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Created on : Friday, January 27, 2006, 02:41:03 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/02/06) Charles says he has exhausted his relationship with his wife of 19 years, and he's ready to try an alternative lifestyle. Instead of getting a divorce, Charles wants to explore polyfidelity -- a relationship where he is shared between his wife and his mistress. The mistress says she'll give it a try, but his wife, Tracy, says the thought makes her sick. Can Charles convince his wife to share him for the sake of their marriage? And what does Dr. Phil think? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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June 26, 2006, 3:42 pm PDT

Pathological liar!

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                        From Charles on the show

Like I said in earlier posts (in March) ...(as a matter of fact you can query all my post's)....

Most of the women who were dumped or jilted are the ones posting venom....... and here is your chance to take it out on a guy you saw on TV.......... Go ahead  throw your best venom on the posts.......


This fact remains ...We are a family and We are Very Happy now........

Charles

Charles, you are nothing if not a pathological liar.  

   

I've just seen another segment of the show wherein "the other woman" has spoken and exposed you in at least 2, maybe 3 lies.  Tracy then turned to you at the break and began to run them down for you.  Your face had already reddened a bit because you knew you had been exposed and you just did your best to keep looking sanctimonious as hell and purse your lips and nod your head too much.    

   

Dr. Phil hasn't even BEGUN to punch your ticket...........arrogant and selfish................hasn't even BEGUN.  

   

Yippy, next break.....and Dr. Phil has just described for us how it's gonna be....(holding up what COULD BE A RAT BY THE TAIL)...."You realized, 'oh, yeah, I GOT HIM BACK'"....like YUCK, "you sonofabitch!"  Well, Tracy....I believe in forgiveness but I also don't think a leopard changes his spots too much............and I would throw THAT sewer rat right down the sewage drain where THAT ONE belongs because Charles is just going to do you so dirty down the road again.  I can smell this one coming.  It isn't going to be pretty AT ALL.  He is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.    

   

Here he goes again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Next segment.............."Maybe I was just like a kid in a candy store trying to feed my insatiable need for sweets."  He wants to move out and "find out" why he did this to his innocent wife (after blaming America first for "victimizing others" for not being a polycheating,  I mean polyfidelity society...........this guy is a JERK!  He just wants AN APARMENT TO HUCK HIS GIRLFRIEND IN, PEOPLE.  I'm done with this man.  Like I said......................................I hate him.  

   

Charles (to your face)..............you need more help than Dr. Phil can give you.  THAT's how bad it is.  

 
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June 26, 2006, 3:45 pm PDT

21 Years

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Well, the first thing you need to do is ask your self why you want to be with a self centerd guy who has no respect and committment to you, go get some good counseling for your self, for a good counselor will help you feel good about YOU and you will begin to love and accept your self.............You deserve to be loved and respected but you are allowing this guy to damage you and thatis a choice, remember, we teach people how to treat us and until YOU make a stop to it, it will continue and it will get worse.....No, it will not be easy but if you want to be happy then you need to step up to the plate and help yourself. I have seen several of my friends go through this crap and I see how it changes a person for the worse, while they are at home miserable wishing for their partner (so called) to love them and long to be with them, the partner is out having a good ole time, do you think this guy is sitting around crying and feeling sorry for himself? I highly doubt it, so why is he worth this to you/..............I have one particular friend who did everything in her power to save her marriage but in the end they ended up getting a divorce, and within months of attending a divorce recovery group, she met a guy and they became friends, shared ine anothers experiences and eventually they started dating and now they are married and as much as I loved her ex as he too was a good friend as well to my hubby and me, I am so glad that he is out of her life, makes me sad to think this of my friend, but he made her life miserable and now when I see her, she glows, she's active in church and involved in life itself, and her boys, the oldest just graduating from high school did a complete turn around in attitude and life style and it was a good change, teh negative energy in the home made life miserable for them too but now, they are a happy family and life is good....You deserve this as well, get your self some help and begin the healing processs, not easy but will be worth it if you put your whole self into it...I have also seen broken marriages put back tog ehtre but it took one to get the ball rolling, but what ever the case, if you sit bnack and do nothing but be miserable, you will die an unhappy person and that to me, my dear would be sad, all over a a disrespectful, dishonoring, self centered guy, SO NOT WORTH IT!
   Twenty one years is a lot of time . There is enough advice and stone throwing on this board it scares me to death. I keep reading kick him to the curb.....get out....get a divorce. Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to put up with this crap but twenty one years is a long time. Your marriage didn't get here overnight and it won't get out overnight. Thirty two years of marriage here so I know a little of what goes on.You have so much to consider......children.....your own feelings. Just don't let it be a death sentence of your marriage until you decide. Not how other people feel or what they say.....it is about you.Read Dr. Phil's book.
 
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June 26, 2006, 3:46 pm PDT

Kick in the ass

If this man was my husband, 

  

I would have kicked him out of the house , out of my life , but not before putting some lube on my shoe and kicking him right in the ass!  He should be ashamed of himself for even suggesting such a pile of crap to his wife.   If you didn't want to be tied down in one relationship, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, as far as I am concerned this man is what I like to call a "man whore". 

 
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June 26, 2006, 3:50 pm PDT

stay the course

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 Thanks for you support and kind words...................

Been stirring things up abit today...... but it is all in good fun.......

We are really  focused and still have a ways to go, we still have our moments...peticularly when we are introduced to someone with the same name as the OW.

I was intoxicated with confusion and arrogance when we appeared on the show ....its really different now...... we learned so much ....it was a wake up call.

But, time is on our side .....

Charles, you sound so different in this message. I am thrilled for you and your wife.  Marriage and family is the most important thing in life. I know you are beginning to appreciate the wonderful family you have. Stay the course, all my prayers and best wishes for you, your wife and your family!  

This is the side of you everyone in the studio needed to know was there. I assumed that because an incredible woman was married to you, you must have another side. I know my husband did have another side, unfortuneately he lived his life with the wrong side!  Congrats in being someone to figure it out!  

 
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June 26, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

Move on.

I think that you need to move on. He isn't the one for you and not setting a good example for the kids. You don't want the kids to be like that, kick him to the CURB!!!!!!! He did it to you before and he'll do it again. Broke the trust between you guys now, he is really going to WORK HARD TO GET THE TRUST BACK IN THIS REALATIONSHIP.  You are a good person I can see it in you and you can do it.   

 
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June 26, 2006, 3:54 pm PDT

Don't Dump Your Friend

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 he has others he can talk to and it is not your place to be his friend , Dont call him or talk with him ever again unless you want to be a selfish amoral human being.
   We all need friends to use as a sounding board. He knows you are happily married and plan on staying that way. I'd be kind and tell him you understand his problems with his marriage but you are not his answer......you're his friend.
 
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June 26, 2006, 3:54 pm PDT

Twisted love

Now I really know why I choose to stay single
 
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June 26, 2006, 4:01 pm PDT

I agree.

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If this man was my husband, 

  

I would have kicked him out of the house , out of my life , but not before putting some lube on my shoe and kicking him right in the ass!  He should be ashamed of himself for even suggesting such a pile of crap to his wife.   If you didn't want to be tied down in one relationship, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, as far as I am concerned this man is what I like to call a "man whore". 

He's lucky to have one woman, let alone two.  I knew a guy like this, nothing but ego - and when he ended up alone in his forties with nothing but his screwy ideas to live with, it was not a pretty picture. He ended up moving in with is mother. (Even if he's got looks and money, fundamentally he's got nothing but ego.)
 
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June 26, 2006, 4:03 pm PDT

Gettin' there!

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I just watched the show and realize it is a rerun but I couldn't resist posting my reaction to this situation, at least my reaction to what the situation was at the time the show was aired. Is this guy for real?? I don't buy this alpha male crap either, I really believe he had to validate himself as a male, as a lover, as being desirable, etc...he was outright bragging about how he was able to "satisfy" the two women for 3 months and he is so superficial, mentioning numerous times how "gorgeous" the other woman is, like that could be so understandable as to why he would be interested in her. Yes, giving birth to and raising 4 children and apparently putting up with the likes of Charles for 20 years and God knows what else, will take its toll on a woman, not to imply that his wife by any means is unattractive. He mentions that the other woman has "time" for him unlike his wife: did he ever think to get off his lazy a** and free up some of his wife's time by helping her and making her life easier instead of finding some "gorgeous" woman to amuse him? Charles, move in with her, knock her up a few times and when she is too busy washing your clothes, feeding and raising your babies we'll see how much time she has for you and how utterly attractive she remains.  

Also, did anyone notice how the whole show was about him, why HE didn't feel remorse, why HE this and that, etc...? And how he continuously talked about the other woman like his wife wasn't even there, mentioning her apparent beauty, how attracted he was to her, how she had awakened his senses, how he loved her, blah blah blah? He has no respect, not an iota, for his wife, for women in general, nor for his children, who will one day see how shallow and conceited and arrogant their father really is and let's just hope that they learned their values from their mom who apparently isand has been the main influence in their lives.  

What a first class jerk, alpha jerk no less! How come jerks don't know they're jerks? I would NEVER find this man attractive in any way, he exudes patheticism, for lack of a better word. I think he and the "gorgeous" woman deserve each other and should ride off into the sunset together, one more pitiful than the other. I wonder if he was able to watch the show later from an objective point of view and realize how ludicrous he was? Is that posting really from him?
As for his wife, I hope she has since awaken from her hurt and moved on to realize she is worth so much more than this creep has led her to believe. Poly-fidelity, ha! What a joke! Maybe he should move out of America and go where poly-fidelity is accepted. Which on a last note, how would he like it if his wife took an interest in having another man and maybe have him meet Charles and get along and car pool and take turns in bed with HER? She has to much class for that from what I saw but that would have been poetic! I though Dr. Phil might have spent more time exploring this angle, turning the tables on Chuck but he only gave it a passing mention.
Uggh, I have such a bad taste in my mouth having seen this guy, yuck!  

Yes, I must be a "vemonous" women to have such feelings and thoughts about poor, misunderstood Charles. 

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:03 pm PDT

please reply to my email for support

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Your are probably right Charles.  Most of the women are responding are or have been "duped".  To believe, love and support a man that when tested, will "jump ship" to "gratify"  his/her own feelings.  My husband left 3 months ago after 20 years of marriage.  He left me and our children to go "see" if there was anything there was to pursue with another woman.  The pain and humiliation - deception - you will never feel.  Your wife would never do that to you.  I can certainly understand you were looking for something knew/different... but that is the time to turn to your spouse and ask for more.  You never know, you may have not been fulfilling her needs as well.  I don't understand duplicity...I don't understand anyone thinking that there are just that wonderful that all should share them.  What hurts most of all, is the betrayal.  In your situation, you had the sense and the spirit of familial bond, to do the right thing for your family.  My husband, is still "trying" to make it work with someone else while asking me to hold on and wait.  I would not do what he did to me and I don't think I will wait for him to "figure it out".  My convictions and beliefs are clear.  I will not let allow anyone to make me believe that I - alone- is not good enough to last the test of time.  God Bless you and your family.  I applaud you for being a real man and doing what was right for your family. 
 we are paying it forward .... there is still time to get him back if you want him !!!  We will give you the benefit of stellar counseling.....

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