Topic : 06/26 Twisted Love

 I rest my case about venomous women.............. and she even references the Bible??? 

See her profile before she changes it! 

Where is the forgiveness???  ....Come on..!!!

Just having fun this time.....LOLROTF


Bye

Charles (on the show)

I just watched the show and realize it is a rerun but I couldn't resist posting my reaction to this situation, at least my reaction to what the situation was at the time the show was aired. Is this guy for real?? I don't buy this alpha male crap either, I really believe he had to validate himself as a male, as a lover, as being desirable, etc...he was outright bragging about how he was able to "satisfy" the two women for 3 months and he is so superficial, mentioning numerous times how "gorgeous" the other woman is, like that could be so understandable as to why he would be interested in her. Yes, giving birth to and raising 4 children and apparently putting up with the likes of Charles for 20 years and God knows what else, will take its toll on a woman, not to imply that his wife by any means is unattractive. He mentions that the other woman has "time" for him unlike his wife: did he ever think to get off his lazy a** and free up some of his wife's time by helping her and making her life easier instead of finding some "gorgeous" woman to amuse him? Charles, move in with her, knock her up a few times and when she is too busy washing your clothes, feeding and raising your babies we'll see how much time she has for you and how utterly attractive she remains.  

Also, did anyone notice how the whole show was about him, why HE didn't feel remorse, why HE this and that, etc...? And how he continuously talked about the other woman like his wife wasn't even there, mentioning her apparent beauty, how attracted he was to her, how she had awakened his senses, how he loved her, blah blah blah? He has no respect, not an iota, for his wife, for women in general, nor for his children, who will one day see how shallow and conceited and arrogant their father really is and let's just hope that they learned their values from their mom who apparently isand has been the main influence in their lives.  

What a first class jerk, alpha jerk no less! How come jerks don't know they're jerks? I would NEVER find this man attractive in any way, he exudes patheticism, for lack of a better word. I think he and the "gorgeous" woman deserve each other and should ride off into the sunset together, one more pitiful than the other. I wonder if he was able to watch the show later from an objective point of view and realize how ludicrous he was? Is that posting really from him?
As for his wife, I hope she has since awaken from her hurt and moved on to realize she is worth so much more than this creep has led her to believe. Poly-fidelity, ha! What a joke! Maybe he should move out of America and go where poly-fidelity is accepted. Which on a last note, how would he like it if his wife took an interest in having another man and maybe have him meet Charles and get along and car pool and take turns in bed with HER? She has to much class for that from what I saw but that would have been poetic! I though Dr. Phil might have spent more time exploring this angle, turning the tables on Chuck but he only gave it a passing mention.
Uggh, I have such a bad taste in my mouth having seen this guy, yuck!  

Yes, I must be a "vemonous" women to have such feelings and thoughts about poor, misunderstood Charles. 

I have the utmost respect for Tracy and quite a bit of respect for Charles (just not as much) for even going on Dr. Phil and discussing their problem and his stupidity.  I couldn't have done it.   

When my husband cheated on me I thought that I would lose my mind.  I couldn't believe that it was happening to me.  It happened (more than once) with my ex-husband and my husband knew what effect that had on me, and now he was doing it?  I felt like my world was coming down.  I tell you what, it ended that night.  I acted so unlady like and very unlike myself that afterwards I was a little (very little) ashamed.  I wanted my husband to feel the kind of pain that he caused me and he did just in a different way.    

And as far as meeting with "her", I could never have done that because I would be writing this from jail.  This "other woman" knew that my husband was married and that we had a family and a life together (I spoke with her briefly on the phone to find out what she knew) so I held her accountable too, just not as much as my husband.  I also found out that this was a game to her.  She routinely messed with other womens' husbands.  So I said what I had to say to her and let her know what would happen if she even looked in his direction again.  So knowing that your husband is still messing around and you still stand by his side and are willing to work it out... my hat goes off to Tracy.    

The good part about my husband's stupidity is that it really opened the door of communication between us and made us both realize what we had and have together.  We have a better marriage now than we ever did, not that I recommend this to couples.  I can say that with a lot of hard work, communication, forgivness and prayer, marriages can survive this if both parties are really willing.  I hope Charles and Tracy can work this out.  I really hope that he is past his stupid stage and realizes what a great wife he has.  

   

 Phil do a Follow up show and after you have private eyes catch him with the other woman again.
Run Tracy Run

I want to tell you I believe if you are good friends it is your responsibility to make sure your friend doesn't do the WRONG thing.  If he is unhapy and wants out then help him to make sure he has tried everything to make the marriage work. If then and only then he wants out, help him do it in a way that it will be the less destructive for the wife and family. My husband had a friend that led him to other women, told him what he was doing (cheating) was okay, and never encouraged trying to work it out, or to do the right thing, be a man and end the marriage in the best way for all of us. If you feel the friendship is too "close:" and that he really may be interested in you in a different way, you must close the door, let him face his life and the choices and after he has done that and STOOD on his own two feet then you could enter his life again if you choose. GOOOD for you in seeing the problem and stepping up to the plate not to create a bad situation. The world needs more people to do that.

Your are probably right Charles.  Most of the women are responding are or have been "duped".  To believe, love and support a man that when tested, will "jump ship" to "gratify"  his/her own feelings.  My husband left 3 months ago after 20 years of marriage.  He left me and our children to go "see" if there was anything there was to pursue with another woman.  The pain and humiliation - deception - you will never feel.  Your wife would never do that to you.  I can certainly understand you were looking for something knew/different... but that is the time to turn to your spouse and ask for more.  You never know, you may have not been fulfilling her needs as well.  I don't understand duplicity...I don't understand anyone thinking that there are just that wonderful that all should share them.  What hurts most of all, is the betrayal.  In your situation, you had the sense and the spirit of familial bond, to do the right thing for your family.  My husband, is still "trying" to make it work with someone else while asking me to hold on and wait.  I would not do what he did to me and I don't think I will wait for him to "figure it out".  My convictions and beliefs are clear.  I will not let allow anyone to make me believe that I - alone- is not good enough to last the test of time.  God Bless you and your family.  I applaud you for being a real man and doing what was right for your family. 

 Well, Charles reminded me EXACTLY of my horrible ex-boyfriend.  He showed the same arrogance,  and spouted the same BS that my ex was so famous for.  I'm sure his wife is still with him because he has a way of saying things to her.  He is a master of manipulation, and she buys into it--and why not?  She's married to him!  And it is amazing how we want to be with the person we love, even though they are poison.  Charles was interested in maintaining a relationship with 2 women and have them be ok with it.  He saw nothing wrong with it.  Neither would my ex- which is exactly why he is my ex.  But it took me 4 years to come to the realization.  Charles says he needed a change.  I can think of several ways of changing that don't involve sex!  This particular episode really hit me at home because for those 4 horrible years, I did nothing but wonder when my guy was going to call me, and when he wasn't around- who was he with.  He was a musician- a rock star wannabe--and felt he needed to act as one.  And- he thought I should support him in that.  Charles needs to get  a grip on reality, and realize this life is not just about him.  He gave that up when he got married, and again when he had children.  Selfish, arrogant, and just plain bad news!

 Thanks for you support and kind words...................

Been stirring things up abit today...... but it is all in good fun.......

We are really  focused and still have a ways to go, we still have our moments...peticularly when we are introduced to someone with the same name as the OW.

I was intoxicated with confusion and arrogance when we appeared on the show ....its really different now...... we learned so much ....it was a wake up call.

But, time is on our side .....

My husband cheated on me after 24 years of marriage.  Our youngest was 18.  I would not let him in the house.   He slept at his office.  He could not understand my attitude.  I then loaded up a U-Haul and took half of everything.  THE BEST HALF.  I moved to another state and rented an apartment with the help of my parents.  I looked for a job.  I told hims I would not be back until he got his head out of his @@@!   He moved back into an empty house, so to speak.  I even took the cookware.  Turned him around REAL FAST.  I only came back on two conditions we went to counceling and he got rid of his "Friend" .  He could not have a girlfriend and a wife at the same time.  It took a while for the trust again, but both of us have never forgotten.  That was 4 years ago and we are doing  better.  (P.S.  I keep his penis in a canning jar on top of the refrigerator now). 

  

I wish Charlie and Tracey luck.  Hope your counceling is working. 

  

By the way  his "Friend" is now divorced from an Open Marriage and is pretty much a  WH@@@@@. 

 You know you will  cheat again you have made a habit of it . its if but when.