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February 3, 2006, 5:13 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

Quote From: vendros

Thank you elffie.  I agree both sides are getting out of hand...but I will say this: I have NEVER ONCE said monogamy is wrong.  Whatever floats your boat should be the way of life....unfortuately, that is rarely the case.  Some ppl need to calm down(including me) and try to view this in other's point of view.

Vendros,  at the risk of looking like I'm picking on you, because that is not my intention, I have to ask you a question regarding the above quoted post.  Do you really want to live in a world where "whatever floats your boat" is the way of life?  Thank God that is not the case.  Crime is bad enough as it is.  

  

Why do you so badly want us to see your point of view on this?  Do you need that to validate yourself somehow?  You shouldn't need our acceptance of your lifestyle to feel validated.  You don't agree with the fact that I live by God's word, but that doesn't make me feel less of a human being.  No matter how hard you try, you are not going to get any true Christian person to concede and see your point of view just to be "nice".  I'd rather be called a b*tch and stick by my morals and values then "go with the flow" just to be a "nice" person.   

  

Let me also ask you this Vendros.  Do you believe that murder is wrong??  Do you believe that stealing is wrong?  Without speaking for you, I'd venture to guess that you do because you seem like a decent person.  Why do you believe those things?  Do you think they are something that were just made up by man?  No, they are God's law.  If you believe that stealing is wrong and that murder is wrong then you believe in God's word and God's law.   

 
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February 4, 2006, 3:40 pm PST

So when exactly was it taped?

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The affair has ended......remember the show was taped some time ago..........Thanks so much for all of your positve emails to me and Tracy..............
Charles,  you keep saying to remember the show was taped some time ago.  Exactly what was the exact date the show was taped on?
 
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February 4, 2006, 7:54 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

Quote From: vendros

Then tell them to lighten up on me and quit calling me or my lifestyle immoral, dirty, filthy, and sinful.  I am highly offended by that, as any human being would be.  If I seem a bit of an harda**, it is because I am very passionate of who I am and take affront to those who think I am wrong and sinful and dirty for being who I am.  How would you like it if it was done to you?
Vendros, you are simply amazing.  You want everyone to let up on you so you can continue to hammer us over the head with your immoral lifestyle.  We Christians are also very passionate about what we believe in and are tired of sexual deviants trying to shove their sinful "alternative lifestyles" down our throats.  We have just as much right to voice our opinions as you do.  You just continue to be irate because you haven't been able to get one Christian here to concede and agree with you. 
 
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February 4, 2006, 8:02 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

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-.-.  When did this turn into a preaching session.  Remeber, not ALL of us are Christians, so Hell and Heaven do not apply here.  We were not created, we evolved, which science and logic proves.  I am not trying to bash you or anything, but such blind faith is scientifically proven to be unhealthy.  If one was given free will, why do you base YOUR judgments on a fictional book?
Just because you are not a Christian doesn't mean hell and heaven don't apply.  They apply all right and believer or not, you will find that out some day, whether you think you will or not.  Please stop with your "scientific" BS, too.  Why don't you show us some proof of your constant rhetoric.  I've seen many documentaries on the power of prayer, faith, belief and religion and their affects on health.  As for your ridiculous comments about the bible, there is a reason it is the most widely published and distributed book ever.
 
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May 3, 2007, 8:11 pm PDT

I've lived this before......

All I can say is OH MY GOD........I sat and watched this show today with  my heart in my throat, ready to throw up in my lap. My former MIL and FIL were just like this pair I saw today. I sat and watched this show and completely relived my past all over again.

 

My ex-husband was a drunken, heartless jerk and when I left him, my MIL actually said to me, "We'll see who gets _______(insert my sons name there) you or me".  And that was exactly what she set out to do.  All during my short marriage and after I left her son, she could never get me to buckle under to her and let her control me and so I was always punished for it. After I left her son, I had 7 years of PURE HELL, fighting for custody of my OWN CHILD against my ex in-laws.  My ex MIL impersonated me at my sons clinic to get a daycare form signed for when "she got custody of my son". She went to my childs doctor and told them I was starving him!  The things I could tell you.........I could go on and on for days.  When my son would go there to visit, she would immediately change his clothes when he came through the door because my clothes, which were brand name btw, weren't good enough.  She would cut his hair without my permission in a style that SHE preferred. She would hide my sons stuffed animals and toys that he brought with him.  She would NEVER allow my son to speak to me on the telephone, even during 2 week long summer visits.  It was horrible.  Those people did SO much damage to my son.  THANK GOD, when he was 7 his father's right were finally taken away and I found a therapist and a judge who would FINALLY listen to my son and not everyone else involved.  The grandparents visits were eventually stopped, too.  Thankfully, my son is now a happy and healthy 22 year old with no recollection of those dark days.

 

And to anyone who thinks the judges and the "system" will help.  I say, GOOD LUCK!  I had SO many corrupt judges for nearly 7  long years.  Male judges that sided with my ex simply because they thought he was the poor discriminated against father. Judges that heard over and over the things that he and his family did to harm my son and they STILL continued to give him visitation. My ex in-laws also came up with crap over and over that they said my son supposedly told them about me.  It was all lies. I need to remember to continue to thank God every day for finally rescuing my son from those people.  I shudder to think what kind of person he would be today had he grown up with them.

 

The whole time Randy was sitting in the audience, I just kept thinking he was exactly like my ex FIL.  SO filled with hate because he can't control his ex DIL  and the entire situation.  He totally strikes me as a control freak, not a caring and loving grandfather.  He only seems to care about winning, NOT about what's best for his granddaughter.  I wonder if he's ever even asked his GD if she wants to leave her mother and live with them.  From what I saw on the tapes on the show, those girls don't look like they want to leave their mother. 

 

As to what they are saying about Michele and her actions at home in front of her children.  NONE of what they said made sense to me.  I was so glad when Dr. Phil said he likes to tear things like that down or however he put it.  Let's say Michele was so desperate for money that she had to prostitute herself out, which I don't believe she did, WHY in the world would she come home and say anything about it to her girls???  That made absolutely NO sense to me.  And the My Space thing.......having a My Space page doesn't make you a bad parent.  While I would not care for her having naked pictures of herself on there if she did, and I don't think she did, it's not like she's sitting there showing her My Space page to her kids and discussing it with them!  I think these in-laws are just LOOKING for things to pin on her, grasping at whatever bit of dirt they can come up with.  Mine did the same thing to me. 

 

To the in-laws, for what good it will do, PLEASE just stop your hatred of your DIL!!  STOP IT NOW!  For the good of your grandchildren, PLEASE put your hate aside and go on with your lives.  Your DIL seems like a decent and loving mother to me.  I'll tell you the same thing I told my ex in-laws.  You've raised your child/children!  If you want more then adopt some, but LEAVE this poor woman and her children alone.  You are DAMAGING these children. 

 

To Michele, I have lived what you are living and I made it through.  Just keep fighting for your kids and don't give up. I'll be praying for you and your children.

 

Blessings,
Lisa

 
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May 3, 2007, 8:19 pm PDT

05/03 Lay Down the Law

Quote From: happymommy67

Those grandparents need a hobby!  Mind your own business. Grandparents need to be part of a support system not a constant sorce of friction.

 

I'm sorry that everyone doesn't have my in-laws.  We are buying the house next door to them. We move in May 25th.  So who thinks I'm crazy and going to end up on Dr. Phil's show????

 

 

I'm really happy for you actually. I just posted about my first in-laws from hell, but my MIL I have now, I call her Mom.  I love her to death. She's not right next door to us, but just a 3 minute walk down the road.  Congrats to you and enjoy your new home.  :o)

 
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May 4, 2007, 6:15 am PDT

05/03 Lay Down the Law

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I don't see why the grandparents are painted as the villians on this show.  From the first moment of the show, their ex-daughter-in-law  constantly drowned them out, would not let them back up their accusations with anything because she completely dominated the discussion.  And what I get from that is that she is protesting waaaaaaay too much if she really has done nothing wrong.  People who are innocent do not protest their innocence with such vehemence.  They have no need to over defend themselves.  I suspect that she had to drown out her in-laws because she was afraid they would actually get two words in edge-wise which might back up their claims.  So before they could even get that far, she flounced off the show in a clever ploy to divert the whole discussion away from talking about her  lifestyle or whether or not their claims about her were true.  I have only seen this kind of thing when someone is guilty as sin and wants to cover it up.  Believe me, I've had experience with a real sociopath and this is their typical tactic for covering their tracks.  I would love to have seen the daughter-in-law's My Space page but by now I'm sure she's purged it of anything incriminating.
I totally and completely disagree with you. Michele was forced to "over defend" herself.  She was on national TV being accused of all sorts of things from drug abuse to being some kind of sexual deviant in front of her children.  What was she supposed to do, sit there and nod her head like it was all true?  Also, SHE tried to speak over and over, but her big mouth FIL wouldn't stop yelling at her.  As a matter of fact, who did Dr. Phil threaten to remove from the room?  The FIL, not Michele. And again, when Michele's friend tried to speak, she couldn't get a word in edgewise, either. She finally left the stage because she wasn't going to subject herself to those two any longer and I actually thought BRAVO!  I thought it was a very healthy move on her part.  And speaking of sociopaths, why did the MIL keep calling her granddaughter her "daughter"??  I think this woman has become so delusional that she actually thinks it IS her daughter.  If she wants more children, why doesn't she go adopt some and leave Michele alone!
 
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May 4, 2007, 12:34 pm PDT

05/03 Lay Down the Law

Quote From: tannlacey

 Wow, I am so sorry that you had to live that way. That woman is clearly not playing with even half a deck, much less a full one. Good for you for not backing down, and for making sure that your son's needs were kept first, despite how easy it would have been to act spiteful and vengeful.
All the best.....
tannlacey.
Thank you Tannlacey.  I'd go through it all over again to save my son if I had to. 
 
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September 15, 2007, 12:27 pm PDT

Heidi needs to MYOB!

I see a lot of posts here about what a great friend Heidi is.  I am seeing something exactly opposite and I'm truly surprised Dr. Phil didn't see it this way, too. First, Dr. Phil kept referring to Heidi for insight into the situation.  At one point he said something to that affect and let her speak.  Right off I thought, "Who the heck is Heidi?  Is she a therapist?  Why would he be asking HER for her insight on the situation". Second, Heidi used to live with Amy and Brandon.  She refers to herself as "family", but to me it wasn't in a way that just describes the closeness of the relationship, in her mind, but to the fact that I think she really feels she is family.  She is not family.  She is a friend. Heidi almost acted like those kids were hers. Amy has parents, siblings and other extended family.  It would be their place, foremost, to step in on behalf of those kids, NOT Heidi's. The way I see it, Heidi wants her "family" back and will do anything to ensure that she gets Brandon out so she can get back in. Her attitude and actions were way over the top. She totally came across like "Do you want to be my friend?  Then you do what I say". I think SHE is a very big part of why Amy can't seem to even think for herself. I think she is toxic to that whole situation and I can totally see why Brandon did not want her there.  I wouldn't have either.

 

I think Amy and Brandon both have some learning, growing, maturing and healing to do. I don't think Brandon is a lost cause.  I actually felt sorry for him.  Who knows what hell and horror he grew up with. He obviously was making an effort to even come to the show.  If he didn't want to change, I doubt he would have been there on national TV. At the end of the show, Heidi made a snide comment about Brandon's tears not being real.  How cruel, cold and heartless can you get?  I was tearing up when Brandon was crying. That's how a caring person reacts when you see another person pained. She really acts like she is perfect and without faults.

 

Please Heidi, do Brandon, Amy and THEIR children and family a favor and butt out. 

 
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September 10, 2008, 6:17 pm PDT

I feel like I'm doomed....

I have been fighting my weight for nearly 25 years now. I can't seem to get off this rollercoaster. Last year I lost 75 lbs. and was 15 lbs. from my goal and then I fell off the wagon and have already gained back 40 lbs. I don't know how to do this and keep it off. I've read Dr. Phil's book and I guess I still just don't get it. I'm thinking of resorting to just never ever touching sugar or any of the bad stuff ever again. People say this is unrealistic, but a drug addict doesn't have an occasional hit and an alcoholic doesn't have a weekend drink so why should a person with an eating problem have an occasional treat? I don't know how I should be looking at this whole problem anymore, but I feel this may be the only way. I'm so sick and tired of being controlled by food.  :o(
 

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