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November 22, 2007, 5:11 pm PST

This problem is as old as time..

You never undermine the love between a parent and their child..You never try to break someones heart because you are too selfish to share love.
She better hope she is not telling lies about his Mother to accomplish it..
One day his Mother will be gone and instead of self rightous resentment there will be pain and guilt to live with.
Possibly a lot directed at her from her husband who will have to bare the burden of hurting his own mother this way.
What goes around will come around..I bet the daughter in law never thought she is teaching her own children the value of a parent and Grandparent.
 
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November 22, 2007, 5:20 pm PST

This problem is as old as time..



You never undermine the love between a parent and their child..You never try to break someones heart because you are too selfish to share love.
She better hope she is not telling lies about his Mother to accomplish it..
One day his Mother will be gone and instead of self rightous resentment there will be pain and guilt to live with.
Possibly a lot directed at her from her husband who will have to bare the burden of hurting his own mother this way.
What goes around will come around..I bet the daughter in law never thought she is teaching her own children the value of a parent and Grandparent.
 
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November 23, 2007, 5:34 pm PST

Someone said the mother in law should "get over it"

You said the mother in law should get a life of her own?
I feel her son is part of her life..So are her Grandchildren.
No parent should have to start over and forget they have spent years loving and careing for a child and be' no' part of thier lives anymore.
It is cruel and unfair.
You say she should "get over it"..(the divorce)..
It sounds to me that she needed love, assurance and some help in doing that..And instead got booted out of the family.
Wanting to share a lttle part of her family's life is not unreasonable, or too much to ask for.
If guidelines need to be set they could all see someone to help them set them.
I'm sorry, kicking Mom/Grandmother out in the cold is unreasonable and cruel.
The daughter in law is very clear in showing that she is not interested in how the mother feels, and has no intention of taking her feelings into consideration or showing compassion..
She is showing no concern for her husband or children..
it is a very selfsih thing she is doing.
Right now the guy I have been with for 12 years. Sees his Mom every day, helps her do things because his Dad has passed away..And I get mad sometimes..But I know to try to stop him is stupid and unfair.What do I really want? A guy with no love or respect for his Mother? A old lady suffering cause she has no help?
I want him to be proud of himself and never have regrets ,cause some day she will be gone..
 
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January 8, 2008, 5:44 pm PST

ip address

We do need laws to protect people from being bullied on line. .We all have a ip address and most of us are not really on line anonymously anyway.
When it effects our reputations and ruins our personal lives and makes us miserable within our own community then it should be handled like any form of harrasment. And people should be charged with a crime.


 
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January 8, 2008, 6:12 pm PST

01/08 Cyber Bullies

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Cyber-bullying aside,  I had a comment about Councillor Sandy and her joke.  I found myself siding with her.
    It's true - in North America, we have lost the ability to laugh at ourselves, although I'm not sure this problem originated with the Government telling us what's funny.  When is it going to come to the point where there is no act that any comedian can present which doesn't offend someone, ANYONE, out there and is therefore censored?
   And some people "feign" offence just for an opportunity to show off moral superiority in a group setting ... especially at someone else's expense, in the hopes of impressing others.  Often, feigning offence is an act by what psychology calls "mind guards" who are the weasels, the lowest common denominator in a group setting, an office, etc., who need to point the morally superior finger, feigning offence, at someone else in order to show off moral superiority in the hopes of increasing their own standing in the group.  Beware of these kinds of bullying people, the melodramatic actors in the group, with nothing of their own to contribute to any light-hearted conversation, other than correcting the word usage of those people contributing to the chat.
    In a former job, I worked with managers where sexual harassment in the workplace was a problem.  The male manager who called me a "Gyno-American" was, in fact, the least trustworthy.  The one who would joke with me, even with politically incorrect humor, in the workplace was one of the few male managers I could actually trust to give me a fair chance.
   Maybe instead of painting everything with a blind, self-righteous politically correct brush, we should all take a step back and use our "critical thinking" skills to ascertain whether the personality and disposition of the person speaking (especially someone we've known for a while, and we should therefore know better) truly reflects a malignant racist.  In most cases, it's likely not true.
     As an example, we had a birthday celebration at work to celebrate the birthdays for the month.  Two managers, self-appointed "mind guards" in the group, feigned offence when I served someone a piece of birthday cake and happily sang, "Here's a piece of cake for the birthday girl!!"  They were offended that I used the word "girl" and, in unison, self-righteously yelled "WOMAN !!!!"
    I'm not a malignant person in the workplace, or elsewhere, and can laugh at myself, but it seems when people do that, they are saying that they think I am the type of malignant person who would mean harm on someone else.  By saying "girl" in "birthday girl," those 2 managers (who actually are the true bullies in the workplace, unfortunately) were saying to me that I would have meant that term in a derogatory, chauvinistic, insulting manner, which I didn't, and anyone who truly knows me would not have thought that.  I'm a woman who does not have my grandmother's life, wouldn't wish the old ways on any woman and sure didn't mean that remark in an insulting, chauvinistic way, but when are we going to lighten up?
    I have to wonder about the "name-callers" who came out of the woodwork who called Sandy all sorts of names, including Dr. Phil who referred to her actions as "idiotic" and THAT'S OK?!   Postings such as, "Your [sic - should be 'you're' an idiot" show the nature, and ignorance, of the name-calling poster, not the nature of Sandy.
    I also have to wonder about Holly, who looked like the kind of self-righteous "mind guard" we've all seen in the workplace and elsewhere, and prefer to avoid as a killjoy, if the truth was really known.  Did she get a feather in her cap at someone else's expense?  For her television appearance, with her perfectly coifed hair and make-up, and an expression of the requisite amount of self-righteous finger-pointing indignation on her face, Holly said she's "shocked ... blown away ... disgusted" ... by a joke.  Oh, please!   Didn't Dr. Phil have a show some time ago about melodramatic people who overuse superlatives?
    And all of the YEARS of work of Sandy are "all for naught"?!    YEARS of hard work removed , forgotten, wiped out by one mere joke for which some may choose to feign offence.  Wow!    This feels like the 1950's and Sandy is about to get blacklisted as a communist except her crime is a "joke" presented with  no ill-will (or guilty mind as the law would state).  That's some level of judgmental self-righteousness from likely a high-maintenance "mind guard" type of person!
    Maybe I didn't like the joke posted by Councillor Sandy either, but she does have a point.  We paint everything with the same blind "politically correct" brush that we've forgotten to look at events below the surface and see the true nature and history of the person doing the speaking, and it's often not presented with the level of malignancy that certain people (mind guards) would like to assume there is, for self-serving reasons of their own.

totally right!~
If we don't stop trying to be so damn polictically correct and worrying about everyone that might have a "issue" we could loose the right to even speak in public.
No matter what the topic 'someone' is going to find somthing in it offensive.
The ability to see the homor that is around us in 'everything' is being lost..
"Offensive" should actually have the intent to 'offend'..
If we don't lighten up, all thats left is to live life stiff and humorless. afraid to open our mouths.
 
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January 26, 2008, 7:33 am PST

PIMPING HIS WIFE

This guy is nothing but a pimp. The fact that it is his wife and he thinks swinging is a great way of life is not relevent. Because she is not willing. He is using her love for him, her love for her family and her fear of loosing him to bully her into somthing he damn well knows is crushing her emotionally.
The fact he sat on the show and pretended to care is discusting..He does not . She said it was just two weeks ago he was badgering her again proves it..He knows what he is knows what he appears to be and didn't want the nation thinking that way about him..He is without a dought selfish and not worth wasting another miniute of her love on.
 
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January 26, 2008, 7:52 am PST

True

Quote From: julie1418

How does what other people do in private destroy YOUR family or YOUR marriage?
What people do in private reflects in many ways on society as a whole.
People in positions where they can influence others can't keep thier beliefs 100% out of the things they say and do..It comes through..So I would have to say that, that is a legitimate statement.
Just take Movies , music and books as the biggest example, They are all a reflection of people's feelings and beliefs..And it is easy to see the influence in just the past 30 years..
What people think and feel and do in private, can change society for everyone.
 
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January 26, 2008, 8:36 am PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Okay, I'll get blasted. I "Don't play well with others " and there are things I just "Will not share " my husband being one of those things, that being said... If my neighbors, my doctor or child's teacher are "Swingers" why is that my business or the Police's business or really anyone's business ? Quite frankly its NOT. It is a lifestyle that has to be AGREED on by both parties BEFORE that paper is signed, if one or the other partner is against it, then you shouldn't sign that paper with them, move on and find a person that shares YOUR views on marriage (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy). Okay, he wants a threesome, you don't, but you're scared he'll leave ? Huh, so he leaves, big deal do you really want to be with someone who bullies you into doing things you are disgusted by ? And what kind of "Man " involves his child in these type of discussions ? If he said he wanted you to help him rape someone or he would leave you, would you do it ? Or would you find the "gonads" to get out and make a life for yourself ? Please, I've heard the arguments before, she has no job skills, go to night school, millions have or are doing it, and courses can be taken online now as well, she has no money, what about spousal support, or a JOB, take something that can help you in your quest to upgrade your skills. Easy, no, nothing worthwhile ever is, but what is more important, your sense of peace and self worth, or his pathetic little ego, call his bluff, and stand on your own. Why does this piss me off so badly ? I see women in Afghanistan and Africa that are FORCED to live in these situations because of lack of opportunities and education, here in the West we are GIVEN the opportunity to stand on our own as independant women, not just an extension of our husbands, and yet when it comes down to it, we still think we NEED the husband to validate us, even if it is to the detriment of our own mental health or that of our children.
Lack of compassion seems to be the way this woman has lived her life with her husband and lack of compassion isn't going to motivate her .
Your strong? Well, 'good for you'!~ I would guess your strong because you have had other people helping you develop that strength.
Sneering at someone because they are emotionally crippled never helped anyone.
She needs a back bone and you, my dear, need a heart.
 
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April 3, 2008, 12:50 pm PDT

school bus's and infection


It is time a school bus was included in the list of places that should be kept cleaner..
I drove a bus for 22 years and you could not believe the things I found in and around the seats that students had been sitting in.
Spit, vomit, food, blood, snot, smaller children soiled the seats sometimes..
Many many drivers never santitize the seats. And students return to sit in those seats day after day without them ever being properly cleaned..
It is illegal to keep anything on the bus to clean the seats with also..So even when those of us that keep the seats wiped down. Had to wait until we were in a place that we could bring cleaning liquids or sprays onto the bus. That would be when no students were or would be present.
Up until we started having problems with super bugs it was just a icky situation for those of us that tried to keep seats as clean as possible..But now with so much at stake there should be more interest in what might be on the seat of the school bus, as well as on a locker or desk inside the school.
 
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April 24, 2008, 5:29 pm PDT

04/24 A Boy in Trouble

I have always heard that people choose people that are functioning at the same level of dysfunction that they are..
Whenever a person is involved in a sick realtionship and stays in it, they could not possibly be functioning at a much higher level, or they wouldn't be there.
It is abhorrent when a parent does not protect their children from this kind of abuse.But denial is so much easier than blowing their lives apart with accusations and then dealing with the consequences.
The daughter was abused..Yet she put her own child in the same situation.
Sick parents raise sick children and have sick realationships..
So as hard as it is for so many of us to understand. The thing we have to understand is this is how it works in sick famlies..
We should just watch and learn.. Maybe as outsiders we might be able to recognize a child in trouble.
 

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