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Topic : 06/21 "Throw It Out!"

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(Original Air Date: 02/01/06) Do you know someone who can't seem to get rid of their clutter? They keep newspapers, magazines, old clothes, and just plain junk thinking it will come in handy one day. Dr. Phil talks to extreme hoarders, who are embarrassing their families and destroying their homes. Nancy says her husband, John, is a packrat who turned their beautiful four-bedroom home into what she calls "the black hole." The house became so overcrowded with junk that they were forced to live in a trailer, and now the trailer is nearly filled to the brim! Will John and Nancy ever be able to live in their house again? And how is John's hoarding affecting their three children? Then, Misty saves every piece of paper her kids write on, and every article of clothing they've ever worn. Her husband, Greg, can't understand why she can't just toss them out. What's behind her inability to throw things away? Share your stories, join the discussion.

 

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June 21, 2006, 5:39 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. "It Out Throw" is a good thing and make way for new junk aswell.  I like the way you----- 

gave advice to your guest about junk and what to do about it. I think your guest shur throw it out------ 

and keep the rest incast the guest  want to keep the rest of the junk aswell.  See you  tomorrow----- 

Afternoon. Well I had better close now. Sincerley. Your. Russell



 
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June 21, 2006, 6:14 pm PDT

HELPING A FRIEND

I HAVE A FRIEND THAT I HAVE FOR 38YRS AND IN THE PAST 10-15YRS, CLUTTERING HAS BECOME A FULL TIME PROBLEM. SHE KNOWS THAT IT IS A PROBLEM AND I HAVE OFFERED TO HELP---BUT WE ARE GETTING NOWHERE. I GUESS NEITHER OF US ARE MAKING THE 1ST MOVE. I KNOW SHE WOULD BE A MUCH HAPPIER PERSON WITH A CLEAN HOUSE.  

ANY CONSTRUCTIVE ADVISE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.  

THANKS  

 
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June 21, 2006, 6:18 pm PDT

Creative Clutter p.s.

Wow!  Thank you for this program.  The show ended two hours ago, and now that I know how loss can effect this change, I have also been changed.  There is light at the end of the tunnel.  Four boxes designated for flynet and two bags of trash later, I can now hang up all my daughters' party dresses in the closet!  

   

Dr. Phil, you're a peach!  

 
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June 21, 2006, 6:22 pm PDT

My mother's hoarding causes a lot of stress for our family

In my mother's case hoarding is a mental illness.  I think it is a form of OCD and she also has been clinically depressed most of her life.  She always has hung onto stuff as long as I can remember but when I was five or six our house looked "normal."  As the years went by I found myself picking up, straightening, stuffing things into drawers before my friends would come over.  It was very embarrassing.  But boy did things change once we were out of the house.  It's hard for me to understand and be empathetic as it angers me, what our family has suffered because of her illness.  It is behavior that is not easily changed.  She does choose (is it a choice?) to keep the junk rather than be with her family, which is heartbreaking.  I have been in my parent's home only about three times in the last 13 years.  All holiday meals are hosted by me of course, which is aggravating because I feel taken advantage of.  My 8-year-old son has been inside their house twice, once while in an infant seat, and once recently, only as far at the kitchen.  There is no presentable area in the entire house, the outside is cluttered, the yard is a mess, and the storage buildings are FULL.  My dad is frustrated but doesn't know what to do.  Counseling has not brought about change.  We had an intervention and that was not very successfull.  Shortly after that I spent an afternoon trying to help her purge, and she agreed to let me take some magazines to the recycling center-and then was furious at me the next day for doing that.  I've stepped back and find comfort only in that the day my parents are no longer living, I will find great pleasure in throwing all the crap away.  My mother must be the one to make changes and if we keep trying to force it, we are the only ones getting hurt and frustrated.  She says she doesn't like living this way, and agrees she has the illness, but yet we have stalled.  

 
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June 21, 2006, 6:38 pm PDT

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I am extremely frustrated with my daughter.  She is 44 years old, and as long as I can remember I have had a problem with her taking responsibility for herself.  She is currently unemployed, she lives in a house that is cluttered and filthy.  She has diabetes and doesn't keep it under control. She is a shopaholic and every penny she gets, she spends on inappropriate things.  She refuses to acknowledge that she has a problem, and will not even consider seeing a psychologist even though I offered to pay for one.  She is not a "willing spirit".  I was at her house recently to clean because I couldn't stand it anymore.  She did not lift a finger to help me.  In fact she was upset with me for wanting to throw anything out.  I am so completely frustrated with her that I am tempted to cut off all contact with her.   However, if I do that, she will be completely alone.  She has no friends,(can't invite anyone in).  Will anything work with this kind of person?  Should I tell her that she is no longer welcome at family gatherings until she gets some help? 
 

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June 21, 2006, 6:43 pm PDT

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I was watching today’s episode in hope of some advice for dealing with my mothers hoarding problem but was somewhat disappointed.  Misty’s situation looked cute compared to my mothers although it was not as traumatic as John’s.  But my grandmother is 95 and our family dog only has a few years left in him so I strongly believe that she will follow the path of John in several years. What I was disappointed in was that both cases involved subjects who were willing to change their lifestyles for their family.  What is one to do if they do not want to change when confronted?  I confronted her both compassionately and angrily but with no avail.  I even suggested having a third party mediate but she is just too stubborn.  

   

What makes the situation so much worst is that her hoarding of possessions had extended into individuals.  My brother is a college drop out still living with his parents who has literally locked himself in his room for five years in front of the computer watching TV and playing video games.  No friends, no job, just sit around in his room all day.  My father has tried almost everything to try to motivate him but my mother undermines all of his efforts by lying for him and giving him a monthly allowance even at 27.  She simply enjoys his company and will not alter the status quo.  I try to convince her that it is an unhealthy lifestyle for him but she thinks that there is no problem.  

   

On top of my family’s problem, my father is currently fighting malignant cancer.    

He is fighting for his life and he is banished to a small corner of the house that is cluttered with my mother’s possessions.  She recently brought back a truck load of furniture and “stuff” even though it drives him raging mad.  I just feel so frustrated and disgusted with my mother’s problem that we are no longer on speaking terms.    

   

I try to confront the problem to make our family stronger but my mother and brother do not see a problem.  My father also has found some sort of peace with his current situation, possibly distracted by the cancer, and does not believe anything will come about with my efforts.  He had come to the conclusion she will never change after being married to her for over 30 years.  So am I just being the ungrateful son that my mother thinks I am?    Even with traumatic events in the horizon that will surely push her over the edge should I ignore the problems?  Is there even a problem? I am so confused I don’t even know if my family is abnormal.  As Dr. Phil says there is no “normal “ …  

   

   

   

 I personally feel Dr Phil opened My eyes  today ....seeing both those  houses   

   

 i never thought of my self as a horder ,yet i can not for the life of me throw out my kids things  let me say this   

  last yr my mother died from  a medical misshap and being oldest of her children i had the untimly task of taking care of her  final resting and im still in thrawls of things   

as estate has not closed   

LET ME TELL YOU ALL   

upon entering her HOMEafter her funeral    

 i walked into her room at the house  i stood stunned as i had never gone into  her bed room in years.  it was her sanctuary or so i felt.  she was after all my mother and biblically it says" honor thy mother& father"  

  she  didnt want  any of her daughters to go thru her things   

   when i entered  she was dead i stood in complete shock...seeing boxes floor to ceiling was  too much for me alone   

i had two of my 4  siblings help me empty the house to sell it,  the back yard and garage was worst   

when i found my KINDERGARDEN papers i wanted to cry. but i couldnt.i am the oldest and im to be strong. when i watched Dr Phils show today i relalized  im in that emotional state of mind   

   

 a lot of my mother  stuff ended at my house and my kids and my husband gave my sisters a dead line to  get it out of here.. fought them my family and  im sitting in my dinning room with two dinning tables  mine  im at and my mothers aginst the wall   

   

the HAPPIEST times in my life  were at the dinning table  and i cant let it go  

   

  as to kids clothing  i have made a pile to do a donation and  i see what i did  when things didnt go right in my life and now with this show i understand why   

   

MY question to DR phil......... you had a weight loss group  WHY NOT MAKE A GROUP FOR THIS  TOPIC...WE COULD USE  A TIME TO UNDERSTAND EMOTIONAL LOSE EFFECTS ON THE BEHAVIOR   NOW THAT YOU,VE OPEND PANDORAS BOX  PLEASE KEEP THIS TOPIC  OPEN  

   

with your weight loss group you got golds gyms involved  im sure with your vast conections and that of opra,s you could find a group or make one  for  those of us caught up with emotions with THINGS   

i cant say i keep trash I do want to keep memorys..they are comforting when im low to know they are around  WHAT DID ROBIN DO WHEN SHE LOST HER MOTHER?  

i realize its   an   SOME WOULD CALL adiction  hording   

gosh my mohter kept strawberry baskets thinking one of her grand kids might need them for crafts   

   

  i am trying my best to be the BIG SISTER  and  sharing the things i found at my mothers home  only   now its consumming my house as well    

PLEASE  KEEP TALKING TO THESES  PEOPLE- LET US YOUR TELIVISION AUDIANCE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE NOW?  

 IF THEY UN-CLUTTERED.............. SO WE CAN LEARN WHAT TO DO?  

   

please direct us the  lost  who find  emotional comfort in the things of good memorys   as to the lady with all her daughters baby cloths  i know her feelings  i loved  how cute my daughter was  way back when JUST HOLDING HER BABY CLOTHS I FEEL THOSE HAPPY TIMES....   i have to let go  

 i AM TRYING. i know it  

  i just wonder why  do  THINGS replace affection?????  

   YOU LEFT ME WITH MORE QUESTIONS  

   

care4all   

 
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June 21, 2006, 7:06 pm PDT

I'm not a hoarder!!! Am I??

 I watched the show today and my first reaction was, oh this will be interesting to learn about these strange people. What I learned is that there are all different levels of hoarding and I think I might have a form of this.I have always lived in clutter, because I was used to it, my mother was a hoarder, not to mention we had 45 cats and 15 dogs.... yes at one time. My mother hoarded animals too, is that's possible. Needless to say, our house was horrible. I would sometimes sleep in my car when I was a teenager, because the house was so bad. It was so bad that our neighbors would call the health department on us on a regular basis.
  I swore to myself that once I moved out of my moms house, that I would never live like that again. And I have kept part of my promise to myself. I only have 3 little dog, and one cat, and they are manageable. But my house is cluttered and unorganized. It's like when they were handing out the organized gene in heaven, I was somewhere else. There are clothes everywhere, papers, mail, dog hair, books... you name it.
  I am not the typical hoarder that cant throw things out. I like to throw things out. But only some things. I dream of being Martha Stewart's younger sister. I want to change, but I am overwhelmed. I learned today that it is a control issue. I would'nt dream of having anyone help me clean my house. If I hired a maid, I would have to clean first!  The show helped me to know that there is help out there for me!
 
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June 21, 2006, 7:09 pm PDT

At least I am not alone.

I am totally embarrassed over the condition of my house and will do anything to keep people away.  

   

When I first got married almost 13 years ago I kept our home clean for the most part.  My mother was a 'packrat' and so is my husband's.  Well after watching the show it made me think, things really got out of control after my Mom passed away five years ago.  Now, it's a disaster.  I really need to do something with it, as I can tell it's hurting my children.  At least I know it's something other than just being 'lazy' as I have been told.  I do try to throw things out, but it never fails someone needs me or something comes up and I have to put it off.  I am honestly tired of living like this and I am hoping todays show will be the kick in the butt I need.    

 
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June 21, 2006, 7:27 pm PDT

06/21 "Throw It Out!"

My mom and my older sister both have trouble parting with old things. I realize that my mom got it from her mother as a child. Godbless my grandmother she was the sweetest person. She would never let any of her kids get rid of anything. They had to go in her house when she would have to go stay at the hospital. She would be upset, but at least she had a clean space to come home to. I try not to put pressure on my mom to get rid of her things. We love to watch while you were out and home makeover shows. I will make little comments. I have learn to be patient and if keeping everything she has own makes her happy than I am satisfied. But on the other hand I will hope that she would not let it get out of control to where we could not live in the house because of clutter. 

 
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June 21, 2006, 7:45 pm PDT

Your 11 year old sounds like my 12 year old

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Dr. Phil, my daughter is 11 years old and has trouble throwing things out.  She likes to collect everything she can get her hands on, even stuff we throw out in the waste basket.  She says she is really sad when she has to get rid of something.  Sometimes she even mourns over it.  She will recall specifically when we get rid of some of the things three or more years ago.  When she is reminded of it she starts crying.  Could she be like Misty?  Should we be concerned about this? 

Jean 

Jean, My son has the same problems.  Pulling stuff out of the trash, like dried up markers, etc...Holding on to candy wrappers.  It's to the point that we covertly get rid of stuff.  If he sees a cardboard box in the trash at the curb he will scream and run and pull it out and be very upset with us.  I tried to get rid of patio furniture and that made him cry. He is obsessed with pollution and recycling. We recently had a couple of trees chopped down in the backyard and it was very traumatic for him as he associated these trees with his "childhood".  This event was very stressful for him.  I think life for him is chaotic and he tries to control his surroundings by going overboard.  Change and transitions have always been a problem for him.  He has at times obsessive thought patterns too.  He has told us that sometimes at night he can't shut off some of the more darker thoughts at night, that's why he likes to sleep with some light on,    I think it's a brain chemistry problem and we have tried him on different medications and haven't really found one that fits him. Come to think of it , he doesn't flush the toilet unless I remind him, I wonder if this is part of the inability to let go , I know that seems silly but he is 12 and should be thinking of doing this himself or maybe that's just a boy thing. : ) My son has a lot of other issues mentally going on.  Does your daughter?
 
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