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May 23, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

Why does Mr. Hot Pants get off so easily....

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Why should Bettie "get along with everyone"? Her sister had an affair with her husband!!!! Can't you see that it was wrong?  Bettie & her husband need to work this out  between the two of them and the mother & sister need to mind their own business!

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Why does Bettie seem to forgive a husband with apparently a TONNE of issues (uh, your mother in law didn't force you to have an affair. She's not the enemy here) He seems like a real self-righteous, angry dude.

But oh, the mother in law, of course, is interfering. Hmmm, well, maybe Bettie the Martyr ought not to drag her mother in one moment, then scorn her the next. Maybe Bettie needs to get out of denial.

 

 

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:13 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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also her husband is much better since he loves her now and won't cheat. HE HAS CHANGED

Oh, you know that?

 

He seems very, very angry and seems so willing to blame Bettie's mother because it gets him off the hook.

 

Yes, Bettie's mother is pretty stubborn, but Bettie needs to get the chip off her shoulder. Her hubby doesn't seem like a prize.

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:18 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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 This mother is clearly out of control and totally toxic. The couple definitely need boundaries set up. And if it entails breaking off the mother and daughter's relationship, even if temporary, so be it. She is one ugly spirited woman.

Oh, please, she's being made to be "somewhat" the enemy in this situation.

 

She isn't perfect, of course, I just don't buy the games that Bettie (yes, Bettie) is playing. She calls up her mother to ask and plead where John is?

 

Women like her BUG me. Their husbands can do outrageous things to them and they are forgiven like THAT, but they play these games with their own mothers. Oh, Mommy doesn't love me like she loves so and so........whatever, get over yourself, honey..........

 

Your husband messed around on you, and you take him back like that. But Mommy doesn't deserve forgiveness?

Hello? Again, Johnny Boy ain't no prize.

Using your own children against your mother doesn't put you into running for Mother of the Year, Bettie. Wake up!

 

She doesn't fool me.

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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Virginia- Get control of yourself, stop being so selfish and one sided before you loose your daughter and grandchildren because of your immature actions and comments. You really need to butt the hell out of their lives and get on with yours!!!!!! Seriously. You are extremely toxic and a major disaster to this family right now. Dont get me wrong, Bettie and John are not perfect and they have numerous marriage flaws but that is in no way any of your business and when you butt in you only make things ten times worse for everyone. Let them handle it regardless what the outcome is and whether you like it or not.

Bettie needs to stop dragging Virginia into HER toxic relationship with a self-important, smug jerk.

Bettie and John are not perfect? Oh, you don't say?

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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I wouldn't have that mother in my life for all the tea in China.  I don't know why some people feel  just because you share the same DNA you should all spend time together on a regular basis.  Why???  I just don't get it.  Get some supportive friends and make that your family.  Who needs this??  And don't tell me the grandkids,  because that's not worth it for them to see the stress level of their parents soar.

Well, Grandma's not the issue here. John CHEATED. And he's clearly not sorry.

 

I'm tired of all this mother in law bashing. John feels smug and self-righteous because his obedient little wife Bettie has bought into his bull and is in major denial.

 

Bettie, John treated you badly, Mom is just stubborn. Get a grip.

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:38 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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I USUALLY AGREE WITH DR. PHIL.  BUT TODAY,  I JUST DON'T KNOW.  I THINK HE WAS A LITTLE ROUGH ON THE MOM.  IT'S HARD TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR 2 CHILDRENS PROBLEMS.  IT'S ALSO HARD TO CARRY THAT KIND OF SECRET.  I THINK THAT DR. PHIL OVERLOOKED THE IDIOT SAVANT TODAY.  DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT ANYTIME THE DISCUSSION LOOKED LIKE IT WAS TO REMIND HIM OF HIS AFFAIR, HE QUICKLY DIVERTED THE ISSUE ELSEWHERE.  HE RE-DIRECTED THE HOT-SEAT TO THE MOM.  I'M NOT SAYING SHE'S TOTALLY RIGHT.  BUT I THINK THAT THIS IDIOT HAS FOOLED DR. PHIL AND THE THERAPIST.  I THINK  ALLS NOT HAPPY AT HOME WITH THEM TWO EITHER.  DR. PHIL SEEMED TO OVERLOOK THE CLAPPING AND JOYOUS REMARKS FROM THE IDIOT SON-IN-LAW EVERYTIME HE THOUGHT MOM WAS BEING CRITICIZED.  I DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK HE IS CONTROLLING AND ABUSIVE.  I'VE SEEN  THIS BEFORE AND IT'S OBVIOUS EVEN ON THE WIFES FACE.  LIKE I SAID,, I MAY BE WRONG,  BUT I DON'T THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO SEEN DR. PHIL TAKE SIDES TODAY.  SORRY DR. PHIL,,, I THINK THIS IDIOT HAS EVEN YOU FOOLED.  WATCH THE TAPE.  LOOK CLOSELY AT THE CLAPPING FOOL.

I think Mom became 100 percent of the issue, and she's not. Yes, she's stubborn and defensive, etc, but John seems so smug and ANGRY. I think he has some major issues.

 

Maybe he has some issues with his own mother. Why are women fighting over this guy? Ugh!

 
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May 23, 2007, 2:47 pm PDT

05/23 Secret Love: The Aftermath

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Ther's nothing more to say.. you are rite-on.  I know that therapy is a helpful tool, but the part about denial is being overlooked here.  And, you are 100% on target with Bettie's attitude toward her mother.  One minute, she wasn't involved enough, the next, she's meddling.  Maybe if Bettie didn't marry this beauty, she'd never know how terrible her mother is.  So nice when a person marries into a family and blows it all to hell...THEN BLAME THE MOTHER!  I wonder why some marriages stay together, with so much negativity, and others that have so much going for them, break up over much less than this.  Go figure, but I had to tell you how I loved your post.

Well, thank you!

 

Bettie has real jealousy issues with her sister and thinks her mother favours her. She sounded so resentful when she mentioned that fact. Maybe she does? I don't know......didn't see the original show.

 

I am just so TIRED of women treating their men like Gods and their mothers like convenient doormats.

It's beyond sick to sleep around with your wife's SISTER. Especially one that the sister (Bettie) seems to resent so much. That's like putting a knife into a gaping wound and twisting it. It's like a "simple" affair wasn't bad enough, let's bring it to a new level.

I don't think John likes women very much. At least women who will stand up to his bull.

 

Bettie needs a wakeup call.

 
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October 4, 2007, 4:46 am PDT

10/03 Mama Drama

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I just want to say that Megan is such an unattracvtive young woman, and I am not even talking about her physical appearance or rather the way she expresses herself. She lacks class, charm, depth, sensitivity...
Well, Megan seems rather empty and ugly on the inside. Mean, what a cold, mean, unfeeling little brat.
 
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October 4, 2007, 4:54 am PDT

10/03 Mama Drama

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Megan,

I registered on this message board today just to let you know that you really touched me!  I think you are simply beautiful and extremely talented.  Your story touched me because I felt used and abandoned by my mother and I would have described my mother very similar to the way you described yours.  Today I am married and the mother of 5 children aged between 13 and 25.  My daughter is 19.  Thing is, at my point in life, I know that when you hate people as much as you seemed to hate your mother (because I too could have cared less whether my mother was alive or dead), the negative attitude is really detrimental to you and all your future relationshipsthat includes coworkers, bosses, neighbors, friends, family, spouse, and children.  I am still working through my issues so that I can have the best relationship possible with my own children and spouse.  I've lightened up on my mother because I think she did do the best she could at the time (even if she was not as good a parent as I think she should have been) and I live my life my own way.  You owe it to yourself to work through your feelings and come to some kind of peace so you can enjoy your life to the fullest.  I would love to hear more of your music!!  Take it one step at a time.  Im rooting for you!

Wishing you peace and recovery,

Cindy

I will save my best wishes for those children who really suffered, not selfish, mean, spoiled prima donnas like Megan who IMAGINE themselves victimized. She should be grateful she has a mother who loves her despite her being a cold, unfeeling little brat.

I don't think a dumb little song Megan wrote in a drug-induced faze after her latest boyfriend got high and dumped her is reason enough to feel for Megan's so-called pain. The little girlie doesn't even know what REAL sadness is.

Pfffttt to laughably bad teenage angst. Oh the tragedy of it!!!

 
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October 4, 2007, 5:02 am PDT

10/03 Mama Drama

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I am 36 yrs old and my mom is still trying to run my life. She is currently raising my daughter and she has told me that since she has screwed up with me she's going to try and do it right this time. But I can see it happening all over again. She calls me and reminds me every month that I have to pay her for something that we agreed she would get for me. She fusses at me that I don't tell her every little thing that is going on in my life. I have just gotten to the point that I just don't call anyone. I wish I had my mom that I had when I was little. I know I'm not a perfect angel but I have grown up and I think I do things the right way. But the way I feel it will never be good enough for her ever.

Well, she IS raising YOUR child, so how much responsibility are you taking? Oh, I guess it just sounds cool to say you are mature and in control of your life. Isn't your mother such a monster? (that's sarcasm)

 

Maybe it's time to grow up and show some maturity.

 

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