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Created on : Friday, February 03, 2006, 04:17:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/07/06) Follow Dr. Phil inside an incredible family drama. Sixteen-year-old Amanda has been missing for over four months. Her parents, Paul and Linda, say she ran away with her boyfriend, George, and what they call his "Gypsy family." Dr. Phil puts his own investigator on the case in a hunt that stretches across 10 state lines. See Amanda’s tearful reunion with her mother, but then learn why their sweet moments together soon turn sour. Dr. Phil hears the teen's emotional confession about where she's been, and where she hopes to go next. Plus, the family erupts in a conflict so explosive, authorities have to be called to their hotel. What sets Amanda off? Dr. Phil puts some tough questions to George, and Amanda's family makes a heart-wrenching decision about their daughter's future. Can Amanda's life be set straight? Talk about the show here.

 

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August 25, 2006, 5:35 pm PDT

08/16 The Hunt for Amanda

Quote From: misslemon

Honey, it's too late for Amanda's parents to tell her that they are the parents and she needs to respect them.  As far as everybody screaming at each other, well, just look at where that's gotten them, please?  These are people who have not parented their daughter properly.  As long as she was a compliant child, their bad parenting didn't manifest itself.  Once she started to grow up and have thoughts and feelings of her own, TOO LATE!  Happy children who come from homes where they feel like they are valued, respected, and loved even in tough times do not run away.  In this case, Amanda's parents waited until way too late to assert their parental authority and THEY need to be sent away to a "Copper Canyon" for adults so they can learn how to be better parents once Amanda comes home.
Don't the parents realize that they are driving their daughter right into the boy's arms!!!!  I know from experience.  I finally gotaway from my abusive relationship when my parents and friends decided to leave me alone about and let me see for myself what a bad influence he was.  I eventually ended up a single parent because I got pregnant by him.....I was 22 at the time.  My beatiful son just turned 19 and recently graduated high school.
 
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August 29, 2006, 9:31 pm PDT

you need to get a grip.

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They didn't want her to talk to someone who was part of a group that kidnapped her and brainwashed her.

One day, when you are a parent you will understand this. I suspect you are Amy or someone her age who simply doesn't understand what it's like to be a parent.
 you sound just like amandas mother, saying oh you must be her age, wahwah! im a mother, only 20 and i think it is stupid. and i dare you to treat your children like that and see how far you get. as a parent your responsibility is to guide your children not make the decisions for them. they will learn from there mistakes. if her mother doesn't want to give her a chance why should amanda give her one. sure amanda should respect her mother but at the same time her mother doesn't respect her or her choices, RESPECT is to be earned do just expected because she is the parent. her mother is going on like he is beating her and holding her captive it was her choice to leave because her mother wouldn\t compromise with her about the relationship, and so what if she has SEX! its life, and instead of trying to stop it because what teenager is going to listen she could have taught her safe sex which is another responsibility of parenting. you might think oh your just as dumb but my mother has brought  me up  very well she didnt treat me like a child let me make my own decision and we have the best relationship. so maybe her mother should just chill out and let her daughter grow up its gotta happen one day.
 
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August 29, 2006, 9:39 pm PDT

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I agree completel;y and am shocked by the number of posts who have the attitude of Poor Amanda.  Amanda is headed for a life of hell if they don't get control of her.  These other people cannot have children or they wouldn't be saying these things.  I ahve a 12 year old and if I had to quit my job and camp out in her room to watch her 24 hours a day I would do it to keep her safe.  She is the light of my life and I feel physicaly ill when I think about what I would do if she ever ran away.
 have you ever thought that if her mother didnt make such a big deal she wouldn't be heading for a life of hell. mistakes are to be made in life and when  your daughter is ready to experience sex and boyfriends bet you will get the same grief as amandas mother if you camp out on her floor and get real if you quit work after a while you wont have a floor to camp out on.why dont you think about went you were and teen?
 
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August 29, 2006, 9:48 pm PDT

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It was interesting reading your email.  I put a post on here saying that if the parents weren't able to get her under control, she would be pregnant, a criminal wiht George abusing her or a combination of all three.  A few people thought I was a know it all because I mentioned I've worked at a welfare office for 15 years and have seen a thousand Amanda/s but it is extremely predictable to see a kid like Amanda- they almost always end up in the smae boat. My heart goes out to yuo.  You are doing the right thing by letting her raise the child (provided she's safe) and letting her live this"adult" life.  She wanted it and now she nees to clean it up.  God bless you.
 when on the show did it say that george was abusing her, they just want to be together. and whats the big deal if she gets pregnant dont you see your child or children as a blessing, and jst because she is still pretty much a child herselves doesn't mean she cant be a good mother or cant feel the same way as me and you. i became a mother at 17 and i have grown up so much and i love my boy.it wasn't a mistake either me and my partner had planned for a baby you dont need to be 30 to know that a baby is what you want. so stop replying to all the messages and think about it real hard.
 
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August 29, 2006, 10:05 pm PDT

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 i aint going to run the parents down yes every parent want the best for there children but at the same time  they have to give the children a chance to make decisions in life the best way is possibly just to guide them the best you can and hope they do the right thing.i can see where amandas mother is coming from but at the same time i can see why amanda is acting out. all she wants is to be with george and her mother to understand. her mothers way of compromise was just silly whos wants there mother and father sitting there looking at them. amanda was wiling to be at home with her parents with compromise and the first chance her mother got she tried to take her second phone away from her, that was the reason she left in the first place. her mother just needs to trust amanda and invading her privacy like busting into the shower to try and get the phone is just unacceptable. if she wants to text him LET her.if you give, than she will give and so on.i feel for amanda that she is not being heard everyone just saying oh you only want your way but so is her mother she only wants her way so that wont work. they think sending her off to that school or what eva it is will fix it well they'll get a big wake up call when amanda is of age she will go to george and her parents will never she her again and there is nothing them or the police are going to be able to do. so i suggest they really think about it and compromise with her, the sooner they start treating her like an adult the sooner she will start acting like one.GUDLUCK!!!!
 
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August 30, 2006, 12:08 am PDT

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 you sound just like amandas mother, saying oh you must be her age, wahwah! im a mother, only 20 and i think it is stupid. and i dare you to treat your children like that and see how far you get. as a parent your responsibility is to guide your children not make the decisions for them. they will learn from there mistakes. if her mother doesn't want to give her a chance why should amanda give her one. sure amanda should respect her mother but at the same time her mother doesn't respect her or her choices, RESPECT is to be earned do just expected because she is the parent. her mother is going on like he is beating her and holding her captive it was her choice to leave because her mother wouldn\t compromise with her about the relationship, and so what if she has SEX! its life, and instead of trying to stop it because what teenager is going to listen she could have taught her safe sex which is another responsibility of parenting. you might think oh your just as dumb but my mother has brought  me up  very well she didnt treat me like a child let me make my own decision and we have the best relationship. so maybe her mother should just chill out and let her daughter grow up its gotta happen one day.
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.  You don't sound very mature yet, but that's ok. You are only 20. I am only 28 and I still see that I have growing to do.

Have a nice day. :)
 
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September 8, 2006, 11:04 am PDT

pave princess have a brother??

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YES I AM A "GYPSY" TOO..IM A 17YR OLD GIRL WHOS ENGAGED TO A 20YR OLD MAN (im waitin til i get home from florida to get married) but anyways YOUS REALLY NEED TO STOP HATIN ON US CASUE WE AINT REALLY DONE NOTHIN TO YAS...lemme ask yas a question,who put them roads in that you drive to work on everyday? who layed that blacktop in your driveway so you could park your truck n your car there? who blacktops the mayors driveway? who blacktops the policeman's driveway? THATS RIGHT, WE DID, so dont be hateful and put us down, talk bad about us and run us into the ground,who are you to judge us? you people dont know the first thing about us, and thats the way it should stay.gorgers shouldnt try to be one of us and marry into our kind, becasue obviously yous cant handle it, no, kids go to school and no women dont work, but when you grow up pavin, who needs education as long as you can count money and read and write, your doin good. can you imagine not havin to go to work?ladies? just shoppin and takin care of the kids, theres nothin wrong with that.  also how many of you people are christians? did yous know that jesus christ died for your sins? if you didnt well thats ashame, because jesus loves you and you should know it. INSTEAD OF WONDERIN AND WORRYIN ABOUT US, GO TO CHURCH AND GET PRAYED ON BECAUSE IT SEEMS SO MANY OF YOUS ARE LOST . YOUS ALL THINK YOU CAN GO AROUND JUDGING PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE GOD BUT YOUR NOT. THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN JUDGE US IS THE LORD UP ABOVE, WELL I WILL PRAY FOR YAS DONT WORRY and quit bein so jealous, everyones got the same oppertuinity, you just gotta get out there and go for it.  

LIKE MY DADDY SAYS:WE LAY,YOU PAY  

EXCEPTIONAL BLACKTOP PAVING SERVING THE STATE SINCE 1982  

HOLLA AT ME 

Hey Princess

 

Do you have an older brother??  love gypsies !!

 
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September 8, 2006, 11:17 am PDT

would like to chat with you

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My posts about the whole matter if you'd like you can cruise through the message board to verify my posts as I have copied and pasted them: 

You did the right thing by "controlling it before it got out of hand" and thats exactly what the mother should've done with her, not wait until 2 years had passed. She mentioned she was gone for 5 months but they also stated she was seeing him for 2 yrs. The mother knew too...  

To go for brain washing...... No one brain washed her , she made a choice to do what she did , and yes the boy's family was in the wrong for going through with it without consent but they didn't force her to go either. She did so on her own free will as I took it when watching the show.  

At 16 we are planning for future whether it be college , marriage, work, etc... Some have stated how you can't possibly be mature enough to get married at that age. They would end up in a failed marriage. Well my mother married at 16 and she had 4 kids, still married to the same man (my father) for 32 years now. I don't see that as a failed marriage. 16 Year olds are making a choice to which college they want to attend for what courses , majors,degrees, careers. How do we get our dr's , lawyers, cooks, etc.... Some go to college some don't but they do accomplish what they set out to do as long as they put their minds to it. There are also fabulous mothers out there who DO NOT work and have beautiful families. There is no rule saying every single person in this world needs to work a job (paying job). Yes I do agree with you that if she's not married yeah go to school. If he is working on the truck paving or whatever , what is she gonna do just sit around and wait for him to come home? Make herself useful during those hours and learn.  

To me if they didn't marry while she was gone for those 5 months there were no plans of him doing so ... SO yes she needs to be home in school. BUT ALSO remember this .... they didn't steal her away she chose to go.. so besides the fact that they didn't get consent , exactly why is it this boy's fault that Amamnda took off?  

judgeing others without knowing them 

I just wanted to ask to all who have their opinions on this whole matter these questions and yes comments from myself. First thing is this episode is to do with a runaway right? So far as I read through these posts I have seen accusations made about all parties that no one even knows personally. My opinions are.... Yes she is a young girl that may or may not be confused of what she really wants. Yes the parents have the right to keep her from running off. Yes the boy and his family was wrong for taking her in and leaving town with out making sure it was ok with the parents. No they didn't have the right ( cell phone or not) to bust in on a girl in the middle of taking a shower. There is a limit on how far parents can go when it involves whether you are male or female in bathrooms. People go to jail for things like that.  

Like alot of others have commented on , do we really know what was going on indoors of this family's lives before this show aired? Like for instance what was the reason for mom and dad splitting? was it to do with Amanda? was he cheating? was the mother doing wrong? NO ONE knows because it wasn't shared or investagated. What was the core of this girl wanting out so bad? At the end of the show the parents already made their minds up without bothering to listen to her of what they were going to do. AND what was it ? NOTHING they would rather ship her off to have someone else fix her so they didn't have to deal with it. My opinion on that is they all as a group / family should have gone through counsling to work things out.  

To go for the gypsy thing would it matter if it was a gypsy or a non gypsy? Either way she ran away. AND for those who want to put "US" all in the same catagory as that family that took off with her. Yes as you can tell by my name I am one or as we call our selves travelers. I have a high school diploma , 3 kids who are in a Christian school. We are homestead my husband was born and raised here. I have my own business and he has his own , yes its paving, painting, roofing, all which he is lic, insured, even a member of the BBB. When those who attack other race , cultures etc... you are looking at a one sided issue. Not all are the same as others have posted. There are some good and bad . When you call us all bad you must be one of those who see blacks to be drug dealers, whites to be in the KKK , mexicans illegal imigrants, muslums to be carrying bombs. etc etc ... when it all boils down to this, we are all different in many ways , some high class , some middle class , and yes some poverity but just because you are of another race or culture doesn't mean you are all one in the same. You are judging with out knowing .....  

For those that think you are better than anyone else, I am sorry you have competition on your paving business but we all try to get a better deal on any type of work or business , isn't that how certain companies get ranked for the best ? No I don't believe in taking advantage of elderly or anyone for that matter some do and NEWS FLASH !!! it's not just gypsies.. SO get real snap into reality.  

Now back to Amanda , she needs to be heard her feelings are welling up inside of her she needs to get it off her chest to someone who really cares about how she feels whether or not they are the right feelings. The parents do need to get respect from her as they need to respect her. Goes both ways. A child can't feel comfortable talking to their parents if the parents are constantly denying her of her feelings .. SO THAT I will end this....  

  

would like to chat, know gypsies in New England

 
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September 13, 2006, 9:06 am PDT

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Everyone kept talking about gypsy thing ignoring the real issues and the real issues are the parents lost  control of amanda along time ago they should of stopped the ridiculous behavior when it started because at 14 you are not going to no boys house period. And when amanda first starting acting out some clear boundries should have been setup then. no now that she has run off and starting doing lord knows what because she was on her own. they want to come back and say now i wnat u to have boundaries it is a little too late for that. what is happening now is they have but water on a grease fire. so basically my heart does not bleed for her parents cause like dr phil says life is about choices. so the parents should be looking at themselves real long and hard in the mirror
 
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February 28, 2007, 11:30 am PST

this helped me and my daughter

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 I agree! Especially where they took the cell phone away from her, what did they expect her to do? It seems like they just went looking for even more trouble on top of what they already had. And when she tried to escape from the situation and calm down, they kept provoking her by entering the room. I'm suprised she only kicked them, they really had trouble handling her.

i know amanda and of her family.  i also know of the so called gypsies . basically been there with my daughter,  the best help for my daughter and i was , when i wrote of my experience in my words and how i percieved everything.what i did to find her the pain i felt and the pain and fear i knew she felt. my daughter read this and we both had a very real truly touching and more understanding than ever. try this just writing was releiving but the rest was a bonus

                                                                                                                        good luck to all parents

                                                                                                                        it is not easy ,but it is not easy

                                                                                                                         to be a teen,and in love

 
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