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(Original Air Date: 02/02/06) Charles says he has exhausted his relationship with his wife of 19 years, and he's ready to try an alternative lifestyle. Instead of getting a divorce, Charles wants to explore polyfidelity -- a relationship where he is shared between his wife and his mistress. The mistress says she'll give it a try, but his wife, Tracy, says the thought makes her sick. Can Charles convince his wife to share him for the sake of their marriage? And what does Dr. Phil think? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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June 26, 2006, 4:05 pm PDT

Good For You

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Charles, you are nothing if not a pathological liar.  

   

I've just seen another segment of the show wherein "the other woman" has spoken and exposed you in at least 2, maybe 3 lies.  Tracy then turned to you at the break and began to run them down for you.  Your face had already reddened a bit because you knew you had been exposed and you just did your best to keep looking sanctimonious as hell and purse your lips and nod your head too much.    

   

Dr. Phil hasn't even BEGUN to punch your ticket...........arrogant and selfish................hasn't even BEGUN.  

   

Yippy, next break.....and Dr. Phil has just described for us how it's gonna be....(holding up what COULD BE A RAT BY THE TAIL)...."You realized, 'oh, yeah, I GOT HIM BACK'"....like YUCK, "you sonofabitch!"  Well, Tracy....I believe in forgiveness but I also don't think a leopard changes his spots too much............and I would throw THAT sewer rat right down the sewage drain where THAT ONE belongs because Charles is just going to do you so dirty down the road again.  I can smell this one coming.  It isn't going to be pretty AT ALL.  He is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.    

   

Here he goes again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Next segment.............."Maybe I was just like a kid in a candy store trying to feed my insatiable need for sweets."  He wants to move out and "find out" why he did this to his innocent wife (after blaming America first for "victimizing others" for not being a polycheating,  I mean polyfidelity society...........this guy is a JERK!  He just wants AN APARMENT TO HUCK HIS GIRLFRIEND IN, PEOPLE.  I'm done with this man.  Like I said......................................I hate him.  

   

Charles (to your face)..............you need more help than Dr. Phil can give you.  THAT's how bad it is.  

    Charles & Tracy I caught the show today and loved it.....here comes the stones at me now. I give you credit buddy for being so honest. I have been in your shoes and your story is so mine. Twenty two years later with grown children and now two grandchildren ,one on the way.....I made the same decision. So you pay your dues in a marriage....you learn a lot about yourself and your wife. It makes a better person of you to still hang in there.I wish you both all the luck in the world. Enjoy your family and love them more than yourself.
 
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June 26, 2006, 4:08 pm PDT

Tossing Terms

Aside from a vary narrow viewpoint of what is "Right" this show bothered us mainly with it's use of "POLYFIDELIS" it does NOT mean: a guy with two women.  POLY means many and FIDELIS" means, roughly, 'exclusive'. To those of us in this lifestyle polyfidelis is a term used to indicate a Triad or more of conscenting adults that keep their sexual intimacy between them, not stepping outside of the immediate group. The gentleman on the show kept throwing this term around, not knowing at all what it ment. The term he should have been using is Triad, or Polyamorous.  This is also not Polygamy (Polygamy is being "MARRIED" to more than one person) 

  

If anyone would like to find out more about the realities and possabilities of a polyamorous lifestyle there are many sites dedicated to this lifestyle.  

  

  

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:08 pm PDT

I applaud you!

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My husband cheated on me after 24 years of marriage.  Our youngest was 18.  I would not let him in the house.   He slept at his office.  He could not understand my attitude.  I then loaded up a U-Haul and took half of everything.  THE BEST HALF.  I moved to another state and rented an apartment with the help of my parents.  I looked for a job.  I told hims I would not be back until he got his head out of his @@@!   He moved back into an empty house, so to speak.  I even took the cookware.  Turned him around REAL FAST.  I only came back on two conditions we went to counceling and he got rid of his "Friend" .  He could not have a girlfriend and a wife at the same time.  It took a while for the trust again, but both of us have never forgotten.  That was 4 years ago and we are doing  better.  (P.S.  I keep his penis in a canning jar on top of the refrigerator now). 

  

I wish Charlie and Tracey luck.  Hope your counceling is working. 

  

By the way  his "Friend" is now divorced from an Open Marriage and is pretty much a  WH@@@@@. 

I applaud your self-respect and strong identity.  You took the bull by the horns.  You responded quickly and with a plan.  Either way, if you went back to him, or went on to someone else, you'd have been a winner.  That's the kind of thing a man would respect, and he did.  Clear and decisive action!  

   

If more women were like you, men like Charlie would not have a chance.  

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:10 pm PDT

what is wrong with these men???

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My husband cheated on me after 24 years of marriage.  Our youngest was 18.  I would not let him in the house.   He slept at his office.  He could not understand my attitude.  I then loaded up a U-Haul and took half of everything.  THE BEST HALF.  I moved to another state and rented an apartment with the help of my parents.  I looked for a job.  I told hims I would not be back until he got his head out of his @@@!   He moved back into an empty house, so to speak.  I even took the cookware.  Turned him around REAL FAST.  I only came back on two conditions we went to counceling and he got rid of his "Friend" .  He could not have a girlfriend and a wife at the same time.  It took a while for the trust again, but both of us have never forgotten.  That was 4 years ago and we are doing  better.  (P.S.  I keep his penis in a canning jar on top of the refrigerator now). 

  

I wish Charlie and Tracey luck.  Hope your counceling is working. 

  

By the way  his "Friend" is now divorced from an Open Marriage and is pretty much a  WH@@@@@. 

I dont understand it, it is one thing to have an affair, but to coerce your wife into having a 'threesome" is sick.  There are so many things going around at this day in age that yall should be afraid to "whip that thing out" at all.  What if your wives wanted to have an "open relationship", what would you really think of her?  I'll tell you what, it is not all that it is cracked up to be. I ended up with one of these kinds of relationships, not by choice, I kept catching my husband with other women to the point that I didnt even want him to look at me let alone touch me so now I have someone else that keeps my company and now my husband knows it and do you know what he had the nerve to say to me? "I will stay married to you but I wont have sex with you".  His dumb @@@ wasnt doing that anyway that is why I had to find it somewhere else. Needless to say we are getting a divorce but it is okay because he has his life and now I have mine because I refuse to be like my brother, he has a wife, a mistress and a girlfriend and they are all living under the same roof taking care of each other's children.....now that is some mess ain't it?  

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

Can relate

  

  

      I can relate. My husband and I have only been married 4 years come August, and had told me he is unhappy with our sex life and want's to try an "alternative life style". Swinging we've tried it before and I didn't want to but did for him I hated it, but I kept with it. Now he knows I hated it but wants me to do it again and I don't like being with other men nor him with other women. He is a truck driver and is gone 2 weeks at a time, and he stopped in the area and I met up with him. He had sexy pics of his ex girlfriend whom I don't know, but I was very upset. He said he only had them up once but I'm still very upset about it. Does he have a real reason to keep them or am I right, he's with me now and married he shouldn't need them he should just need me right??? Am I wrong in this???? I found more pics here at home and he wants me to keep them for him and I got mad. Am I right or just being Jealous??  

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

Hmm

How does one put themselves in the position of not carring for themselves anymore??  She should have gotten rid of him along time before.. The other women and him are both to blame in th situation from the start, even if he was getting a divorce she should have waited till it was finalized to express her feeling's with him... especially if there are children involved  

   

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:14 pm PDT

No need to change MY profile!

Quote From: charles_

 I rest my case about venomous women.............. and she even references the Bible??? 

See her profile before she changes it! 

Where is the forgiveness???  ....Come on..!!!

Just having fun this time.....LOLROTF


Bye

Charles (on the show)

Chuck.....................this is about YOU................isn't EVERYTHING? 

  

I have no need to change my profile.  So stop trying to deflect the firestorm onto you with your quips about "it's all in good fun" or any other nonsense. 

  

Have you lost your mind? 

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:16 pm PDT

NO WAY!!!

That is something I would never tolerate in my marriage. I've been through hell & back w/hubby & if this man thinks he's going to say some sh$$ to me like that he better think twice. I gave an oath to my marriage to be faithful & if he doesn't want to abide by that then he knows where the door is. I love him but dare say something like that to me & here comes a frying pan to his head. 

 
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June 26, 2006, 4:17 pm PDT

06/26 Twisted Love

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I want to tell you I believe if you are good friends it is your responsibility to make sure your friend doesn't do the WRONG thing.  If he is unhapy and wants out then help him to make sure he has tried everything to make the marriage work. If then and only then he wants out, help him do it in a way that it will be the less destructive for the wife and family. My husband had a friend that led him to other women, told him what he was doing (cheating) was okay, and never encouraged trying to work it out, or to do the right thing, be a man and end the marriage in the best way for all of us. If you feel the friendship is too "close:" and that he really may be interested in you in a different way, you must close the door, let him face his life and the choices and after he has done that and STOOD on his own two feet then you could enter his life again if you choose. GOOOD for you in seeing the problem and stepping up to the plate not to create a bad situation. The world needs more people to do that.
thank you, his feelings are not of friendship but more, so i have decided to let him deal with his marriage without me.  i also don't think we can be friends in the future as long as he has these feelings for me.  your words have helped me deal with the guilt i have been feeling  for dropping him. thank you
 
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June 26, 2006, 4:19 pm PDT

I agree with you!

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If this man was my husband, 

  

I would have kicked him out of the house , out of my life , but not before putting some lube on my shoe and kicking him right in the ass!  He should be ashamed of himself for even suggesting such a pile of crap to his wife.   If you didn't want to be tied down in one relationship, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, as far as I am concerned this man is what I like to call a "man whore". 

The rationale behind Charlie keeping the wife and the "other woman" is simply this -- Divorce is expensive. Otherwise, why would he even suggest such an arrangement.   Of course a man would rather keep two women than pay for his freedom with a divorce.  Why not have the cake, and eat it too!     

   

Personally, I don't think Charlie and Tracey are going to make it.  He does not seem sure of what he is doing or what he wants.  She is way too submissive, not a good way to be with any man.     

 
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