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October 6, 2005, 9:26 pm PDT

Yes breastfeeding- no condoms!

There isn't anytihng wrong with a woman breastfeeding in public.  I think most people on here have said that.  But I don't feel a woman should have to go out of her way to cover up either.  That doesn't mean I think she needs to remove her shirt and bra but I don't see why she should have to cover herself and her baby with a blanket either.  IMO its hot and uncomfortable.  I am not going to put down anyone that bottle feeds but I will say that it is medically proven breastfeeding is better so if anything society should go out of its way to make breastfeeding mothers more comfortable.  Why should a breastfeeding woman have to cover her breast while feeding her child and a bottle feeding mother not have to cover her bottle?  God gave us breasts to nurse our children so when using them in that manner there is nothing obscene or otherwise offensive about it. 

  

As far as passing out condoms in school I give that a big NO.  Yes many kids are going to have sex despite what they are told but they can get condoms from their parents if they feel that is appropriate or go to the drug store and buy some.  I mean, despite what they are told many kids are going to use drugs too.  Does that mean schools should start passing out clean needles to help prevent them from getting AIDS? 

 

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October 7, 2005, 11:25 am PDT

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Quote From: garlicfan

I have no problem with giving out free condoms in the schools. Pre-marital sex, or any sexual relationship, is much more than an "idea," it is also a matter of hormones. We tell people when driving a car to wear a seat belt - not because we truely believe they will be in an accident but because we wish them to be prepared in case they are in an accident; just in case they should use poor judgment and go too fast around a curve. It seems to me that even the best intentioned can make a mistake, why should the pentality for that mistake be contracting an STD, some which can be life-threatening, or conceiving a child that is not truely wanted.  Whether a person of any age has pre-marital sex is a matter of moral values coupled with their ability to control their emotions. Not an easy task  even for those of a mature age, whatever that may be.
So should we also hand out needles just in case they want to try shooting up some herion so we can prevent them from getting AIDS?  Should we pass out free baggies of dope to ensure it isn't laced with anything or that they don't get shot in a drug deal gone bad? 
 

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October 7, 2005, 11:32 am PDT

You want to talk about consideration

Quote From: rplover

Why does everyone feel that whatever they want or believe to be right is right? Listen to yourselves. All the pro-breastfeeders-in -public say that it is alright because THEY believe it is right and  because THEY can't understand why someone is offended. Some people are offended! Please allow them that right to be offended. You are probably offended by things also. Do you want someone smoking at your table? If not, do you leave or do you expect that person to stop? People can't always get away from a situation that bothers them. Everyone should be sensitive to others and be as least offensive as possible because we ALL have our issues. Would you let your child urinate or defecate in the middle of a mall if they really had to go? Those of you who wish the USA would be like other countries, would you like it to be ok to spit and urinate in public places? To throw trash anywhere you want? Try to look at all sides and not be so self-centered.
How about considering the FACT that breastfeeding is the BEST form of nutrition for an infant and that they should be fed on demand?  How about consider the rights of the baby?  The baby has the right not to go hungry and to eat his/her meal where other humans it their meals.  What if I find bottle feeding offensive?  Should I ask a bottle feeding mother to cover up?  After all I am trying to teach my children that breastfeeding is normal, natural, and optimal so if they see a baby with a bottle well then that is just sending them the wrong message.  You cannot equate defecating, urinating, smoking and breastfeeding in public.  That is just sick.  The first 3 are health hazards, the latter is not.
 

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October 7, 2005, 11:36 am PDT

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Quote From: boobmama

I personaly feel that a child has every right to eat in public no matter if it's artificial or natural.  I am offended to see bottle-feeders however I would never make them go in the bathroom etc to eat. nor would I ask them to cover up the baby because the bottle offends me. 
I agree with you.  I was just trying to make a point though.
 

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October 7, 2005, 11:38 am PDT

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Quote From: artemis21

I have been involved with working in the free clinic in my area and we went on the needle pick up in which heroin users would give us their needles and we would give them clean ones along with information on getting help. I am not saying that schools do it but a lot of social programs do give out free clean needles and I don't think anyone has started using Heroin because of it. People don't go "oh, I guess I don't have to worry about getting AIDS so let me stick a needle in my arm." It just doesn't happen. So why would someone start having sex simply because condoms are available? And a lot of kids are very intimidated to go to a drug store and buy condoms, especially if they live in a small town where everyone knows them. And condoms are expensive.
Yes I do know that public health programs give out clean needles as well as condoms- leave it to them, not the schools.
 

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October 7, 2005, 12:06 pm PDT

Just wondering location

I have to wonder where all these anti NIP people are from.  I know where I live I have yet to come across anyone saying anything negative to me for NIP.  All I have ever heard is positive actually.  One day I was walking around the mall nursing my newborn and pushing my toddler in the stroller and making sure my preschooler wasn't falling behind.  I recieved many "super mom" comments, but nothing negative.  Yet in the city right next to me they recently banned NIP (and soon revoked it.) 

  

Another member has given me an idea and I hope many others will follow her lead.  Next time I nurse my daughter today I am taking a picture and posting it on here.   

 

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October 7, 2005, 12:42 pm PDT

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Quote From: dolly1955

I don't think that that breastfeeding should be done in public places. It is illegal to show your breast in public, right? I think some females use breastfeeding as an excuse to expose their breasts in public. If they're  so worried about their babies getting the right nutrition, then they already know 'when' it's going to be hungry again. Why would they choose to run to walmart or another public place just when it's time to feed the baby? The baby don't just 'all of a sudden' get hungry when you get to the store.  Does the smell of the store make them hungry?  New borns eat every three to four hours. That's how it's always been. Or even if it's every two hours. The mother knows about when it's going to be time to feed the baby, Like I said.. why run to walmart or any other store, just when it's time for the baby to eat again?  I don't think that it's right for other little kids to have to see some womans breast hanging out,  or for other womens husbands to see them either.  Jealousy can cause rage in some people, ya know?  Someone could end up getting hurt, exposing their breast in public.              Sincerely, Dolly

This is a joke right?  I feed my child just so I can expose myself????  Do you even have children?  breastfeed newborns do NOT eat every 3-4 hours, it is more like every 30 minutes to 2 hours and my babies have never eaten on a schedule.  I feed them the way it is advised- on demand.  For example I know that my daughter's bus gets here at 12:15 yet at 12:13 my baby got hungry so i started feeding her and when the bus pulled up I walked outside and got her with my baby attached to my breast. 

  

I don't know anyone that finds breastfeeding sexual so if your husband is staring at me while I am feeding my baby that is HIS problem.   

 

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October 7, 2005, 12:48 pm PDT

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Quote From: lmrohlik

Dr. Phil, 

  

I have to comment on the breadfeeding issue right now on your show. I agree with both ladies. Yes you have a right to feed your baby when they are hungry but there are ways around breastfeeding in public when your child is hungry. My friend just had a baby and if she has to go in public, she pumps and puts her milk in a bottle. Its called respect for others, especially if you want to give your baby breast milk there are other ways. The one lady is just rude.  

  

So what happens if your baby gets hungry on a road trip and you are the only other person in the car. You gonna get the baby and breastfeed while driving putting everyone else at risk???? because it sure as heck seems she could care less respecting others so why would she start while driving and actually pull over? 

  

If your baby is hungry BOTTLE FEED IT... It's amazing this wonderful thing called a bottle gets around the issue! 

  

Thanks Dr. Phil 

Devoted watcher 

did you know not everyone can afford a pump?  Did you know it isn't reccomended that you pump or give a bottle in the first 4 weeks?  Did you know some babies will just not take a bottle?  Did you know that the WHO lists breastfeeding as the best source of nutrition for a child uner 24 months whereas feeding expressed milk is only number 2? 

  

Your breastfeeding and driving comment is well... what would you do if your bottle fed baby needed to be fed while you were driving and no one else was in the car?  That is a matter of safety.  It will not kill your baby to wait 5 minutes to get to your destination while driving and feeding a baby would be extremely stupid and dangerous.  And yes, on car trips I have pulled over to feed my baby.   

 

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October 7, 2005, 12:50 pm PDT

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Quote From: badtrip

Yes, I agree. By the way, where do you go on the website to add a pic?
you click on "profile" and there will be an option to edit your pic.  All of us breastfeeding moms should do it!
 

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October 7, 2005, 12:55 pm PDT

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Quote From: dutch727

I do agree that women breatfeed...BUT...most of us have a hard time dealing with men and their constant pre-occupation to our bodies an doing that in public or around people feeds mens thoughts and makes women uncomfortable in many differant ways. We don't want to see them,if we do then we are not hetrosexual.
so now I am homosexual because I think a woman nursing her child is a beautiful thing?  I guess that also made me an insestious homosexual when I was looking at my sister's vagina as she gave birth to her son AND took pictures and thought it was a beautiful moment. And
 

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