I remember most that my therapist talked about was that 'I let it happen.'  I personally couldn't make it stop but I could set the boundaries for what is acceptable and if the unacceptable behavior continues take action.   

  

I've been out of that mess for 8 years now.  I left and he cried.  He says he doesn't remember it being that bad.  He's never really accepted responsibility for it and apologized.   

  

If he creeps into my dreams he never speaks a word.  I have finally shut him up! 

 

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January 28, 2006, 9:17 pm PST

FWIW...

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I'm sure that you have watched the show enough to realize the keyword for most people is "ownership".  When are people going to take ownership for their own short-comings, mistakes, etc.  It is not the fault of the credit card company.  You said yourself that you knew what you were doing at the time, but now that its gotten way out of hand, its no longer your fault?  Please!   

Everyone makes mistakes, it's what helps us grow and learn (if we choose to learn and accept that we are the ones who made the mistake.)   

There are others who have responded and noted that someone was very ill and it wiped them out financially, etc.  That is a completely different story.  Sometimes those things can't be helped.  But for the majority of the bankrupt people in this country...it is simply irresponsibility.   

Take ownership of your life..and quit blaming the world and thinking everyone owes you something. Including the credit card companies..be smart enough to say...no thank you or I don't need that, once in a while.  Good luck hammer44. 

I pay off my credit cards in full each month and I agree with Hammer44 that credit card companies have sleazy, predatory lending practices.  I don't get that she's blaming the credit card companies for her debt.  Frontline did an excellent program on the sleazy, predatory lending practices of credit card companies:   http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/credit/
 
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January 28, 2006, 9:22 pm PST

01/27 Money Disasters

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I am 54 years old, once married, then divorced, and left to struggle financially, so being a single mom, at the age of twenty-four, was financially taxing.  My parents 'struggled finacially', so the 'penny' was always 'pinched' in our household', so my knowledge of finance was based on personal experience.  Obviously, my children have grown, learned a bit of financial planning from 'living with mom'..., however, they too 'struggle financially'!   

While I have FINALLY reached a level where I am financially stable, and can SLEEP AT NIGHT, THIS 'FINANCIAL PEACE OF MIND' was achieved after many years of enduring 'financial hardshipts'!   My POINT:   ALL or MOST of the FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS could have and SHOULD HAVE been avoided had our EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM been 'REQUIRED' to teach 'FINANCIAL PLANNING' in schools. Our society throws our children into the world with 'little' or 'no' Financial Planing,  regarding 'REAL WORLD FINANCE'... and I am NOT speaking of the 'Stock Market'!  Dr. Phil might consider a television program based on what WE as a NATION might do, to get Our Legislation to UPDATE the EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS to include REAL WORLD FINANCIAL PLANNING... KNOWLEDGE is ESSENCIAL for our children to have a 'head start on LIFE'... FINANCIAL STABILITY IS ONE OF THE KEYS TO SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIPS... 

It's not society that throws our children out into the world, we the parents do.  Dr. Phil says we are raising little adults.  We as parents are the ones that need to prepare our children better for the financial world that we are already aware of.  My fiance and I both have debt we are trying to pay off while raising a 3 year old.  I work both full and part-time to make sure we have what we need.  My daughter wants everything she sees on tv and at the store.  She gets things sometimes, but NOT always.  She will get upset when she doesn't get something and I tell her that I don't have the money to pay for it.  It's hard to teach children about saving money and managing it when their parents aren't doing such a good job of it themselves.  As our daughter gets older our debt will be less and we will be better equipped to teach her about the value of money so she won't make the same mistakes we made.   

  

Some financial hardships are created by the individuals who make the decisions on how to spend their money.  As adults we should be making better and smarter decision on our money and not foolish ones that get us into debt and problems.  I don't expect the schools to teach this to my child, I expect to teach this to my daughter and hope that when she is an adult she will make responsible financial decisons. 

 
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January 29, 2006, 6:37 am PST

Be thankful!

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I went in to get the free budget book and found out that I had to put in a credit card number.  What a deal.  I didn't want to add that to my credit card and what about some who don't have a card and don't want to start.  I would like to see what the book says but I don't consider it FREE when asked to pay for shipping.  Just look how much money is being spent on postage? 

marrich61 

   You must not know much about business! First the material is FREE! (I just wonder how much that cost!!!!) However it does cost extra for someone to handling the product (ie: package it, the cost of packing material and then the postage) I think you are very ungrateful --- you should be thankful for such a great offer.
 
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January 29, 2006, 7:25 am PST

Oh woe is me..

 i believe this woman ( Deborah) to be spoiled, petulant, and for the most part annoying, to sit there, and say the things she did about her husband is so wrong, she needs to go back to her marriage vows and refresh her memory, i believe their financial woes are an excuse for her to go back to her Mommy and Daddy, obviously they created the issue to begin with by giving in to all her childhood "Gimme's" as in gimme this, gimme that, they taught their daughter NOTHING! as far as earning her own money, even though she claims she's unable to work here in the U.S. there are ways she could earn money, i take surveys online myself and have received checks, it may not be alot but its more than what she herself is CONTRIBUTING to the financial aspect of her marriage, if she's sitting around at home getting fat (her quote, not mine) thats her fault too, the roads are free, she could walk daily, and exercise in and outside the home, her excuses are lame, and i feel bad for the husband, its obvious he loves her, sorry to say i can't say the same for her!
 
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January 29, 2006, 7:55 am PST

You can fix it

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I just wrote a super long email to Dr. Phil on this very subject.....I can't wait to see the show on Friday....What I would love to know is how in the hell, can credit card companies get away with raising your rates (I could care less that their reply would be..."It's in the agreement")  to astronomical rates (29%)  across the board because you were late with one payment, and are getting close to max on your credit limit....I knew what I was doing at the time, and could afford it.  What I didn't expect, and I know, it's my fault....to a point, is that they would raise my rates to nearly 30%....It's like they want me to file Bankruptcy.... 

  

I have had $80,000 in credit card debt for almost 4 years, paying $1,800.  a month in interest and getting nowhere on the principal....I simply can't pay anymore, and even when I have paid the debt down, they lower my credit limit, keeping me in a situation where my credit limit is almost 100% maxed....They're crooks, scum, and something needs to be done about them.   

  

Man I can't wait to see this show on Friday......Hammer44 

  

I have been there.  Now I have all my credit cards paid off, and my house and car. First if you haven't already stop charging pay cash for everything. Next talk to your credit card companies, some will actually work with you on lowering the interest rates and helping set up a payment plan.  If not find one that will and close the old accounts. I actually applied for new cards while I was paying things down and got that introductory 0% rate for 6 months.  At the end of the 6 months I switched everything to a new card with a 0% rate.  I opened and closed about 3 cards while I paid down my cards and then I just quit charging.  Paying it down while your in the hole is hard but now that I have them paid off, it's easy not to do it again.  I am not some wealthy brat either I work as a CNA it a hospital( that is barely a step up from Fast food).  I go to college full time, and yes I do know several differant things to do with mac N cheese and ramon noodles.  But four years ago I was I had over $11,000 in debt wich is alot considering last year I only made $13,000 I figure I must have done something right.  If the credit card company your with is not working with you then leave them, there are some good companies out there that will I was 18 when I charged a $5,000 christmas to a creditcard(like I had any clue). I will never do that again. I know my debt sounds minor to you but remeber you said that you were paying $1,800 a month I don't even make that in a month. Oh and there are places that pay like $200 a month for donating plasma you can make money and save lives at the same time and You can more than just mac n cheese too.  Give up on credit cards when you get them paid off and by all means don't charge another stick of gum. 
 
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January 29, 2006, 8:03 am PST

Quite Agree with You

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 i believe this woman ( Deborah) to be spoiled, petulant, and for the most part annoying, to sit there, and say the things she did about her husband is so wrong, she needs to go back to her marriage vows and refresh her memory, i believe their financial woes are an excuse for her to go back to her Mommy and Daddy, obviously they created the issue to begin with by giving in to all her childhood "Gimme's" as in gimme this, gimme that, they taught their daughter NOTHING! as far as earning her own money, even though she claims she's unable to work here in the U.S. there are ways she could earn money, i take surveys online myself and have received checks, it may not be alot but its more than what she herself is CONTRIBUTING to the financial aspect of her marriage, if she's sitting around at home getting fat (her quote, not mine) thats her fault too, the roads are free, she could walk daily, and exercise in and outside the home, her excuses are lame, and i feel bad for the husband, its obvious he loves her, sorry to say i can't say the same for her!
I did not believe that woman (Deborah) did in fact come from such a "well to do" family - Don't know where she got the idea she was so "marvellous" and I think her poor husband would be better off to put her on the plane and find a sweet and humble American girl.
 
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January 29, 2006, 8:07 am PST

not up to the goverment

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I am 54 years old, once married, then divorced, and left to struggle financially, so being a single mom, at the age of twenty-four, was financially taxing.  My parents 'struggled finacially', so the 'penny' was always 'pinched' in our household', so my knowledge of finance was based on personal experience.  Obviously, my children have grown, learned a bit of financial planning from 'living with mom'..., however, they too 'struggle financially'!   

While I have FINALLY reached a level where I am financially stable, and can SLEEP AT NIGHT, THIS 'FINANCIAL PEACE OF MIND' was achieved after many years of enduring 'financial hardshipts'!   My POINT:   ALL or MOST of the FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS could have and SHOULD HAVE been avoided had our EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM been 'REQUIRED' to teach 'FINANCIAL PLANNING' in schools. Our society throws our children into the world with 'little' or 'no' Financial Planing,  regarding 'REAL WORLD FINANCE'... and I am NOT speaking of the 'Stock Market'!  Dr. Phil might consider a television program based on what WE as a NATION might do, to get Our Legislation to UPDATE the EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS to include REAL WORLD FINANCIAL PLANNING... KNOWLEDGE is ESSENCIAL for our children to have a 'head start on LIFE'... FINANCIAL STABILITY IS ONE OF THE KEYS TO SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIPS... 

It is not up to the goverment!  Lets see I suppose your for sex ed too.  The schools should not have to teach our children that is our job.  I learned about money from my parents and thank you I am doing great finacially. I am 27 and own my house and yes it is paid off, I own 2 cars and yes they are paid off. And NO I am not some rich kid with my parents handing me this stuff my dad was a construction worker before he had a stroke and now he lives in a nursing home, my mom works at walmart she was a cashier when I was in highschool and now she is a department manager.  I have worked full time and went to college I am trying to get into grad school right now and I joined the army national guard in 1997 to pay for college because my mom couldn't afford to help me.  My parents taught me to work hard for what you want and you can have it.  Schools shouldn't have to be involved in everything, parents should teach children about responsibility, morals and all that good stuff. And if you want to be honest the schools teach finacial responsibility in the 1st grade.       1-1=0 what more do you need to know.
 
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January 29, 2006, 8:17 am PST

I agree

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I am so Glad Someone else sees this woman's problem.  If she is not happy with the quality of life that her poor husband has been providing while working his TWO jobs and her NO job then It would probably be best for him that she get her butt on a plane and leave.  Also the issue of hiding her marriage from her parents wasn't because she was scared of her mother but because she was embarrassed of him.  Thank you for seeing past her lies and selfishness. 

  

Sincerely, 

DJ in Louisiana   

There is a country song about all that an old man who let his ungratefull children nickle and dime him and in his will he left his wealth to the poor man at the bottom of the hill that was always there to help when he needed it.  She grew up spoiled rotten and now that is all she knows.  Forget her leaving him, he is boviously not getting what he needs in this relationship he should leave her and find him a good woman who will take care of him. 

 
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