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September 7, 2005, 7:14 am PDT

I agree with your boyfriend

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My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 9 years.  He has a 13 year old son.  For the upmost part, he is a good boy – he just doesn’t pick up after himself.  I have led myself to believe this is probably in good part because of his mother doing every thing for him.   

 

  

 

I have never really said much to him.  It is hard to have conversations with him because I find he either just ignores me or mumbles a response.  This has led me to stop trying to make conversation with him.  I feel he is just uninterested in anything I have to say.  I know that he doesn’t like me – he has told family members that he would like to see his father with someone else.  I hate to ignore him.  The only things that I find myself saying to him are: “yes, please, thanks, no problem”. 

 

  

 

I am tired of hearing my boyfriend freak out at me for ignoring him.  I tell him that the boy can talk to me too – conversation does go both ways.  All he says is “you are the adult and he is the child”.  Shouldn’t children be taught to make conversation?  He says nothing to me, no hello or even a goodbye. 

 

  

 

Is there any advice that someone can give to help me try to make this work? 
You are the adult, and you should be the one initiating the conversations.  Ask him about school, about activities, hobbies, favorite tv shows.......anything to show an interest in him and make him feel like you really CARE about him. Right now, your actions are telling him that he's an inconvenience and an interruption to your life.
 
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September 18, 2005, 8:14 am PDT

Step-Parenting

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My husband and I have married 1 year ago when my son, who lives with us, and his daugher, who lives with her mom and her new husband, were 5 years old. SInce the wedding, my husband always yells at my son. You can see that he loves his daugher, but hates my son. My son is not like all the boys - he is more quiet, loves to play with small stuff instead of with big cars; and that makes my huband crazy. It does not really matter what my son does, for my husband he always does it wrong! I tryed to talk to my husband millions and millions of times, but all I get is "your son needs a discipline, but you are making an idiot from him". He can yell at me infront of my son, but when I tell him to shut up, he tells me "You see, every time I want to educate your son, you are trying to work as an advocat. Do you think  your son is going to respect me later???".  

I'm just tired of that. I don't know what to do... 

Sounds to me as if some family counseling might be in order, ASAP. Stepfamilies can be difficult to navigate, especially for parents with preconceived ideas about how boys or girls SHOULD act. Every child is an individual, and should be respected for who they are, not degraded because they aren't behaving like a "normal" boy or "normal" girl.  
 
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November 19, 2005, 8:34 am PST

Be the deputy, not the sheriff

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so how do we deal with our step kids when we are the ones with them most of the time?  What I mean is my hubby (their dad) is the disciplinarian and that is what their relationship is becoming mostly cause it is becoming "wait til your father gets home" and then after working all day he has to come home to deal with a problem or situation that happened hours ago or sometimes even a day before if he comes home too late...I have tried to ask their mom for help and though she says they should respect me and listen to me she also feels I shouldn't discipline them.  I am afraid that the kids don't respect me or are treating me badly cause they know I don't have power and also just because they can get away with it! I am at my wits end and now I don't make any decisions -- if they want to go to a friends house it has to be discussed with daddy beforehand or they can't go cause I don't think it is fair for them to walk all over me getting me to let them do the things they want to do but not correct them when they are wrong. 

  

Dr. Phil also says that "people treat you the way that you let them" so where did I go wrong with my step kids that they don't treat me right?  BTW, the kids are stepdaughter age 16 and stepson age 13 and I met them at ages 3 & 5 when they lived with their mom.  They came to live with us 5 years ago and we have a 4 year old son and a 2 year old daughter as well. 

  

Thanks in advance.  Advice is appreciated. 

Dr Phil says stepparents should be the disciplinarians, but that doesn't mean that they can't enforce the rules set down by the parents, and use the known consequences.  In our house, there are a list of rules on the refrigerator, along with the consequences for breaking each of those rules. Since they are known to everyone in the household, there has never been any problem with my husband saying to one of my children "You broke this rule, so now you have this consequence." If something happens that isn't covered under one of the rules, and I'm not there to set a consequence, then the child is removed from the rest of the family to a safe place for a specified amount of time, which varies with the age of the child, and I set any further consequences when I am there. 

  

You need to expect them to treat you with respect, and you and Dad need to set up consequences for any time that you are NOT treated with respect by them. 

 
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November 19, 2005, 8:52 am PST

Why rush it?

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ok im a 13 yr old teen......ive never done anything wrong in my life like drugs and stuff.....but anyways my mom wont let me date or even have a "BOYFRIEND" and this really cute boy wants to go out with me but shes doing everything in her power to make me unhappy.....she asks me why do u even want a bf and i promised her that i wouldnt let him touch me and i wouldnt have sex and i kno the consequences.......someone please help me!!!my mom wont budge at all and im really upset with her because she lied to me..........
I agree with your mother. You're not emotionally mature enough for dating at 13...none of my children are allowed to date until they are at least 16. And I don't see anything about when/how she lied to you, so I can't comment on that part of your post.
 
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November 19, 2005, 9:03 am PST

Teen Dating

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 I just felt like replying to the main topic on dating with teens.
I'm soon to be 19 in about 4 months. I think that you kind of just need to let teenagers do their own thing, if you set a "certain age limit" on your teen then they'll just feel like being a rebel and go behind your back and date anyway.
I was told by my grandparents (i never lived with my parents until now) that i wasn't allowed to date until i was sixteen. Of course i didnt listen, i dated a few guys, met my "first love" when i was 15 and lost my virginity.
The point of me bringing up virginity and age...all goes to the fact that teenagers will do what they do, and what they want, especially if they really want to date and parents say no, or not unitl you are this old. They will go behind your back and date anyway, which will obviously lead to further things, the most you could do is just trust your child, give them the "alright you can date" but set a lot of rules and they'll definitely follow those as opposed to not being able to date at all, and they'll see it as, well they trust me to date so i'll definitely do what i'm told so i can date. if they make mistakes get heartbroken, be there for them, tell them to talk to you about anything, and even if they do mess up and do something you really dont aprove of, dont scream and holler at them but help them through it, it's one of those things they need to learn on their own, and will probably stop at nothing just to date and of course something is bound to happen....but at least you will be there when it does.
Start off by mentioning group dates , especially if you really dont want your child to date yet or at least just your son/daughter and their "significant other", nothing ever happens on group dates  but the group of kids having fun... joking, watching movies, eating at a resturaunt or what not, when there's a group of people it's easier for everybody to not be shy, they become closer friends and nothing can go wrong when there are many people together such as "comfort levels" being tested.
 

I'm sorry that you had so little respect for yourself and your grandparents that you couldn't see the need to follow the rules and to understand that they only wanted what was best for you. I didn't date till I was 17 and was a virgin till I was nearly 20...because I respected my parents and their wishes....and my children respect my role as their parent, and my responsibilty to keep them safe and protected until we decide together that they can take on certain responsibiliities for themselves.
 
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November 19, 2005, 9:11 am PST

Teen Dating

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My son is 14 years old and his girlfriend lives 4 hours away.  He wants to go there for Thanksgiving and his girlfriends aunt will take him, but I don't know if I should let him.  I think Thanksgiving is a family time, and I know that he will be gone enough when he is older.  Am I too old fashion?  I know it is only for a day and he says he sees us all the time (a typical teenage answer).  What should I do?
At 14, none of my children were dating, but at that age, they would have stayed with family for holidays. If they were seeing someone who lived in the same town, we would find a way for them to spend part of the day together, AFTER our family time...and we often have done that with our 16 or 17 yr olds. Once they are 18, then it's up to them to decide where they want to spend their holidays, IMO.
 
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November 29, 2005, 6:21 am PST

Why not give it a try?

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Thank you for your response, unfortunately it does not apply in this situation as all grandparents live in other states to us.  We have no family in the state we live in and they dont tend to make plans that cant involve the kids on the weeks they have them so I dont believe there is an outside source to this.  The only thing I can put it down to is that she feels she has more fun at dads house because they have a car and can go more places than I can take them and I also think that because I am doing it on my own it is alot harder for me because I still need to get things done as well and at their house there is the 2 of them so there is always one of them giving them attention.  I have voiced this concern to my ex and have decided that I am going to do as much as I can to spend more time with the kids however, he seems to be of the opinion that if she is distressed about being here perhaps they should spend a larger percentage of time at their place. While I dont want my daughter to be unhappy, I dont feel that this is a good option because I think that this is only going to antagonise things by making her feel that she lives with her dad and only visits with me.  I dont want that to be the case as I want her to feel that my home is her home too and I think that doing what he suggested will only serve to drive an even deeper wedge between her and I. ANy ideas or suggestions?????????????  

If she wants to spend more time with her father, and if you are confident that he and his girlfriend are capable of taking good care of her, which it sounds like they do, why not let your daughter have what she wants for a while? Maybe she's just going through a phase where she feels the need for more Daddy time. Letting her have it is, IMO, the greatest way to show her how much you love her, and how important her feelings are to you. It's not about you, or about your ex, it's about the children and what is best for them.
 
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November 29, 2005, 6:38 am PST

Feel Free To Differ, But....

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I beg to differ: thirteen is the right age to start experimenting with dating as long as you don't expect to go clubbing or something like that, but going to eat an ice cream and experimenting with kissing or something like that is perfectly normal at that age. 

  

Starting to date at the age of 16 is in my opinion a bit late because they are not prepared for the experience of people their age who are almost ready to have sex at that age. 

  

I base myself on a sexual outing curve that I observed in myself, my friends, my friends friends and other children. 

between the ages of ten and 12 sex is much debated among each other and with adults, they will laugh about anything which might be considered sexual. They will know more synonims for sex then you but when you really ask what that means you'll just get an answer like "well you know gighel gighel."  Traffic light relationships are quite common (on off on off ect.) 

At the age of thirteen dating begins many boyfriends a lot of holding hands and a bit of (french) kissing. Boys might look at porn out of curiosity and talk about it with their friends 

And at the age of 16.9 in the US and 16.4 in the Netherlands (durex 2004) most will have sex for the first time. 

a bit later sex becomes a topic which is discussed by teens as any other normal topic among their circle of friends 

  

I think it is even essential in their upbringing though that doesn't mean a parent should sit back and relax, but as long as you as a parent knows what your son or daughter is up to it is ok for them to date.  

  

Another important thing is to educate children about sex before they are twelve because they'll learn from their friends otherwise and that is not a good thing. And if you give sex education don't talk in don'ts and well don'ts (rebellious nature of teens remember) but more along the lines of sex is a wonderfull thing when two people love each other, it is important to acknowledge that sex is pleasurable because teens aren't stupid they know there is a multibiljon dollar porn industry and that it isn't because it isn't fun to do. Also if you make it look like an evil thing it will be even more wanted for teens because they reject authority and they know it is pleasurable. 

  

One more note to the 13y old girl: I still think you should listen to your mother since you will need her a lot longer then any of the boys you will date. But you might engage to you're mother in an adult conversation why you can't go out (ADULT conversation because if your mother knows you can handle this subject she might be more willing to let you go. screaming doesn't work for sure.) 

In this area, almost no one dates before 16...and those who do, have parents who aren't involved in what their children do at all. I guess it all just depends on where you live, how you were raised, and what expectations you have for your children.  

  

As for sex education, we began that with my three children at the age of four, with age appropriate answers to questions, and have always kept the lines of communication open through the years. We've never made it look like an "evil thing,' only something that should be shared only with someone you are very committed to, not just given away willy-nilly.  

  

My children are now 19, 15 and 13, and they have never objected to the "no dating till 16" rule....as a matter of fact, the older two have THANKED me for it on several occasions when they were able to use it as an excuse not to go somewhere with someone....LOL. 

 
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December 17, 2005, 3:46 pm PST

Teen Dating

Quote From: thuggie_16

lol u guy at 15 if a child is mature enough u should let her date not 14 thats to young i would say 15 u should start letting ur kids date but make sure u no who the guy is but be open minded about it  

do not judge to fast 16 is a great age to have a relastion ship but to date is 15 dateing and relationships are way deferent things dateing is like just chillin relastionships are much much more me my self i dont like to rush things but i dont like to be judged to fast  

and if ur letting ur 15 year old date make sure shes not over dressed like make her look her age  

amd u have a sex talk aids are way to out of control but as long as u check well ur daughter checks him shell be ok evan nice looking ppl have aids and other sex desises 

Thanks for your advice, but I think that I am in a better place to make the decision on what is best for my children than you are, and we're all quite comfortable with no dating until at least 16. It worked with the oldest and so far it's working with the other two as well.
 
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April 7, 2006, 7:43 am PDT

Teen Dating

Quote From: thuggie_16

lol u guy at 15 if a child is mature enough u should let her date not 14 thats to young i would say 15 u should start letting ur kids date but make sure u no who the guy is but be open minded about it  

do not judge to fast 16 is a great age to have a relastion ship but to date is 15 dateing and relationships are way deferent things dateing is like just chillin relastionships are much much more me my self i dont like to rush things but i dont like to be judged to fast  

and if ur letting ur 15 year old date make sure shes not over dressed like make her look her age  

amd u have a sex talk aids are way to out of control but as long as u check well ur daughter checks him shell be ok evan nice looking ppl have aids and other sex desises 

My child who was 15 is now almost 16 1/2, and she has yet to ask about dating one on one, as she hasn't come across anyone she feels is "right" for her yet. And since she isn't given clothes which are inappropriate, I don't have to worry about her wearing anything like that.  :)
 

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