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November 3, 2005, 12:51 pm PST

Dear Nichelle

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

I thought Dr. Phil was very hard on you.  It's all well and good that other families are able to tolerante and cope with a child with a disorder such as this.  The fact of the matter is not everyone is wired the same way.  There are people who simply cannot cope with certain situations.  That does not make you a bad person.  You are a good person for seeking help in dealing with your daughter's disorder. 

  

 I hope you are able to come to terms with your daughter's PWS. 

  

 
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November 4, 2005, 1:04 pm PST

Zero sympathy here

This doctor could have contacted his credit card companies and told them to freeze those accounts.  If he wanted to let his wife shop a bit, he could take a card with a reasonable credit line and only let her use that card. 

  

If the wife went ahead and applied for and got her own cards, fine, let her pay the bills.  What makes this fool pay his wife's bills?  He's enabling her and is a sap.  Tell her to get off her rump and get a job.  What does she do all day besides shop?  I didn't hear her say anything about volunteering at the PTA or some other local cause like a lot of people do.  He whines that his daughter has designer cosmetics but does nothing to curtail her shopping either.  He made his bed, let him lie in it. 

  

I love how the word "bankruptcy" gets thrown around.  This is why the bankruptcy laws were changed.  This rich doctor with a mansion and pool could simply say "i don't have enough to pay for all this" and be free of those debts. What a crock of crap. 

  

Now, the poor apartment-dweller whose medical condition devastated them financially has trouble filing for bankruptcy now because of jerks like this doctor and others who abused their credit for luxuries, filed and are sitting pretty again. 

  

Yes I am bitter.  I am an educator.  My husband works in education as well.  We are devoted to our jobs, save as much as we can and have no credit card or any debt at all.  You know what else?  We'll never have a house.  We can't afford the downpayment.  We've been priced out of the area (working class) that we grew up and work in.  Watching these people, piss away money on jewelry and cars for their kids just makes me sick. 

  

 
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November 9, 2005, 3:05 pm PST

One of the worst things.....

parents can do to their kids is allow them to return home and mooch.  They'll never grow up if they're continually allowed-- as adults-- to sit around the house and live off other people. 
 

The parents with the three moochers have very small children and are being evicted.  They should be enraged that their adult children would put them in this position. 

  

Tabitha should have been called on her snotty attitude.  She has a husband and kids.  Why isn't her husband working and paying rent on an apartment?  Was that even addressed on the show? 

 
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November 9, 2005, 3:11 pm PST

11/09 Next Generation of Moochers

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I did not get to view all of todays' show, but I do agree that our kids of today are not as prepared as we were as kids. We knew that when we finished high school that we were to go to college, get a job and move out and take care of ourselves. We did not know any other way.  

My son for instance is 20 years old is in his 3rd year of college, living at home, working full-time and can't seem to make ends meat. Excuse me, but it is time for him to go out on him own.  

My husband and I struggle with this, because we feel that he may not continue on with college if he has to pay rent on an apartment. I feel that if he so chooses that is his choice.  

He has his privleges, he comes and goes as he wishes. He does his own laundry. We pay the house expenses. We buy the groceries, pay all utilities, but he never offers.  

I guess my confusion is when is enough? 

He works the night shift 5 days a week, goes to school during the day, comes home and sleeps when he can. He does not help around the house, because in actuality he does not have time and when he has free time he is pretty much sleeping.  He goes out for fun when he can on weekends. He has gotten himself into financial debt his first year of college(credit card) and is working to pay this debt off. I admire him for that, but my struggle is, with him at home and not having to pay his own bills,(ie: rent, utilities,food,payments) should we continue to allow him to live at home or are we hurting him more by allowing him to live here. 

We see him spend his extra money on play things, or him going places with friends, which I know he needs to do some of that to vent, but when we don't see him save  his money and he continues to spend it unneccessarily what are we to do? 

I know I sound rambling, but I recently gave him a time limit. I told him that during his christmas break he must find a place of his own. He needs to find out what the real world is all about. He is angry at this, but I told him that he has no respect for his parents house and he thinks he ows us nothing.  I don't expect him to owe us anything, but respect! Clean up after yourself, be a part of the family, participate with the family  when he can and offer assistance when he sees the need. 

He just wants to come and go and not be bothered. He keeps his room a shambles, he hardly ever cleans up after himself(leaving dishes out). He constantly says he has no time? 

I struggle with what to do and how to offer suggestions to my husband. He is afraid that he will drop out of college and work full-time to pay his way if we give him an ultimatim. I feel that he needs that ultimatim. We did it and we did fine on our own. I think he needs to too! 

I could use some advice. 

  

  

You need to write up a contract with your son that details what you will do and what he will do.  Both of you should sign it and keep a copy. 

  

You should give him some chores that he has to do on the weekend if that is the only time he has available.  It can be just a few small chores that are more designed for him to show that he's willing to pitch in as compensation for all that you do for him.  You could also say that he has to put X in the bank per month.   It puts the ball in his court.  He can choose to sign and abide by the agreement that he made or he can go out and do it on his own. 

 
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April 17, 2006, 2:18 pm PDT

With regard to the people actually on the show...

Why are they blocking this kid's face?  Embarrass him,  show him on national television and then bring the kid out and say "What do you think of this?"  Dr. Phil does that to a lot of guests on the show and they say "wow, that's us?  we really look like that?" and then a lightbulb goes off.

 

What scares the heck out of me is that the parents can talk matter of factly about this behavior.  That means that they are well used to it and it's been going on for a very long time.  Why did they not seek help for this kid when he was younger?  That kid is terrifying.

 

If my kid behaved like this one there is no way he would be living in my home.  I would not live in fear.  This whole "but I love him..." stuff from the mother serves no purpose.  We know you love your kid.  All parents do.  But you need to do right by them.  In this case, that's getting him help.

 
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April 17, 2006, 4:52 pm PDT

04/17 Dangerous Kids

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I think that you haven't had the same shoe on as these parents.  Would you kick you kid out because he or she had an illness that keep them from having a normal life???  Or you had a toddler that was biting, hitting and kicking the other kids or was out of control. Would you spank them, do the time out and what ever else to make them stop and didn't work, would you see if they are in pain and acting out or kick them out.  When we give birth to a child, we take care of that child the best that we can.  And if it gets more than we know how to handle, we seek help. Not put them on the street.  Because we love them.

 I did not advocate throwing this kid out into the street.  This boy's problems are entirely out of reach for the parents to deal with.  Would you treat your kid's broken arm at home?  No.  Why not?  Because a doctor is required for such a job.  Well, here is the same situation.  Professionals are needed to deal with this boy.  Dr. Phil even said so.  The parents are in no way equipped to deal with this situation.

 

I said if my kid was like this I wouldn't have him living in my home. I stand by that statement.  I would do whatever I had to to get him help.  Saying boys will be boys and writing off his behavior like the mother did is doing a disservice to the boy.  She needs to stop thinking about how tough this will be on her and do what needs to be done to save that kid.  I'm not saying it's an easy thing to do but all this "but I'll be sad....... my feeeeeeeelings are going to be hurt........" is a bunch of crap.  Grow a spine, stop being selfish and help your kid get better.

 
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April 28, 2006, 2:42 pm PDT

04/28 Dr. Phil's Mooch Squad

It drives me insane that these parents don't seem angry that their kids are mooching pigs.  They're sitting there laughing and smiling while talking about their 20-something adult children.  

   

The mother of the second guest is continuing to pay for everything after her son has stolen from her?  This is just too ridiculous.  

   

Throw them out and let them learn what it takes to survive.  If they have to file bankruptcy, let them.  People like these moochers need to hit rock bottom before they realize that if they don't straighten up they're doomed.  If they think their parents will rescue them, they'll never grow up.  

   

Pity the women who marry these guys.  

 

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