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November 10, 2005, 12:48 pm PST

Dealing with infedelity

I have been married for almost 6 1/2 years.  My husband started having an affair a month before we were married.  That affair went on for over a year.  He chose to end the affair and stay with me.  He changed jobs and then finally quit talking to her.  Almost 3 years ago I found out he was talking to her again (by then we had moved across the country to the opposity coast).  He still goes to the West Coast to see his son.  I asked him to quit speaking to her as it hurt me and was the most hurtful thing he could continue to do.  He said he would stop.  Well, I found out recently that he is still talking to her and even had lunch with her recently when he went out to see his son.  She is now marrried, again,(she was then too, but left her husband thinking mine would leave me) and told my husband that her current husband knows all about him.  I don't think they are sleeping together again, but I still feel very cheated on.  Of all the people in the world that he could choose to still be friends with, I believe that this woman (a polite thing to call her) is the last person he should choose.  I don't know what to do.  We have two small children (2 and 3) and I only work part-time and am thousands of miles from my family.    I do know my husband loves me, but he doesn't think about my feelings like he should.  He was raised by a very selfish mother who didn't teach him to show any one respect (nor did she give him any).  I don't think he really understands.  He's highly eduacted, well-employeed, but sometimes just doesn't get it.    I can't leave, but I don't know what to do.  I guess I just needed to vent a little.  Thanks for listening.
 
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November 10, 2005, 2:22 pm PST

Be happy

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Reading the posts have made me really think.  Just last weekend I got so mad at my husband because he plays golf  ALOT and I feel ignored.  I am expecting our first child and I know that our alone time is on the downward spiral. 

My husband is as honest as can be, if he is going to be late coming home from work he calls, when he goes out with friends he is always where he says he is going to be,  he has a long commute everyday, so he always emails me from work so I know he got there safely. 

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about being a "golf widow" when I see what some of you ladies have to live with. 

Don't feel sheepish.  Be happy.  But, let your husband know you'd like to spend more time with him now.  When the children come, your time with your husband diminishes even more.  He needs to focus more time on you right now so that it's a habit when the kids do come.  Plus, he needs to be there more for you and the children when they come.  If he's not there now, who's going to help you when you need it with the baby?  Let him know you love him and you know he loves you, but make the changes now before it does get to be a problem.
 
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November 10, 2005, 2:35 pm PST

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If you are willing to turn a blind eye to what he is doing and doing to you, at least do this: 

  

First make a list, decide how much money you are going to need to start anew, and start saving money. DO NOT TOUCH THIS MONEY NO MATTER WHAT.  

  

SAVE SAVE SAVE!  

MONEY IS POWER! 

  

Once you have enough money to start over, make a decision: Stay or leave! 

  

If you decide to remain in the marriage, continue to save save save. The next time if anything comes up AND you want to leave you have the means. No excuses. 

  

Good Luck! 

If you were talking in response to me.  Thanks.  I have started putting money aside.  Right now I don't have enough nor am I in a position to go.  We are talking of moving again, this time to the midwest (job related) which would make it less expensive for me to live and be closer to my family (still several hundred miles, but not over a thousand anymore).  I figure if things don't change soon, I'm going to have to get out, but I do need to be prepared.  I'm beginning to get things going to start doing that, but it is a slow process.  I know my husband loves me, of that I have no doubt, it's just that I also know he doesn't understand love and respect as it should be.  His mother cheated on his father (who divorced her), but he (my husband) obviously didn't learn anything from it.  All I can ask for is prayers that I can turn his life around (I've made a lot of progress on other fronts with him) and get him to realize how much he hurts me and how much he will be hurting the children as they get older if he doesn't change.
 
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November 10, 2005, 3:22 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I was and you're welcome. 

  

Do not touch your saved money for anything in this world and definitely not for this next move. That money is your lifeline. Continue to save, no excuses. 

  

You can not change him. Don't kill the messenger. YOU CAN NOT CHANGE ANOTHER WOMAN'S CHILD, HIS FOUNDATION IS SET. 

  

Whatever! Believe what you want. Continue to save save save for the sake of your children. 

I know I cannot change what his Mom did.  The hard part for me, is that I still love him.  No matter how mad I get (and I do) and no matter how much I feel like I hate him at times, I still love him.  However, you are right.  I have to save and I have to take stock of me.  Something I haven't been doing til lately.  As I get closer to 40 (only a couple of years), I realize that I can't live the rest of my life like this.   I waited til I was 31 before I got married because I wanted it to be the right guy.  I knew on our first date he was the one for me.  It's just later that things got complicated and confusing.  I'm not a proponent of divorce and that's why this is so hard for me.  I waited so long because I never wanted to be divorced.  Now it's just tough.  SO, all I ask is for prayers that things will work out the way they are supposed to.  I know God has a plan for me and will make things go His way.  Thank you.
 
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November 10, 2005, 4:38 pm PST

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You know for the past 2 years since my wife cheated on me I have just wanted to die.  I never thought that she would do this to uor family.  We were very young when we got married but we were very much in love.  after 5 years she went outside our marriage.  I was devestated and have been extremely depressed.  about 6 months ago she done it again and I am even more depressed.  Today she tells me she wants a divorce.  I don't know how to handle it because I have devoted everything to her.  I am here because I need help.  I have been thinking about suicide all day and just can't steer myself away from it.  This is the hardest thing that a person could go through.
Call a suicide prevention line immediately.  Do not consider suicide for your sake and for your children's.  It hurts a lot right now, but life is worth living.  You have young children who need you and will miss you if you do something that would be regretable.  NEVER consider suicide as a solution.  Please call the prevention hotline now.  It may help just to talk to someone who doesn't know you or your wife.  An outsider can give you a better perspective.  Also, maybe you should find a church or a clergyman (if you don't have one) that you can talk to.  God has a plan for you and dying by your own hand is not it.  God Bless you and take care.
 
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November 10, 2005, 5:15 pm PST

Lots of Lemon flavored food

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My husband cheated for 8 years.He also had a drug problem.I finally left for 3months.He said he has changed and i believe him .Now it is 2 years later and he has done a complete360. He has changed every aspect of his life;no drugs, no drinking , is climbing the latter at work, he has healthier and more ambitious friends, he comes home every nigt at a decent hour, no more parties on the weekend he even moved 300 miles away from all the bull. We never really talked about the whole truth, so I can't  put it behind me. Now he says its too late to talk about it and just wants to move on but sometimes  flirts too much. My truth is this , to leave is not as easy as it sounds. one income cannot support one household anymore.I tried but had to come back so the children could survive and i also belive he couldn't get off so easy. I lived the life of a single struggling mother it's not better and chances are the second guy will turn out to be a creep.I am a product of a broken home every day i wished my father hadn't left us. The truth is never as easy as it sounds.No one will every be the night in shinning armour for 50 years. they WILL mess up and WILL evolve into completely different people than when you met. I guess the trick is to not only be able to make lemonade with lemons but also lemon bars, lemon cake, lemon pie and even salad sometimes.
You are so very right about it being hard to leave.  I believe that's what a lot of us are dealing with.  Camille is not an exception, unfortunately, I believe she is part of the majority of us.  I'm saving money and contemplating leaving, but it really isn't that easy.  Especially when you have two small children.  There are so many things I do love about my husband, it's just the infedelity that kills me.  I know leaving him would wake him up, but how much damage would it do to the kids and to me?  How much damage am I doing by staying?  Life isn't so black and white.  There is so much gray that everything begins to look muddy at some time.  Maybe if we could all make Lemon flavored foods out of our "lemons" we'd feel better.  Just a thought.
 
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November 10, 2005, 7:24 pm PST

Thank you

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Thank you for validating my feelings. Sometimes it is hard to get these rollercoaster emotions validated, and I believe only a person who has been there can really give these emotions true validation. It feels so good to be able to talk about this to someone who truly understands.

Thank you.  I think this is the stage I finally am at.  I'm trying to heal myself and figure out who I am again.  I'm not just somebody's wife or somebody's mother, but I am an individual.  We can all talk about leaving or we can talk about finding ourselves and either working out our problems or getting out.  Divorce isn't always the solution.  Lots of marriages can be saved.  Can mine?  I don't know.  I'm still working on that.   

 
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November 13, 2005, 12:26 pm PST

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I sounds like you and I have gone through similar situations and are at about the same place as far as "recovery".  What are the things that you still struggle with the most, and what has helped you the most.  Some days this struggle seems tougher than others.  It helps to hear from some one who is also going through it.
I struggle with my emotions most of all.  I feel deflated so much.  Somedays when things are going well, I wonder why he does the things he does.  Other days, I just want out.  My husband travels a lot (he's in sales), so sometimes that makes it easier too.  I just pretend that I don't care if something is going on.  I act like I'm just a single Mom.  Sometimes that makes me realize that I can do it.  The tough part for me, is I know I need his income right now.  I work part-time (as my children are still small) and don't make enough to support the three of us.  I finally got the nerve up the other day to tell him I felt like a single mom with a husband and I didn't know if I could take it anymore.  I told him I was going to start working on finding who I am.  If he doesn't like it, too bad.  He might find I can do just fine without him.   Maybe that's what needs to be done.  My biggest problem is I love my husband.  That's my struggle.  Please feel free to discuss with me more.  Thanks.
 
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November 13, 2005, 5:43 pm PST

Sounds like we are alike

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Our stories are incredibly similiar.  My husband is also in sales and like you said sometimes his traveling alot is helpful.  I also think of myself as a single mom especially when I am feeling the most vulnerable and wonder if he has really ended the affair.  It does help me to distance myself so I can assure myself that if I do find out he is up to his old habits, I can stand on my own, but it is a double edged sword because I am distancing myself from him so much that it is making it difficult to work through my anger.  It would help alot if he didn't take the attitude that I just need to get over it.  Don't you just feel like you are stuck on the most nauseating fair ride of your life and you just want to get off?  Like you said, there is a big part of me that loveshim.  He is the only man I have ever been with.  But there is a big part of me that is so hurt and I am VERY unforgiving.  The biggest issue is that he is a good father and I know no matter what goes onbetween he and I, he will always be my kids father and their happiness comes first.
Boy does it sound like we're married to the same kind of person (for the most part).  I've had several years to deal with this, but it still keeps coming up and slapping me in the face.  Each time I think she's gone away and I can move on, I find that she's still in the picture.  I think I read in a previous quote from you that your husband doesn't like for you to "harp" on it.  Well, ditto - in those exact words.  He doesn't want to talk about it, nor does he want to hear about it.  He says whenever I bring it up, it "pushes him away from me".  I tell him he's already pushed me.  I just don't understand why he insists on continuing to talk to her.  Even if nothing is going on, he should have NOTHING to do with her.  His traveling lately has been the best for me right now.  It gives me that space away from him to figure myself out.   He loves our children, but he doesn't help much with any of the day to day stuff.  EVERYTHING is my responsibility.  He brings home the money - everything else is my job.  That's why I think I'm beginning to lose it.  If that's the way this marriage is going to continue, then I'll have to do it from my own home without him.  Anyway, thanks for listening.  If you want to talk more off the board, let me know and I'll make my email available for you to get.  Take care.  We will get through this.  Women are much stronger and can make things work much better than most men.   (Except Dr. Phil, of course!  :-)  )
 
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November 15, 2005, 7:11 pm PST

keep in touch

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I think it would be good for both of us to keep in touch. At least for me it helps to know that there is someone who is going through and has gone through a situation so remarkably similiar  to my own.  You can reach me on yahoo at the same e-mail name.

you can email me at aandcs_mom@yahoo.com 

  

I'm having a good day, so we'll go from here.  Talk to you soon. 

 

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