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Topic : 06/26 Twisted Love

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Created on : Friday, January 27, 2006, 02:41:03 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/02/06) Charles says he has exhausted his relationship with his wife of 19 years, and he's ready to try an alternative lifestyle. Instead of getting a divorce, Charles wants to explore polyfidelity -- a relationship where he is shared between his wife and his mistress. The mistress says she'll give it a try, but his wife, Tracy, says the thought makes her sick. Can Charles convince his wife to share him for the sake of their marriage? And what does Dr. Phil think? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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June 27, 2006, 9:41 pm PDT

Get Real Charles

I thought Dr Phil handled this topic with incredible patience and skill. Sadly I think there are a number of married men who think they can have their cake and eat it, that is until they either get caught or they realize their wives have thoughts and feelings and values about this type of behaviour. Charles appears to be incredibly selfish, arrogrant, over proud and obviously considers his own needs and desires are all that matter in the entire world. I believe he has used his wife, family, and the other woman. He has done a lot of emotional harm to all of these people - and he couldn't care less. He just DOESN' GET IT. Maybe one day someone will betray him in the same way he has done to these individuals. Frances34 From Australia
 
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June 27, 2006, 9:51 pm PDT

Twisted Love

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Sorry, but Charles is not only not "all that" but he isn't even half of that. Go straight to a divorce lawyer and let Charles explain all this to a judge. 

"Southern" is so right...I thought Charles was disgusting...his arrogance and conceit sickened me.   

  

I would be sitting in my attorney's office with the police with a restraining order for this abusive and unattractive male.  Talk about a MID-LIFE CRISES!  

  

Throw Charles out to his little 'friend' and see how long that lasts once SHE has him all the time.  What an insufferable bore he was.  

 
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June 28, 2006, 1:28 am PDT

Feed me, Seymour, feeeed me!

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I need to be enlightened.  Can you tell me how Charles can be on this message board offering help to other couples?  I would think he would have a full plate just trying to do right for his own wife and family.  I mean, it's only been six months, and not only has Charles been completely transformed back to the ideal family man (it's a MIRACLE!!) , he is now able to offer help?  Gimme a break - just goes to show how egotistical this fellow is.    

   

   

It's pretty evident that Charles likes being the center of the universe. This stint on national TV must be a godsend! As they say in Hollywood there is NO bad publicity. And there is no way that even humiliating revelation is bad when you can revel in the loathing attention of thousands -millions- more Dr. Phil fans with each rerun and a whole new round of ranting messages.  

   

My dears, the ego must be fed. We're the ones who are doing it. Keep shoveling, girls!  

 
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June 28, 2006, 6:31 am PDT

Amazing, isn't it?

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I need to be enlightened.  Can you tell me how Charles can be on this message board offering help to other couples?  I would think he would have a full plate just trying to do right for his own wife and family.  I mean, it's only been six months, and not only has Charles been completely transformed back to the ideal family man (it's a MIRACLE!!) , he is now able to offer help?  Gimme a break - just goes to show how egotistical this fellow is.    

   

   

Just like a child he claims that this happened sooooo long ago.  To a child 6 months is a very long time.  This man is very sick.  So is his long suffering wife.    

   

My heart goes out to the children (but more so to their future wives).  These children are being raised by children.  How terribly unfortunate for them.  What a miserable excuse for parents.  I don't understand how people like this always seem to think it is a good idea to become parents.  They should have had the sense to sterilize themselves from the beginning.  Unfortunately, neither of them have any sense.  I do pity the wife, though.  

 
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June 28, 2006, 6:38 am PDT

You Said It, Sister.

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I am guessing you are posting this to simply get a rise out of the message board audience.  Charles behavior was atrocious and for many women, his actions would have been unforgivable.   

We heard the cruel, selfish, hurtful comments directly from Charles.  We saw what his "dating while married" lifestyle did to Tracey, 30 pound weight drop and hair loss.  His actions practically destroyed her.  He saw her desperate actions to attempt to salvage their relationship as a bonus, because it spiced up their lack-luster love life.   

   

WHY shouldn't we get upset when we see someone emotionally abuse, torture and bully  his spouse and the mother of his children?  During the show, Charles wasn't one bit concerned about anyones agenda, except his own.  He was proud of his ability to win a trophy woman, who had time to pamper him.  And worse yet, he tried to con his wife into thinking it would be appropriate for both women to share him.     

   

Now, six months or so after the show aired, Charles claims to have seen the error of his ways, so our opinions simply don't matter.  I will say this, if you don't want to be the subject of scrutiny on a message board, don't open up your life on a globally televised show.   

   

Finally, I am sure there are multitudes of women who have experienced the same treatment as Tracey.  They have been brutalized by selfish, clueless men who simply don't care about their partners and treat them as if they are disposable.  It is unreasonable to think that they shouldn't feel anger when they see someone like Charles, who acted so clueless and so entitled to have his own way, no matter what the cost was to his wife and family.   

   

Charles is not my punching bag, but he is a stellar example of the kind of fellow I never wish to cross paths with.  The way Charles has "stirred things up" on the message board shows just what kind of class act he is.  It's still all about him, how he craves attention and how everyone who doesn't see things his way is wrong.  

I think you hit the nail on the head.
 
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June 28, 2006, 6:53 am PDT

To Charles and family

I did see the show and I want you both to know that you are fortunate that you realized that  you needed answers to your questions and that Dr. Phil had provided you with the resources.  When I married my first husband, all I really longed for was a marriage of love, friendship and children.  Mine did not work out so well after 10 years of it and then another 4 years of a bitter divorce process.  Isn't it amazing that the older we get the more we learn about ourselves.  The best of luck to you both and your family no matter what the outcome will be in the future.  You don't live in the future  - you do live in the moment. 

Jannie 

 
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June 28, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

Twisted Love//twisted husband

This topic for me touches a sore spot.My husband has been in a relationship with his mistress for over 4 years who has accepted to be his second wife. she even wears his ring that he bought. We has been married 12 years and recently found out about him and her. He has said that it is over but i dont believe him he recently went on leave and she concidently took leave.His lies and deciet are driving me crazy. To top it off when i bring up the topic he is very abusive and threatens violence. His behaviour towards me bad even when he is pretending to be nice i can feel that it is not real.He even says things like you know about her so. When i ask him wherther he wants me to accept it he keeps quite. He says when my father is foolish for telling him to end the relationship coz no one canforce him. Our sex life is like forced and insults by saying stuff like am not women enough when the only time he wants to have sex with me is in the morning.    

I want to leave him but for the sake of the children i want to stay i dont want them to grow up from a broken home. But i need to be financially stable before i make my move. All i feel is hatred for him i guess i still love him that is why i feel anything if at all. 

At night i cant sleep all i keep analysing is the situation. Any one please help  

 
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June 28, 2006, 8:14 am PDT

To "skydivechk" and "shylioness"

You've both quoted my reply to "mixicana" in your messages, but they kinda read as if you're both directing your comments at ME, personally ~~ to clarify; my comments were directed at "mixicana"; I'm NOT the one who has been cheating with a married man..she is. 

 

Lucy B. 

 
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June 28, 2006, 8:47 am PDT

For the Sake of the Children - Leave HIM!

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This topic for me touches a sore spot.My husband has been in a relationship with his mistress for over 4 years who has accepted to be his second wife. she even wears his ring that he bought. We has been married 12 years and recently found out about him and her. He has said that it is over but i dont believe him he recently went on leave and she concidently took leave.His lies and deciet are driving me crazy. To top it off when i bring up the topic he is very abusive and threatens violence. His behaviour towards me bad even when he is pretending to be nice i can feel that it is not real.He even says things like you know about her so. When i ask him wherther he wants me to accept it he keeps quite. He says when my father is foolish for telling him to end the relationship coz no one canforce him. Our sex life is like forced and insults by saying stuff like am not women enough when the only time he wants to have sex with me is in the morning.    

I want to leave him but for the sake of the children i want to stay i dont want them to grow up from a broken home. But i need to be financially stable before i make my move. All i feel is hatred for him i guess i still love him that is why i feel anything if at all. 

At night i cant sleep all i keep analysing is the situation. Any one please help  

I came from a "broken home" and I am pretty darn normal.  Some of my friends parents stayed in broken marriages and they are messed up in various ways.  Your marriage is broken.  The children will be far better off if you don't force them to live in the mess that your husband made.  They will respect you.  Just don't bad mouth the creep to the kids and they will do fine.  Sooner or later his true colors will reveal themselves to the kids without help from you.  Get out of this as fast as you can so that you can heal and move on with your life.    

   

Financial stability is overrated if you have to choose between it or destroying yourself and your kids.  

 
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June 28, 2006, 8:49 am PDT

He'll NEVER change...

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I need to be enlightened.  Can you tell me how Charles can be on this message board offering help to other couples?  I would think he would have a full plate just trying to do right for his own wife and family.  I mean, it's only been six months, and not only has Charles been completely transformed back to the ideal family man (it's a MIRACLE!!) , he is now able to offer help?  Gimme a break - just goes to show how egotistical this fellow is.    

   

   

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    From Charles on the show

Like I said in earlier posts (in March) ...(as a matter of fact you can query all my post's)....

Most of the women who were dumped or jilted are the ones posting venom....... and here is your chance to take it out on a guy you saw on TV.......... Go ahead  throw your best venom on the posts.......


This fact remains ...We are a family and We are Very Happy now........

Charles
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Right you are "cruikie"!  Charles is NO authority on couples' therapy OR marital sanctity and, from the tone of his message copied/pasted above, he obviously STILL doesn't "get it".  The guilty ALWAYS point fingers at others to lessen the attention on themselves rather than accept full accountability for any wrong-doing or respect constructive criticism.    

    

"Alpha"-Charles...you HAD your taste of fame and, after having truly made a spectacle of yourself, are you pleased with the outcome? The most redeeming quality you can ever have is COMPASSION...let Tracy go and get on with what's left of her own life; to restore her dignity and especially the lives/dignity of your children, who will surely come to DESPISE you in the long run.   

   

   

Lucy B.   

 
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