Messages By: kleewalter

I chose "upset" as my emote mood, because the very fact that these subjects are debatable in our society is horrible.  Breastfeeding is a normal part of life, provides the baby with the very best in terns of nutrition, bonding with the mother, security, etc.  While I understand that "hiking up your shirt and flopping it out" is in poor taste, I have to believe that the majority of breastfeeding mothers do not handle it that way.  I breastfed all 3 of my children in all sorts of places...church, the laundromat, Wal-Mart, even an Army Barracks!  In EVERY instance, I was covered at all times.  I have sat in a public place, covered my shoulder with a receiving blanket, and breastfed my child without anyone even noticing!  For the show guest to compare that to someone's low-slung pants showing their crack would be laughable if it weren't so ridiculous.  How can you compare nurturing your infant in the way that God meant for it to be to men urinating in public?!  Even the Third World Countries aren't this backward-thinking.... 

Regarding the condoms in schools thing:  I deeply believe that sex education should be handled in the home.  Schools were originally set up to teach academics...NOT the birds and the bees!  Parents should step up to the plate and keep an open forum regarding sex education with their children.  I have done this with my boys, and I assure you, they discuss these things with me.  When they have questions, they come to me and ask them.  I am smart enough to know that I cannot stop them from having active sex lives, so I teach them that abstinence is best, but if they choose to "go there" that they should practice safe sex.  This may be what the schools are teaching, but I want my children to hear it from me, so I can be sure that they are getting the values I want them to have.  If they only get it in school, what is the chance that they will feel comfortable to ask questions?  With me handling it in the home, my boys felt safe asking any question they may have had.  No subject is ever taboo.  As a result, my boys have a deep respect for the girls they are with, they rarely have sex, and thank God, they have no children of their own NOR have they ever had any STD's!  They are 23, 20, & 17, and I think my track record with them and the results it has yeilded could be an example for the country.  

And don't even THINK of disciplining a child of mine!  That is something that belongs to the parents alone.  There is obviously a measure of discipline that day cares, schools, etc., have to be able to administer, but if the parent is there, then the parent should be the one to handle it.  For anyone else to put themselves in that place sends mixed messages to the child.  Small children grow up thinking everyone can mete out discipline to them, and this is wrong!  If nothing else, how do you know that the way you are disciplining that child is in keeping with the rules that the parents have set forth, thereby creating confusion for the child?   

I think the bottom line is this:  As a society, we have strayed so far from what God originally set in place.  We have become so politically correct that we cannot see the forest for the trees.  God help us! 

"I think the parents that do have a problem with it are the ones who honestly don't discipline their own kids." 

I copied a quote from your entry, because I personally take offense to it.  I have raised my 3 sons without the neighbors or anyone else having to horn in.  For you to make a generalized statement like that is insane.  While it may be true that there are many parents that don't discipline their kids the way they should, the fact remains that there are a great many of us who do, and we don't want "the village" trying to do our job for us.   

Sign me "The Responsible Mother Who Didn't Shrug Off Her Responsibility and Make The Village Do it." 

LETS GET REAL- kids are going to try things- Drugs, Alcohol and yes even SEX. Nothing a parent can do to stop it besides lock thier kids up in the house. Better safe then sorry. 

OK.  Following your "logic" we should also pass out sterile needles and home grown weed to our kids...or at least have it available in the event that they might need it.  I mean, we don't want them using dirty needles or smoking pot laced with God knows what, do we?!!  Your comment that "most parents don't feel comfortable talking nor do the children feel comfortable listening or even having a conversation about sex with their parents" offers parents the easy way out of their responsibility to PARENT their children!  It doesn't make a difference if the child is uncomfortable with it...my kids weren't at first, but eventually, they grew comfortable with it and even came to me with questions and concerns they had.  The key was in me making sure that they knew they could come to me with no fear of getting into trouble about anything they said or asked.  We cannot shirk our responsibilty as parents and leave it to the schools or some back alley group of kids to "educate" our children.  Having the schools hand out condoms without the parents being involved makes about as much sense as having a safe place to get sterile needles in case you want to experiment with drugs!  SHEESH!!!! 

Still the "political correctness" here.....why in the name of God (who started this breastfeeding thing to begin with) do we need a special room for mother's to breastfeed their children?  All that does is placate the whining few who object to a perfectly natural, normal part of taking care of an innocent baby.  If breastfeeding mothers have to be banished to a special room to feed their babies, then in all fairness, bottlefed babies should have to be fed in there as well.  After all, bottlefed babies spit up more than breastfed ones, and I suppose that could make some of these lillie-livered idiots sick to their stomachs too!!! 

While I agree in theory with the general point you are trying to make, I was personally shocked that a "recovering sex and porn addict" is a minister and counselor to "such folk".  In my original post which was around 3 PM today, I pointed out that I was able to publicly breastfeed all 3 of my children in a variety of locations, all without EVER exposing myself.  I did not cover myself because I was ashamed or embarrassed, but I did so out of personal modesty.  (Having a baby is a perfectly normal part of life, but I wouldn't want to be having a baby in public, LOL!)  Having said that, I also would not find it repulsive or offensive if I saw a portion of a breast while a mother was feeding her baby.  I would however, find it in very poor taste for the entire breast to be exposed publicly...again, the modesty thing.   

But...the real reason for my response to your post is the ex-sex/porn addict become minister.  The same Bible that says "all things are lawful unto me, but not all things are expedient" ( I Corinthians 6:12) also directs us that someone who takes care of the Church of God should be meet certain criteria, the first one being BLAMELESS...and also having a good report with them that are without...meaning a good report with them that are NOT Christians. ( I Timothy 3: 1-7)  What in the world are you doing being a minister with that kind of history?!  I could not be a member of your church and have any confidence in your ministry knowing this about you.  Sorry if you feel attacked...that is not my intent.  I am just SHOCKED.  JARRED.   

I read with sadness & empathy the post about the mother who could not breastfeed, although she tried desperately to get help in doing so.  It brought back to my mind my experience after having my first child. We were stationed in West Germany, and my son was born at Landstuhl Army Regional Medical Center.  A young, brand new mother, and half a world away from anyone I knew, I was trying to breastfeed my newborn with no luck at all.  Thank God for the Captain who worked with me and my son, and was able to teach us both how to get started.  I can't remember her name (it's been 23 years ago!) but she was an angel!  I had 2 other children after that, and had no problems at all.  I am so sorry that the original poster did not have the benefit of having someone to be able to help her.  I truly understand that there are many people who cannot breastfeed for one reason or another, and although they are missing out on a really beautiful experience, there is nothing wrong with them doing the best that they can under their own personal circumstances.  NO ONE has a right to fault these people, in my opinion.   

I am betting that Utahnicole is not tiny at all.  I have small breasts, but when I was nursing my babies, I wore a 36DD bra.  Anyone who breastfeeds knows that the breast is larger than normal during that time; common sense will tell you that.  And many times, people DO NOT know that you are breastfeeding, as in my own personal case when I was feeding my firstborn.  We were at the Army Barracks, showing our son off for the first time.  I leff the Day Room, stepped into the hall and put my son on the breast. I then covered myself with a receiving blanket and headed back for the Day Room.  One of the soldiers walked up to me and asked if he could see the baby.  I had to inform him that he was nursing, and this young man was standing directly in front of me!!   

Your "example" of someone providing oral sex under a tablecloth being the same thing as a mother nursing her baby is perhaps the most assinine attempt at a comparison I have read thus far!