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April 17, 2006, 10:01 am PDT

It's about time....

I am so glad that Dr.Phil is tackling this difficult topic. Finally, a voice for the many victims/survivors of NPD. I belong to several NPD forums and the actual damage and chaos these N's create is amost unbelievable. The horror stories I have heard and been witness to is shocking. I'm looking forward to watching this show and hoping for some honest feedback from Dr. Phil.

 
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April 18, 2006, 6:55 am PDT

Only you can affect change in your life...

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i abserlotly hate my step father & always take it out on my younger brother to get my mothers attention. I dont like being this way but its not what i chose for myself i am just like that i kinda abuse my brother & smack him & sometimes i fear i will one day hurt him badly. He makes me angry & says things to me then i get real mad & really take it out on him. i also sometimes find that i also demand attention with the wrong people like people i go out with & stuff. I need to stop before i actually get myself killed.

You obviously see your behavior as wrong and this can be a positive thing.

 Is there some reason that you hate your step father? Has he done something to you? Or is it that you feel that he takes up your mother's time and you feel left out? It is normal to feel jealousy when one of your parents re-marries. There is an adjustment period and children will sometimes act out. However, this is not justification for willing "attempting" to hurt your own brother. That is totally inappropriate and you should STOP immediately. You could seriously injure him and you could end up in a juvenile facility. Think of the emotional damage you're doing to him and yourself.

 

I think you should discuss these things with your mother. Open up to her about how you're feeling. If you can't do it one on one, try writing her an honest letter. If this isn't an option for you, seek help from a guidance counselor, school psychologist, or even a trusted friends parent. Let someone help you to help yourself.

 

As far as demanding attention from the wrong people... you know and understand that you are doing this.... that is another positive. Are you seeking attention from these people because you're not getting your needs met at home? Or do you just feel the need for excessive attention, admiration, adoration, etc... but, don't really care where you get it? Another reason to talk to a trusted adult.

 

Children who are searching for attention will do almost anything to get it. Whether that be positive or negative. It seems to me, that the negative isn't working out for you so well. Why not try to put a positive spin on your situation? You seem willing to admit that you need help. Believe it or not, that is a step in the right direction. Please be kind to yourself. Give yourself some credit for admitting to your behavior. Trust that you mother wants you to be a happy, healthy, productive person. Allow yourself to become all of those things. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

 

Take care and God bless.

 
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April 18, 2006, 7:46 pm PDT

Couldn't have said it better myself...

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I have never message boarded anything myself...but I had to reply to this.  NPD is something that affects so many more people than we realize.  It's effects on us can deeply scar us.  I have chosen to not be the victim anymore.  I know first hand what these people can do to our lives, and it's very sad that they exist.  How can they even be called human?  I am excited to hear that this subject is being addressed because I think that many people will be shocked to see that the beast they are living with is actually not imagined...it is reality.  And YES they really DID say that!  Understanding the disorder is the first step to getting past the pain that they have caused in our lives.  With each and every word comes shock and amazement.  Did they really just have the nerve to say that?  or do that?  It's so hard to believe that someone could actually be that way and we try to believe in the overall goodness of people.  They are very attention seeking and manipulative.  I will no longer associate myself with such people.  I'm happy to hear that someone is finally educating the public on this horrible personality disorder!  Very looking forward to watching the show...thanks.

Very well said! All that's left.... is to add a few links, lol.  

  

narcissism 101 Index  

  

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) : How to Recognize a Narcissist  

  

What Makes Narcissists Tick  

  

Just some helpful information for anyone interested.  

  

For people who think they need additional support.... there are many great NPD forums, full of caring, supportive, and understanding individuals. All you need to do is google Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  

  

Take care and God bless.  

  

  

 
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April 18, 2006, 9:56 pm PDT

OK, I guess no links allowed....

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Very well said! All that's left.... is to add a few links, lol.  

  

narcissism 101 Index  

  

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) : How to Recognize a Narcissist  

  

What Makes Narcissists Tick  

  

Just some helpful information for anyone interested.  

  

For people who think they need additional support.... there are many great NPD forums, full of caring, supportive, and understanding individuals. All you need to do is google Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  

  

Take care and God bless.  

  

  

My apologies to everyone. The links I added have obviously been disabled for whatever reason. I will try to find a way to include them in a different way as soon as I figure out how, lol. Sorry again!  

   

Take care!  

 
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April 18, 2006, 10:34 pm PDT

One more time, lol...

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My apologies to everyone. The links I added have obviously been disabled for whatever reason. I will try to find a way to include them in a different way as soon as I figure out how, lol. Sorry again!  

   

Take care!  

I am attempting to add these links again, lol.  Anyone interested will need to copy and paste them into their browser. Hope this works.... wish me luck, lol.  

   

http://www.operationdoubles.com/narc/  

   

http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/index.html  

   

http://narcissism101.com/Narcissism2.html   I was going to add a 4th... maybe next time around.   Take care.
 
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April 19, 2006, 2:59 pm PDT

You'll have to copy and paste....

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Sorry, it didn't work.  Maybe they're not allowing anyone to post links anymore.  I know that when I tried to post links to websites in my author's notes on fanfiction.net, never mind the links not working, they didn't even show up on the internet page.  And THEY had no qualms about posting links either, according to the Terms of Service, they just said it wasn't their responsiblilty if the links didn't work. 

  

Maybe , but I don't know.  I think fanfiction.net was secretly cracking down on posting web links and didn't bother to tell us.  Maybe it's that way here, too. 

Hi there,  

   

I was told I had to type in the URL's. No "active" links allowed. I did just that in my last post, so if you'll copy and paste the individual URL's... it should work for you. Worked for my neighbor this morning. I double checked myself as well.  

   

How to's...  

   

Point your mouse in front of the first word and double click..... the word should become highlighted.  

   

Now, point your mouse at the end of the link (last letter) press and hold your shift key while you click once.... the entire URL should be highlighted now.  

   

Right click on the highlighted link, (you should see a box pop up) scroll to copy and click once.... now, point your mouse over your browser window and right click, (you should see another box) scroll to paste... click. Finally, click GO.  

   

 Once the web page comes up, you can put it in your favorites for safe keeping.  

   

I hope this helps. If not, let me know and maybe I can find another alternative.   

   

Take care and God bless.  

   

   

 
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April 19, 2006, 8:49 pm PDT

04/20 "I Love Myself!"

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Anyone can serach MSN's support groups for NPD.   

There are several good boards full of info.  

One is NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER  

Another is N-Partners  

   

Sand  

Hi Sand, 

  

I wanted to add the links to the groups as well but, wasn't sure it would be allowed. Glad to see you here. You have a lot of information and experience to share with everyone here about this topic.  

  

Take care, 

Btrfly 

 
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April 19, 2006, 9:14 pm PDT

Hello. Well.......

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Has NO ONE noticed what the step-mother has said about her stepdaughter????????????? Do you think this MIGHT have something to do with her behavior?????

I haven't seen the show in it's entirety as of yet. Are you talking about the statement, "If she died tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear"? That does sound extremely cold, doesn't it? That said, we really have no way of knowing if those statements have something to do with the step daughter's behavior or if the step daughters behavior elicits those kinds of statements. I'm not going to judge anything at this point because I don't have all the facts. We may not have them all after the show either. Sadly, it is only a 1 hour program and that barely seems enough time for anyone to figure it all out.   

  

What I will say is this.... NPD is a serious and pervasive disorder that leaves many victims in it's wake. Narcissists come from all walks of life. All races, sexes, socio-economic backgrounds, etc... It is insidious in the fact that N's are able to fool even the best psychiatrists. Victims often times are left homeless, penniless, emotionally wrecked, and mentally fractured. Yet, the N goes about their life without a care for the damage they cause. They are incapable of empathy and are pathological liars by nature. They remain clam and collected while the victims lay crushed beneath the weight of the insanity. It's almost incomprehensible if you haven't lived it or been witness to it. I'm happy to see any show air that brings this disorder out into the open. This is my main reason for being here.   

  

Take care and God bless.  

 
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September 4, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

Nature versus Nurture...

I don't think there are any easy answers when it comes to topics like this. Many factors should be addressed. Genetics, environment, physiological, and yes.... poor parenting skills. All or any combination of these, can contribute to what we saw on the show today. I wish all the best to both families and hope things settle down for them.

 
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September 4, 2007, 3:43 pm PDT

helpful link....

Hope this helps...

 

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