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December 24, 2008, 8:12 am PST

Merry Christmas!

Crazy busy, but wanted to stop in and let you know I'm thinking of you.

 

Porch Lights ON.

 

Wishing you PEACE.  Q

 
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February 6, 2009, 2:12 pm PST

Being alone...

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My gut feeling is to end my marriage too.  And I ignore it too.  I guess if things were bad more than they were good it would be easier to make that decision.  I don't rely on my husband for too much.  The things that he takes care of for me are by his choice.  He'll fill up my car before I get a chance to.  He changes the oil in my car regularly.  I do ask him to stop at the store for bread and milk on his way home from the gym.  But that's only because I'm too lazy to stop myself.  Plus I vew it as him not behing at home for an extra half hour.   I pay all the bill, balance the check book, clean, cook, laundry, dishes.  In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, my husband relys on ME - alot.   I use to cry more than I do now.  Being able to stand up to my husband has made a big difference there.  Now I only cry when we fight.  I don't cry 'because' we fight, I cry because my feelings are so hurt and he doesn't care.  I cry because I don't want to live like that but I choose to.    I constantly think about how my life would be by myself.  My son is in his third year of college and won't be home much longer.  My daughter is a junior in high school and is planning on  going away to college. The fear of literally being alone is always on my mind.  Again, because I've never been on my own.  For now I just take things one day at a time and hope that some day things will be good.

 

There would have been a time in my life where being alone would have freekin' petrified me.

 

But not anymore.

 

Why?

 

Because I have filled my life up with friends that I adore and pursuits that I love to do. 

 

So as a suggestion, are there things in your life (beside leaving your marriage) that are undone, are there things that you've always wanted to do but haven't, are things that you'd like to do or try but haven't for whatever reason.

 

Start your own to do list and you may find that your fears of aloneness start to go away.

 

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February 6, 2009, 2:22 pm PST

Only you can decide...

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I'd like to share my story because I haven't seen anything on this topic.  While I was undergoing treatment for breast cancer, my husband became addicted to MY painkillers and other cancer related drugs and alcohol.  I am devasted and don't know how to get past this or even if I want to get past this.  It is not the first time he has had addiction problems in our marriage and my guess is it wouldn't be the last if we stay together.  I am not strong enough to leave him, plus I need his medical benefits to finish my treatments.  We have been in marriage counseling as well as each of us seeing individual psychologists and nothing seems to be helping.  He is currently in a 12 step program but I don't feel like he has the first idea of the pain his actions have caused me and our daughter.  He refuses to move out of the house and insists that I will have to leave and start over.  He says I have to let go of the past and points out my shortcomings when we discuss our situation.  He says he wants to make a go of our marriage even though he hasn't loved me for over 10 years.  He wants to be an intact family for our daughter's sake.  I don't have any feelings for him anymore other than hurt and dissappointment and do not want to start over at this point in my treatment and my life.  We do not argue in front of our daughter but also hardly talk to each other in front of our daughter.   Dr. Phil struck a chord with me on today's show by saying not to rush to divorce while you are angry.   He said to make sure you have no feelings left and that way you can tell your children that you did everything possible.   Since I'm still feeling hurt and dissappointed, and we are both in counseling, what should I do?  I'll take any advice.....

When is the right time to leave and when is the time to go.

 

Counseling will definitely help you get to that place.

 

When I left my abuser the first time, I was VERY filled with doubt.  So much so I ended up returning to the marriage even though I knew it wouldn't work.  It didn't

 

When I left the final time, I had a sense of peace about leaving.  I KNEW it was the right thing to do.  I didn't have ANY mixed emotions about it.  BUT that is not to say I wasn't sad.  I was sad.  It was the end of a relationship.  The end and that is like a death (even if it died twice). 

 

My abuser also did NOT make it easy for me either time I left.  He refused to leave so I had no choice. 

 

For anyone who had come face-to-face with death (like you have with cancer), it totally logical to review your life and re-align it.  If you are DONE with the marriage, you will be DONE.  There may be fleeting moments or guilt, or hurt, or angst or sadness, or anger, or whatever, but you will know your path, you will have a sense of peace about it.

 

Until you get to that place, there is STILL plenty to do.

 

You can work on reconnecting with yourself.  You can work on reconnecting with friends who your abuser alienated.  You can work on gaining new friendships.  You can work on your long term plan for living.  You can continue re-assess your life and make plans for change.

 

What matters here is YOUR life.  Everything else will fall into place.

 

Q

 

 
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February 6, 2009, 2:30 pm PST

My dear confused...

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I thought about going back to counseling.  My counselor really helped me get to the point that I'm at with myself and in my marriage now.  Once I got the courage to stand up to my husband I quit going.  

 

No, I do not need someone to punch me to see that abuse is abuse.  But it may be just the thing to get me to be able to finally tell him I'm done with him.  I guess what I really want will never be.  I want my husband to hear me out and let me tell him how  he's made me feel all these years.  Then I want him to feel bad about it and live happily ever after.  I know I'm dreaming, but I also know every marriage has it's problems.  That's why I question myself all the time. Like, since things are somewhat better, should I dismiss the bad times?  Do I over react?  Are my hormones to blame for my intolerance with him?  My girlfriend asked me the other day how things are at home.  I told her they are going well.  Then she asked me if things are going well because I'm tolerating my husband or because they are really going well.  I lied and said they are really going well.  Then I thought about the "tolerating" part.  That's exactly what I'm doing.   I'm tolerating his behavior - because I'm scared.  I have never lived alone. I lived at home until the day I got married.  I've always relied on someone to help me with my decisions. 

 

After each fight, he seems to try to be different but he always goes back to his same old ways.  It's just longer time spans between each fight than it use to be. 

 

On Dr. Phil's show today he said never decide to divorce until you've tried everything you possibly can to make things work.  How do you know when you truly have tried everything? 

 

How deeply entrenced under his control am I?  I really don't know.  He definitely controls me less than he did in the past but he still has some control over me.  Where do you draw the line?  How much control do you over look?  How do I know if I'm expecting too much?    I tell myself over and over what I want to say to him the next time we fight.  But I never have the courage to say it to him.  I think about him not being in my life all the time and how peacful my mind would be.  But then I think of how different my life would be in other ways and it scares me. 

 

What will it take to end the marriage?  One good blow-out with my husband and the courage to tell him I've taken all I could take.

I have read where you have made a big mistake.

 

You lied to your girlfriend.  To me, that tells me that you need more counseling.  And I hope you don't feel bad about going back to a counselor.

 

Healing takes its own time.  It took me about 6-7 counselors and about 12 years to recover and be fully healed.  Everyone is different too. 

 

Lying to a friend, to me, is almost the same thing as lying to yourself.

 

You are keeping the secret of abuse. 

 

You lie to yourself, tellig yourself your marriage is getting better when it isn't.  That's a really bad habit.  I challenge and encourage you to stop doing that.

 

I answered this question: "How do you know when you truly have tried everything?"  when I responded to jazzicat.

 

When you have truly tried everything you will KNOW.  You will know you've had enough, you will know that you are GOING to leave.  You may not have a plan or know when, but your path will be crystal clear.

 

When you are DONE, you are DONE.

 

Until that day/moment/second comes, you MUST keep working on you.

 

If you don't, you will continue to settle, you will stay in that place that keeps you down, the wings will not unfurl and you will not fly.

 

Go back to counseling.

 

Q

 
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February 6, 2009, 2:37 pm PST

New board?

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The new board, gee I don't like it over there!

 

The dark blue is tiring to read posts from....difficult.

 

Not being able to see the post you need to reply and garner thoughts about.

 

And then,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is this the Beta Board?

 

Do you know if this board is going to go away and when?

 

Just curious since I've been out of touch.

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March 5, 2009, 11:54 am PST

A good article.

Here is a good article about how bad marriages (and relationships) REALLY CAN affect your health.

 

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/03/05/bad-marriages-harder-on-womens-health.html

 

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March 5, 2009, 12:45 pm PST

TO Bella Angel --

So many uplifting things you write.  Very nice.

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March 9, 2009, 3:47 pm PDT

Yay

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I am still leaving messages here because I can't get to the new Board because it is not cell phone friendly.

I leave inspirational thoughts for anyone that stops by but I sure wish I could be on the new Board.

I am suppose to get my new computer hooked up by Sunday so I can get on the new Board if I can find some time with my hectic schedule.

HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY!

Bella Angel (((HUGS)))

Yay for the new computer!

 

I just love gadgets.

Q

 

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